Re: [Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

2007-04-03 Thread Gary Ruben
I have to agree with Giorgio in general. Unfortunately, the threading support required by matplotlib isn't implemented in pyScripter, which means that it's a nice environment until you want to do some plotting, when it becomes a bit flaky. I haven't checked eclipse's behaviour with matplotlib.

Re: [Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

2007-04-03 Thread Tim Hirzel
I've had similar problems running wxPython code under certain IDEs where things can go very poorly (dramatic crashing, or it just wont execute). At least with the wx or wxagg backends, I have no trouble running matplotlib demos such as ellipse_demo.py from inside eclipse+pydev. -tim Gary

Re: [Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

2007-04-02 Thread Giorgio Luciano
Thank for all the reply. I will sure have a look at the video that Oliver suggest and I also downloaded Eclipse. I'm happy that someone also shared my problems in teaching python. I'm aware that python/scipy were not started as a clone matlab (well matlibplot was started as something similar ;)

Re: [Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

2007-04-02 Thread Mark Bakker
Dear List - Thanks for the discussion on the issue of the real strength of the Python/matplotlib/numpy/scipy combo. I use Python for both development and teaching, but my biggest question concerned teaching. When I teach, I need something easy and powerful, but also something that is easy to

Re: [Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

2007-04-02 Thread massimo sandal
Giorgio Luciano ha scritto: I'm aware that python/scipy were not started as a clone matlab (well matlibplot was started as something similar ;) Yes, matplotlib AFAIK wanted (and probably wants) to be something similar, and it's bad, because mpl is too good in itself to be forced to be just

Re: [Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

2007-03-30 Thread Mark Bakker
command. 3. Make an who option. On the bright side, I get quite a few people converted that don't want to go back anymore Mark Message: 7 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 16:58:42 +0200 From: Giorgio Luciano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

Re: [Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

2007-03-30 Thread Lou Pecora
Have you looked at iPython? I think it's a great way to go. Check it out. --- Mark Bakker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgio - Thanks for starting this discussion and sorry for the late reply. Use of Python with matplotlib in the classroom and by students in general is a major objective

Re: [Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

2007-03-30 Thread Mark Bakker
I always thought ipython didn't come with a good editor. Am I mistaken? Mark On 3/30/07, Lou Pecora [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you looked at iPython? I think it's a great way to go. Check it out. --- Mark Bakker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgio - Thanks for starting this discussion

Re: [Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

2007-03-30 Thread Lou Pecora
--- Mark Bakker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always thought ipython didn't come with a good editor. Am I mistaken? Mark Oh, I see. You probably want an development envirnoment. Sorry. IPython is great for interactively running code, but not too great for any editing. I do my editing in a

Re: [Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

2007-03-30 Thread oliver . tomic
Mark, you can set ipython (in the ipythonrc.ini) to start up the editor of your choice when you type edit in the ipython-shell. Check out this video at ShowMeDo, that shows a lot of the features of ipython: http://showmedo.com/videos/video?name=DownloadingIPythonForMSWindowsfromSeriesID=2

Re: [Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

2007-03-30 Thread George Nurser
You can run ipython _from_ emacs. Needs a bit of messing about with your .emacs, but once you've set it up, it works very well. Object introspection and the debugger are very nice; you can execute code fragments etc. Not quite a 'development environment', but a long way towards one. It explains

Re: [Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

2007-03-30 Thread massimo sandal
Not quite a 'development environment', but a long way towards one. I always thought that the focus of matplotlib towards matlab-like interactivity is fundamentally flawed. Matlab-like interactivity is damn good when it is needed, but for that purpose in the free world there are already the

Re: [Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

2007-03-30 Thread Fernando Perez
On 3/30/07, Mark Bakker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always thought ipython didn't come with a good editor. Am I mistaken? You are not mistaken, and this is by design: ipython is not an IDE, it's the interactive component of a python workflow. As others have mentioned (thanks to all, btw), it

Re: [Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

2007-03-30 Thread Tim Hirzel
As for a good IDE. I really like eclipse with pydev. For easy student/beginner setup, easyclipse has a nice python eclipse distribution http://www.easyeclipse.org/site/distributions/index.html I think I've tried near every python IDE setup out there over the last couple years, and this one

[Matplotlib-users] matlab, idle, interactivity and teaching

2007-03-28 Thread Giorgio Luciano
Hello to all, I've thread that apperead some time ago on this list about matlab and teaching. I've discovered python recently and translated part of the routine I use in python (www.chemometrics.it). Some of my collegue asked me if I could show them how to use python. For matlab user I guess