On jeu., 2011-02-17 at 14:54 -0800, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> > Forgive me if I am wrong, but wasn't Upstart a requirement for the
> > Mobile Simplified Security Framework? Has the work on integrating that
> > framework into MeeGo stopped as well?
>
> that is currently under investigation/discus
On jeu., 2011-02-17 at 11:03 +0200, Tapio Rantala wrote:
> pe, 2011-01-07 kello 16:11 +0200, ext Tapio Rantala kirjoitti:
> > Hi all!
> >
> > We are preparing upstart so that it would be integrated in meego 1.2 and
> > therefore replace sysvinit as init provider.
>
> Hi
>
> Due to recent events
On 2/17/2011 2:46 PM, John Veness wrote:
On 17/02/11 09:03, Tapio Rantala wrote:
pe, 2011-01-07 kello 16:11 +0200, ext Tapio Rantala kirjoitti:
Hi all!
We are preparing upstart so that it would be integrated in meego 1.2
and
therefore replace sysvinit as init provider.
Hi
Due to recent ev
On 17/02/11 09:03, Tapio Rantala wrote:
pe, 2011-01-07 kello 16:11 +0200, ext Tapio Rantala kirjoitti:
Hi all!
We are preparing upstart so that it would be integrated in meego 1.2 and
therefore replace sysvinit as init provider.
Hi
Due to recent events work on this has been stopped and meego
2011/2/17 Arjan van de Ven :
> On 2/17/2011 1:08 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:
>>
>> 2011/2/17 Tapio Rantala:
>>>
>>> pe, 2011-01-07 kello 16:11 +0200, ext Tapio Rantala kirjoitti:
Hi all!
We are preparing upstart so that it would be integrated in meego 1.2 and
therefore replace
On 2/17/2011 1:08 AM, Carsten Munk wrote:
2011/2/17 Tapio Rantala:
pe, 2011-01-07 kello 16:11 +0200, ext Tapio Rantala kirjoitti:
Hi all!
We are preparing upstart so that it would be integrated in meego 1.2 and
therefore replace sysvinit as init provider.
Hi
Due to recent events work on this
2011/2/17 Tapio Rantala :
> pe, 2011-01-07 kello 16:11 +0200, ext Tapio Rantala kirjoitti:
>> Hi all!
>>
>> We are preparing upstart so that it would be integrated in meego 1.2 and
>> therefore replace sysvinit as init provider.
>
> Hi
>
> Due to recent events work on this has been stopped and meeg
pe, 2011-01-07 kello 16:11 +0200, ext Tapio Rantala kirjoitti:
> Hi all!
>
> We are preparing upstart so that it would be integrated in meego 1.2 and
> therefore replace sysvinit as init provider.
Hi
Due to recent events work on this has been stopped and meego can
continue to use sysvinit&fastin
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Kees Jongenburger
wrote:
> Upstart does not have "multi-state" support, nor does it have
> runlevels. Dependency handling does not work as one would expect as
> Upstart is inherently not even a state machine but just an event
> handler. Restart behavior is not we
On 01/10/2011 03:14 PM, ext Arjan van de Ven wrote:
the world does not change for apps or anything not running as root.
Ok, thanks.
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On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Janne Karhunen
wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Arjan van de Ven
> wrote:
>
>>> PS: initV support parallel start and depends (see in debian)
>>
>> the point of upstart isn't parallel start; that's almost the worst feature
>> of upstart to be hones
On 1/10/2011 5:09 AM, Pertti Kellomäki wrote:
On 01/07/2011 04:11 PM, ext Tapio Rantala wrote:
We are preparing upstart so that it would be integrated in meego 1.2 and
therefore replace sysvinit as init provider.
For average meego package, this does not change much. Upstart supports
sysvinit st
On 01/07/2011 04:11 PM, ext Tapio Rantala wrote:
We are preparing upstart so that it would be integrated in meego 1.2 and
therefore replace sysvinit as init provider.
For average meego package, this does not change much. Upstart supports
sysvinit style init scripts so they will continue to work
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>> PS: initV support parallel start and depends (see in debian)
>
> the point of upstart isn't parallel start; that's almost the worst feature
> of upstart to be honest
> (but obviously I expect this to be done correctly and properly as
ext Arjan van de Ven writes:
> the only reason to do upstart now is the integration with the security
> framework.
This is a surprising dependency... I would be happy if you could
elaborate a bit.
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On 1/8/2011 2:49 PM, Leonid Batizhevsky wrote:
PS: initV support parallel start and depends (see in debian)
the point of upstart isn't parallel start; that's almost the worst
feature of upstart to be honest
(but obviously I expect this to be done correctly and properly as part
of the ups
On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 4:19 AM, Leonid Batizhevsky wrote:
> I think not need use upstart at 1.2.
> Pointlessly to rewrite scripts under the upstart and then in the next
I think it was already said that it's not pointless practice. From
what I gathered, integration work for the security framework
i
I think not need use upstart at 1.2.
Pointlessly to rewrite scripts under the upstart and then in the next
version again put a lot of effort to adapt to systemd. Especially to
1.3 will already have done much in the Fedora community.
PS: initV support parallel start and depends (see in debian)
Leo
On 1/7/2011 6:46 AM, Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
Glen Gray wrote:
For average meego package, this does not change much. Upstart supports
sysvinit style init scripts so they will continue to work as usual.
This raises then the obvious question of Why ?
What tangible benefits does moving to Upstart of
On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:19, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On 1/7/2011 7:10 AM, Glen Gray wrote:
>> On 7 Jan 2011, at 14:46, Dave Neary wrote:
>>
This raises then the obvious question of Why ?
What tangible benefits does moving to Upstart offer.
>>> I can answer this...
>>>
>>> Upstart suppor
On 7 Jan 2011, at 15:17, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
>
> well if it doesn't it gets undone ;-)
>
> I have put in the request already for the new upstart to be parallel as
> package to the fastinit package, so that for a while, there is a choice
> between the two.
>
>
> For those who are wonderin
On 1/7/2011 7:10 AM, Glen Gray wrote:
On 7 Jan 2011, at 14:46, Dave Neary wrote:
This raises then the obvious question of Why ?
What tangible benefits does moving to Upstart offer.
I can answer this...
Upstart supports old init style scripts, but that's not all it supports.
You can do things
On 1/7/2011 6:11 AM, Tapio Rantala wrote:
Hi all!
There has been a lot of discussions about this subject, but
unfortunately behind closed doors. Now that I am expected to take
action, I'll bring this message forth.
We are preparing upstart so that it would be integrated in meego 1.2 and
therefo
On 7 Jan 2011, at 14:46, Dave Neary wrote:
>> This raises then the obvious question of Why ?
>> What tangible benefits does moving to Upstart offer.
>
> I can answer this...
>
> Upstart supports old init style scripts, but that's not all it supports.
> You can do things like have inter-service
Hi,
Carsten Munk wrote:
> http://wiki.meego.com/Architecture/Meetings/20101117_Weekly would
> probably illustrate reasons.
The minutes say:
> We agreed to a hand-on workshop on making systemd a reality right after
> Thanksgiving.
So... is it Thanksgiving yet?
Cheers,
Dave.
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Hi,
Glen Gray wrote:
>> For average meego package, this does not change much. Upstart supports
>> sysvinit style init scripts so they will continue to work as usual.
>
> This raises then the obvious question of Why ?
> What tangible benefits does moving to Upstart offer.
I can answer this...
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On 7 Jan 2011, at 14:11, Tapio Rantala wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> There has been a lot of discussions about this subject, but
> unfortunately behind closed doors.
Boo.
> Now that I am expected to take
> action, I'll bring this message forth.
>
> We are preparing upstart so that it would be integrat
over systemd?
just asking..
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Hi all!
There has been a lot of discussions about this subject, but
unfortunately behind closed doors. Now that I am expected to take
action, I'll bring this message forth.
We are preparing upstart so that it would be integrated in meego 1.2 and
therefore replace sysvinit as init provider.
For a
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