Re: [MeeGo-dev] Projected timelines for full openness

2010-04-21 Thread An Yang
在 2010-04-22四的 13:41 +0800,An Yang写道: > 在 2010-04-21三的 21:09 -0700,Greg KH写道: > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:58:41AM +0800, An Yang wrote: > > > > > yes, I'm one of them-:) > > > > > But more stable more user, it's a good rule of any success products, > > > > > no > > > > > mater software or

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Projected timelines for full openness

2010-04-21 Thread An Yang
在 2010-04-21三的 21:09 -0700,Greg KH写道: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:58:41AM +0800, An Yang wrote: > > > > yes, I'm one of them-:) > > > > But more stable more user, it's a good rule of any success products, no > > > > mater software or hardware, even none IT related products. > > > > > > Then unde

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Moblin Dev] Video test on moblin-2.1-pr-final-ivi-201002090924.img

2010-04-21 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 08:52:37PM -0700, Arthur Hsiao wrote: > Greg, thanks for your time reading my emails. The platform was > running with XP just fine. The vendor does not have any Linux > support. Then odds are, you are on your own to get this to work, so sorry. The hardware platform you a

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Projected timelines for full openness

2010-04-21 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:58:41AM +0800, An Yang wrote: > > > yes, I'm one of them-:) > > > But more stable more user, it's a good rule of any success products, no > > > mater software or hardware, even none IT related products. > > > > Then under that rule, Linux would not be a success. I think

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Projected timelines for full openness

2010-04-21 Thread An Yang
在 2010-04-22四的 05:43 +0200,ronan.maclave...@nokia.com写道: > Hi, > > >I have two questions: > >Meego 1.0 is a company works in a close develop env, will it be opened in > >the future? > >"open" should means not only open the source code and rpm packages, but the > >develop process. > > Meego i

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Projected timelines for full openness

2010-04-21 Thread An Yang
在 2010-04-21三的 20:40 -0700,Greg KH写道: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:30:35AM +0800, An Yang wrote: > > I just mentioned about commercial customers, who want use meego for a > > very long term, I do not think they will or could reinstall or upgrade > > the OS in the phone or TV or car every 6 month.

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Moblin Dev] Video test on moblin-2.1-pr-final-ivi-201002090924.img

2010-04-21 Thread Arthur Hsiao
Greg, thanks for your time reading my emails. The platform was running with XP just fine. The vendor does not have any Linux support. For Moblin, I have encountered more problems. However, I have learned from the forums here, so I hope anyone who ever tried can share his/her experience with me

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Projected timelines for full openness

2010-04-21 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:30:35AM +0800, An Yang wrote: > I just mentioned about commercial customers, who want use meego for a > very long term, I do not think they will or could reinstall or upgrade > the OS in the phone or TV or car every 6 month. I'm sure that every company installing MeeGo i

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Projected timelines for full openness

2010-04-21 Thread ronan.maclaverty
Hi, >I have two questions: >Meego 1.0 is a company works in a close develop env, will it be opened in the >future? >"open" should means not only open the source code and rpm packages, but the >develop process. Meego is a project hosted by the Linux Foundation, and while companies can use it

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Projected timelines for full openness

2010-04-21 Thread An Yang
Hi, 在 2010-04-21三的 20:09 -0700,Greg KH写道: > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:41:09AM +0800, An Yang wrote: > > ??? 2010-04-21?? 22:30 -0400???Robinson Tryon? > > > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:17 PM, An Yang wrote: > > > > > > > > About 6 month release cycle, will meego release a TLS ed

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Projected timelines for full openness

2010-04-21 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:41:09AM +0800, An Yang wrote: > ??? 2010-04-21?? 22:30 -0400???Robinson Tryon? > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:17 PM, An Yang wrote: > > > > > > About 6 month release cycle, will meego release a TLS edtion? > > > > > > > Do you mean LTS, as in "Long Term S

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Projected timelines for full openness

2010-04-21 Thread An Yang
在 2010-04-21三的 22:30 -0400,Robinson Tryon写道: > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:17 PM, An Yang wrote: > > > > About 6 month release cycle, will meego release a TLS edtion? > > > > Do you mean LTS, as in "Long Term Support" ? Sorry spell mistake, yes Long Term Support, thanks Robinson-:) it's importan

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Projected timelines for full openness

2010-04-21 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:17 PM, An Yang wrote: > > About 6 month release cycle, will meego release a TLS edtion? > Do you mean LTS, as in "Long Term Support" ? ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@meego.com http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Projected timelines for full openness

2010-04-21 Thread An Yang
Hi Ronan, I have tow questions: Meego 1.0 is a company works in a close develop env, will it be opened in the future? "open" should means not only open the source code and rpm packages, but the develop process. About 6 month release cycle, will meego release a TLS edtion? 在 2010-04-22四的 01:26

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH] Fix ARM N900 build

2010-04-21 Thread An Yang
在 2010-04-21三的 08:04 -0700,Greg KH写道: > As someone who has maintained kernels with a few dozen config files > for > a long time, for different arches and flavors, no, this seems much > easier to keep everything in sync properly. > > Let's try it and see, individual config files are very hard to e

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Moblin Dev] Video test on moblin-2.1-pr-final-ivi-201002090924.img

2010-04-21 Thread Greg KH
A: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post Q: Were do I find info about this thing called top-posting? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? http://daringfireball.n

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Moblin Dev] Video test on moblin-2.1-pr-final-ivi-201002090924.img

2010-04-21 Thread Arthur Hsiao
Oh, I guess I don't make myself clear. I try both skype and cheese, and none work for me. I use ivi image downloaded from moblin.org, so ... contact Intel? There must have been something that I missed because I googled it, and cheese is supposed to work at least. Arthur On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Moblin Dev] Video test on moblin-2.1-pr-final-ivi-201002090924.img

2010-04-21 Thread Greg KH
A: No. Q: Should I include quotations after my reply? http://daringfireball.net/2007/07/on_top On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 04:57:07PM -0700, Arthur Hsiao wrote: > No, I guess not. Then try it out. > I saw a garbled square on the down right corner. In skype or cheese? > Something I miss? Ask the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Moblin Dev] Video test on moblin-2.1-pr-final-ivi-201002090924.img

2010-04-21 Thread Arthur Hsiao
No, I guess not. I saw a garbled square on the down right corner. Something I miss? Thanks Arthur On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Greg KH wrote: > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 04:27:05PM -0700, Arthur Hsiao wrote: >> Can someone show me how to test the webcam on Menlow for moblin 2.1 >> ivi?  I ins

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Moblin Dev] Video test on moblin-2.1-pr-final-ivi-201002090924.img

2010-04-21 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 04:27:05PM -0700, Arthur Hsiao wrote: > Can someone show me how to test the webcam on Menlow for moblin 2.1 > ivi? I installed Skype, but the usb cam on /dev/video0 does not show > anything... > > Anyone ran meego usb image on Menlow successfully? Did you try using cheese

[MeeGo-dev] Video test on moblin-2.1-pr-final-ivi-201002090924.img

2010-04-21 Thread Arthur Hsiao
Can someone show me how to test the webcam on Menlow for moblin 2.1 ivi? I installed Skype, but the usb cam on /dev/video0 does not show anything... Anyone ran meego usb image on Menlow successfully? Thanks Arthur ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@m

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Projected timelines for full openness

2010-04-21 Thread ronan.maclaverty
> To follow up on the topic of openness and transparency from the TSG > meeting earlier today, I'd like to ask for some details and timelines > for when this is planned to be achieved. > > MeeGo 1.0 is only a matter of weeks away. The time for the community > having any useful design impact on thi

[MeeGo-dev] Projected timelines for full openness

2010-04-21 Thread Glen Gray
To follow up on the topic of openness and transparency from the TSG meeting earlier today, I'd like to ask for some details and timelines for when this is planned to be achieved. MeeGo 1.0 is only a matter of weeks away. The time for the community having any useful design impact on this release

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Repository Working Group - next steps

2010-04-21 Thread David Greaves
Joy Andrews wrote: > Call them what they are! Applications, Music, Movies...a la iTunes. I > think that Apple, as the largest store of it’s kind, has somewhat set > the standards in naming for users. > > Sorry if I’m misunderstanding - just jumping into the conversation. Somewhat :) http://lis

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Repository Working Group - next steps

2010-04-21 Thread Joy Andrews
Call them what they are! Applications, Music, Movies...a la iTunes. I think that Apple, as the largest store of it's kind, has somewhat set the standards in naming for users. Sorry if I'm misunderstanding - just jumping into the conversation. Joy Joy Andrews Experience Director Office +1 (

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Repository Working Group - next steps

2010-04-21 Thread Shaver, Michael R
> "quim@nokia.com" wrote: > > How to call this? Names carried from maemo.org or moblin.org would be > "Downloads", "Extras" or "Garage". "Apps", "Addons", "Catalog" are also used > in similar contexts. None of them is perfectly accurate but calling it > "Universe/Multiverse" is probably not t

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH] Fix ARM N900 build

2010-04-21 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 04:22:47PM +0300, Roger Quadros wrote: > ext Arjan van de Ven wrote: >> On 4/21/2010 0:22, Roger Quadros wrote: >>> ext Arjan van de Ven wrote: > +n900: kernel.spec.in series makespec.pl > + @touch N900; > + @perl makespec.pl< kernel.spec.in> kernel-n900.spec ; >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH] Fix ARM N900 build

2010-04-21 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 4/21/2010 6:22, Roger Quadros wrote: Isn't it simpler to have one config file per variant than doing this automagical merging with 3 config files? absolutely not. not only do you then need to edit 15 files each time a new config option comes into life, it becomes totally impossible to keep

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH] Fix ARM N900 build

2010-04-21 Thread Roger Quadros
ext Arjan van de Ven wrote: On 4/21/2010 0:22, Roger Quadros wrote: ext Arjan van de Ven wrote: +n900: kernel.spec.in series makespec.pl + @touch N900; + @perl makespec.pl< kernel.spec.in> kernel-n900.spec ; why make a separate spec like this? sounds completely unneeded to me for arm it wi

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 00/10] Patches for N900

2010-04-21 Thread Roger Quadros
Hi Yong, ext Wang, Yong Y wrote: From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [mailto:meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] On Behalf Of Roger Quadros Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:12 PM To: ar...@linux.intel.com Cc: meego-dev@meego.com Subject: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 00/10] Patches for N900 Hi, This is a patchse

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 00/10] Patches for N900

2010-04-21 Thread Wang, Yong Y
> From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com > [mailto:meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] On Behalf Of Roger Quadros > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:12 PM > To: ar...@linux.intel.com > Cc: meego-dev@meego.com > Subject: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 00/10] Patches for N900 > > Hi, > > This is a patchset to get Display

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH] Fix ARM N900 build

2010-04-21 Thread harri.hakulinen
On 4/21/2010 13:50, Arjan van de Ven wrote >On 4/21/2010 0:22, Roger Quadros wrote: >> ext Arjan van de Ven wrote: >> Currently config-generic is more x86 specific it even has ARCH=x86. >> so currently config-generic is broken. > >so fix it ? But what you mention is not broken. It's by design. >con

Re: [MeeGo-dev] NFC

2010-04-21 Thread kalle.jokiniemi
Hello, > -Original Message- > From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [mailto:meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] On > Behalf Of ext Michael Zanetti > Sent: 21. huhtikuuta 2010 12:36 > To: meego-dev@meego.com > Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] NFC > > Hi, > > On Tuesday 20 April 2010 13:42:41 Mr. Todorov To

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 1/10] OMAP: DSS2: Add Kconfig option for DPI display type

2010-04-21 Thread Roger Quadros
ext Arjan van de Ven wrote: On 4/21/2010 1:12, Roger Quadros wrote: From: Roger Quadros Patch-mainline: 2.6.35? Git-repo: http://www.gitorious.org/linux-omap-dss2/linux/commit/36b33efe80eb07e3447107c2bdba3c674c10a41a This allows us to disable DPI on systems that do not have it this does not

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 1/10] OMAP: DSS2: Add Kconfig option for DPI display type

2010-04-21 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 4/21/2010 1:12, Roger Quadros wrote: From: Roger Quadros Patch-mainline: 2.6.35? Git-repo: http://www.gitorious.org/linux-omap-dss2/linux/commit/36b33efe80eb07e3447107c2bdba3c674c10a41a This allows us to disable DPI on systems that do not have it this does not look like a very pretty patc

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH] Fix ARM N900 build

2010-04-21 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 4/21/2010 0:22, Roger Quadros wrote: ext Arjan van de Ven wrote: +n900: kernel.spec.in series makespec.pl + @touch N900; + @perl makespec.pl< kernel.spec.in> kernel-n900.spec ; why make a separate spec like this? sounds completely unneeded to me for arm it will only build the n900 anywa

Re: [MeeGo-dev] NFC

2010-04-21 Thread Michael Zanetti
Hi, On Tuesday 20 April 2010 13:42:41 Mr. Todorov Todor wrote: > Hi guys, > I am interested in what is the state of NFC, (near field > communication) on MeeGo. > Will there be protocol stack included, or will there be some high > level APIs exposed to the app developers? A Colleague of mine, wor

[MeeGo-dev] State of current trunk

2010-04-21 Thread Sivan Greenberg
Hi all, So what have we got so far? Is Meego half-decent at least to start everyday testing with at least calls and internet ? (excluding video and audio playing and ipod like functionality like in the N900) Sivan ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev

[MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 6/10] OMAP: RX51: Add Touch Controller in SPI board info

2010-04-21 Thread Roger Quadros
From: Roger Quadros Patch-mainline: 2.6.35? Git-repo: http://www.gitorious.org/linux-omap-dss2/linux/commit/a77ee8b332b62f3b10ffc15b27b889adf50cd013 The Touch controller and LCD Panel share the same SPI bus 1. So, we need to define the touch controller in the SPI board info else, the SPI bus wi

[MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 5/10] OMAP: RX51: Add "vdds_sdi" supply voltage for SDI

2010-04-21 Thread Roger Quadros
From: Roger Quadros Patch-mainline: 2.6.35? Git-repo: http://www.gitorious.org/linux-omap-dss2/linux/commit/659550d7f54a2620ba2cc1a98273793ce97de230 The SDI Display subsystem needs access to the vdds_sdi supply regulator. This is TWL4030's VAUX1 supply on RX-51. Signed-off-by: Roger Quadros -

[MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 3/10] OMAP: DSS2: Add ACX565AKM Panel Driver

2010-04-21 Thread Roger Quadros
From: Roger Quadros Patch-mainline: 2.6.35? Git-repo: http://www.gitorious.org/linux-omap-dss2/linux/commit/4f2308f3be2fe631412ea85a80c91414c3bfe730 This is the panel used on Nokia N900 Signed-off-by: Roger Quadros --- drivers/video/omap2/displays/Kconfig |6 + drivers/video/om

[MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 4/10] OMAP: RX51: Add LCD Panel support

2010-04-21 Thread Roger Quadros
From: Roger Quadros Patch-mainline: 2.6.35? Git-repo: http://www.gitorious.org/linux-omap-dss2/linux/commit/c296146d9fe00624cbb34da56c6b2927ef9bbbad Adds basic support for LCD Panel on Nokia N900 Signed-off-by: Roger Quadros --- arch/arm/mach-omap2/Makefile |1 + arch/arm

[MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 2/10] OMAP: DSS2: Use vdds_sdi regulator supply in SDI

2010-04-21 Thread Roger Quadros
From: Roger Quadros Patch-mainline: 2.6.35? Git-repo: http://www.gitorious.org/linux-omap-dss2/linux/commit/1d5c6663d92b37539617d833e6049e5dd21751c4 This patch enables the use of vdds_sdi regulator in SDI subsystem. We can disable the vdds_sdi voltage when not in use to save power. Signed-off-

[MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 1/10] OMAP: DSS2: Add Kconfig option for DPI display type

2010-04-21 Thread Roger Quadros
From: Roger Quadros Patch-mainline: 2.6.35? Git-repo: http://www.gitorious.org/linux-omap-dss2/linux/commit/36b33efe80eb07e3447107c2bdba3c674c10a41a This allows us to disable DPI on systems that do not have it Signed-off-by: Roger Quadros Signed-off-by: Tomi Valkeinen --- drivers/video/omap

[MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 00/10] Patches for N900

2010-04-21 Thread Roger Quadros
Hi, This is a patchset to get Display, Touchscreen and USB working on the N900 platlform. All patches have been reviewed in mailing lists and are already in some maintainers tree. Appropriate references are provided in each patch. The only new Kconfig option that will affect existing x86 platfor

[MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 8/10] omap: rx-51: enable tsc2005

2010-04-21 Thread Roger Quadros
From: Aaro Koskinen Patch-mainline: 2.6.35 Discussions: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-o...@vger.kernel.org/msg26749.html Enable TSC2005 touchscreen driver on the RX-51 board. Signed-off-by: Aaro Koskinen --- arch/arm/configs/rx51_defconfig |1 arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-

[MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 10/10] USB: otg: add notifier support

2010-04-21 Thread Roger Quadros
From: Felipe Balbi Patch-mainline: 2.6.34 Git-commit: e9a20171dfa0aa134d2211126d1310f2daea52cf The notifier will be used to communicate usb events to other drivers like the charger chip. This can be used as source of information to kick usb charger detection as described by the USB Battery Char

[MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 9/10] USB: gadget: introduce g_nokia gadget driver

2010-04-21 Thread Roger Quadros
From: Felipe Balbi Patch-mainline: 2.6.34 Git-commit: f358f5b40af67caf28b627889d007294614170b2 g_nokia is the gadget driver implementing WMCDC Wireless Handset Control Model for the N900 device. Signed-off-by: Felipe Balbi Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman --- drivers/usb/gadget/Kconfig |

[MeeGo-dev] [PATCH 7/10] input: touchscreen: introduce tsc2005 driver

2010-04-21 Thread Roger Quadros
From: Lauri Leukkunen Patch-mainline: 2.6.35? Discussions: http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-o...@vger.kernel.org/msg26748.html Introduce a driver for the Texas Instruments TSC2005 touchscreen controller (http://focus.ti.com/docs/prod/folders/print/tsc2005.html). The patch is based on a driver

Re: [MeeGo-dev] How to discover screen size from Mx?

2010-04-21 Thread Tomas Frydrych
Hi, On 20/04/10 17:35, Elliot Smith wrote: > How would I go about finding out the size of the current screen from an > Mx application (so I can use Mx.Window.set_small_screen(false) if on a > large monitor etc.)? I think that function is there primarily for use by MxApplication which takes care o

Re: [MeeGo-dev] VT_GETMODE failed Function not implemented

2010-04-21 Thread Paler . tw
See, it work now. I could use the xterm to launch a window. The new window seems to be on the shell mode. Is there any way I could launch a GUI window? 在 2010/4/21下午1:11,Arjan van de Ven 寫道: On 4/20/2010 18:18, paler...@gmail.com wrote: I use the Xorg. Is it a wrong command? yes p

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH] Fix ARM N900 build

2010-04-21 Thread Roger Quadros
ext Arjan van de Ven wrote: +n900: kernel.spec.in series makespec.pl + @touch N900; + @perl makespec.pl< kernel.spec.in> kernel-n900.spec ; why make a separate spec like this? sounds completely unneeded to me for arm it will only build the n900 anyway right now In future we