[MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-22 Thread Jarkko Moilanen
Hi, Note! This message is NOT directly about MeeGo platform or MeeGo app development. Dawn, Dave, Henri, Randall and others have done a great job at creating tools to gather information about and for the community[1]. Current tools are excellent for various purposes such as activity mon

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-23 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:18:21 +0200 Jarkko Moilanen wrote: > Hi, > > Note! This message is NOT directly about MeeGo platform or MeeGo app > development. > > Dawn, Dave, Henri, Randall and others have done a great job at > creating tools to gather information about and for the community[1].

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-23 Thread Roman Gezikov
Exactly. That is what forced me just to close the browser. On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 09:18:21 +0200 > Jarkko Moilanen wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Note! This message is NOT directly about MeeGo platform or MeeGo app > > development. > > > > Dawn, Dave

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-29 Thread Auke Kok
On 11/22/10 23:18, Jarkko Moilanen wrote: Hi, Note! This message is NOT directly about MeeGo platform or MeeGo app development. Dawn, Dave, Henri, Randall and others have done a great job at creating tools to gather information about and for the community[1]. Current tools are excellent for var

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-29 Thread Jarkko Moilanen
Quoting Auke Kok : On 11/22/10 23:18, Jarkko Moilanen wrote: Hi, Note! This message is NOT directly about MeeGo platform or MeeGo app development. Dawn, Dave, Henri, Randall and others have done a great job at creating tools to gather information about and for the community[1]. Current tools

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-29 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
Hi Auke, On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Auke Kok wrote: Since you clearly state your survey is "Academic", I assume it directly benefits you as a person, providing you with research data. As such, this invitation is a direct violation of list policies, and as such not allowed use of this or any MeeGo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-29 Thread Auke Kok
On 11/29/10 14:10, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: Hi Auke, On Mon, 29 Nov 2010, Auke Kok wrote: Since you clearly state your survey is "Academic", I assume it directly benefits you as a person, providing you with research data. As such, this invitation is a direct violation of list policies,

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-29 Thread Julien Fourgeaud
Dear all, On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Auke Kok wrote: > > > In general, any form of "spam" or "advertisement" is outside regular > mailing list policy. Since the post discussed is an invitation to a > non-MeeGo survey, it's an advertisement. > > I can't see spam/advertisement rules in the l

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-29 Thread Auke Kok
On 11/29/10 14:47, Julien Fourgeaud wrote: Dear all, On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Auke Kokmailto:auke-jan.h@intel.com>> wrote: In general, any form of "spam" or "advertisement" is outside regular mailing list policy. Since the post discussed is an invitation to a non-MeeGo survey, i

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-29 Thread harri.hakulinen
Hello all, [Disclaimer: I don't know Jarkko Moilanen or hardly anyone from uta.fi, but I do know many people from tut.fi ] >From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] on behalf of >ext Julien Fourgeaud [jul...@lecatalyst.com] >Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:47 AM > >On

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-30 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Auke Kok wrote: > On 11/22/10 23:18, Jarkko Moilanen wrote: >> Note! This message is NOT directly about MeeGo platform or MeeGo app >> development. > Did you get express permission from the MeeGo community council (Dawn, > Quim, etc?) to post this to this list? Do people need permission to

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-30 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Auke Kok wrote: > On 11/29/10 14:10, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote: >> I've looked here: ... >> http://wiki.meego.com/Mailing_list_guidelines ... > In general, any form of "spam" or "advertisement" is outside regular > mailing list policy. Since the post discussed is an invitation to a >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-30 Thread Attila Csipa
On Monday 29 November 2010 23:29:07 you wrote: > Did you get express permission from the MeeGo community council (Dawn, > Quim, etc?) to post this to this list? On a side note (I know you know), just to point out before some people get confused, there is (sadly) no such thing as a MeeGo community

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-30 Thread Auke Kok
[I posted this to Dave privately too but I think everyone should read it to understand why I objected in the first place to the original post. please read the entire reply below, thanks.] On 11/30/10 02:57, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, Auke Kok wrote: On 11/22/10 23:18, Jarkko Moilanen wrote: N

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-30 Thread Randall Arnold
> - Original message - > From: "Auke Kok‎" > To: "Dave Neary‎" , "Development for the MeeGo Project‎" > Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors > Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:57:58 -0800 > > > >

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-30 Thread Jarkko Moilanen
Quoting Randall Arnold : - Original message - From: "Auke Kok?" To: "Dave Neary?" , "Development for the MeeGo Project?" Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 09:57:58 -0800 [I posted th

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-30 Thread Clark, Joel
Randall Arnold wrote: > Auke Kok wrote: > > So, can people who want to do a survey please just "ask first" ? > As in many debates between passionate and professional people both sides in this one have valid points. That said, while I respect Auke and his experience very much I also disagree wi

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-30 Thread Randall Arnold
"Kok, Auke-jan H‎" , "Dave Neary‎" , "Development for the MeeGo Project‎" Subject: RE: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:12:38 -0700 Randall Arnold wrote: �> Auke Kok wrote: > > So, can people w