Re: [MBZ] trouble light

2006-10-20 Thread Zeitgeist
Either the brake fluid is low, or your brake pads are worn down and need replacing. On 10/20/06, MICHAEL ESH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What does the third indicator light from the left on the dash represent on a 1983 240D? It is a rectangular yellow light with a black circle in the middle. T

Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

2006-10-20 Thread Chris Kueny
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Re: [MBZ] trouble light

2006-10-20 Thread MICHAEL ESH
Thanks Chuck, I put new pads and indicators on last week and then a new main line to the rear tonight. One of them must have worked its way lose. I will check tomorrow. Mike - Original Message - From: "Chuck Landenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Fri

Re: [MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-20 Thread Chris Kueny
My mother (70's) drives an '84 900. She loves it and wouldn't think of letting us get her something newer, or an automatic. Hers is not as slow as a 240D. The 'S' model was a 16-valve and a little quicker. For $200 I don't think you can go wrong, unless, like you say, it is dangerous because

[MBZ] 1979 240D, Blown Injector Line!!

2006-10-20 Thread ts
Today traveling back from (what else looking at a 1966 200D) I blew my #4 cylinder injector line right where it attaches to the injctor nut. (maybe the 240D did not like he idea of me thinking of a 110 Chassis and let me have it) Made a big mess. The clamp fell off and must of allowed enough

[MBZ] trouble light

2006-10-20 Thread MICHAEL ESH
What does the third indicator light from the left on the dash represent on a 1983 240D? It is a rectangular yellow light with a black circle in the middle. The circle has 3 black dashes going around the circle on each side of it. I do not have an owners manual. Thanks in advance, Mike From [EM

Re: [MBZ] 1966 200D, 110 Chassis

2006-10-20 Thread Loren Faeth
Mine has 3-400k on it. I only put on 100K or so. Yes, I put a factory short block in it in 1973. Loren 66 200D 66 200D 2.4 et al At 03:06 PM 10/20/2006, you wrote: On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 03:31:08PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Besides Marshall anyone have any experience with the 110 ch

Re: [MBZ] O.T. opening attachment question

2006-10-20 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hey guys For some reason I thought O.T. was a reference to the Old Testament.. H.. Maybe you all should come over to the MAC side. Take care Chuck Phoenix AZ On Oct 20, 2006, at 4:13 PM, Redghost wrote: do not click on the link? Instead copy

[MBZ] O.T. opening attachment question

2006-10-20 Thread Bob Rentfro
I hate asking computer questions 'cause I'm such a friggin' rock when it comes to these "confusers", but here goes. When ever there is a link within an email (like Kaleb's look-at-my-parts link) and I try to click on it to go there, my computer just locks up. The cursor arrow turns into the litt

Re: [MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-20 Thread John Peterson
Curt, I had many 900's. Very nice car. Will run 200k+. Gearbox in the 85-88 were weak and usually gave out about 130k or so. I might have been an exception, but I had really, really good luck with all of my 900's. No electrical problems, they were spirited, economical and parts were cheap. Easy

Re: [MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-20 Thread Zeitgeist
I did my drivers license test in a '74 Saab. The only thing I vaguely remember about the '85 era vehicles is that I think they have the extra weird gear driven H2O pumps which are a bitch to R&R, and leak into the sump when they fail. I like Saabs...sort of. On 10/20/06, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PR

[MBZ] Saab question

2006-10-20 Thread Curt Raymond
I know we've got some Saab enthusiasts on this list so. Theres an '85 Saab 900 on Craigslist near me. 114k miles, 5spd. Supposedly needs a fuel pump relay to run. They want $200, the pictures make it look like a very nice car which considering its a New England car means its a rust bucket but I d

Re: [MBZ] cold(er) weather starting issues?

2006-10-20 Thread R A Bennell
Hello Tom Not really worried about cold weather starting in the long term. I don't drive the car through the winter. I will park it in the garage on Halloween and not drive it until probably April of 07. I just have it on the street now as I have another project sitting in its garage spot tempor

Re: [MBZ] 1966 200D, 110 Chassis

2006-10-20 Thread Kevin
On Fri, Oct 20, 2006 at 03:31:08PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Besides Marshall anyone have any experience with the 110 chassis and the > 200D. I looked at one today, very little rust at all, owner who is the 3rd > has done alot of work. Car has 100,000 miles all gauges work, original >

Re: [MBZ] cold(er) weather starting issues?

2006-10-20 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 15:43:15 -0400 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. Convert from the looptype glow plugs to the filement type > mercedessource.com has a conversion around 100 dollars US and an easy > job. Biggest thing you can do. Talk to our list sponsor (Rusty) at (800) 741-5252 about this. Ye

Re: [MBZ] cold(er) weather starting issues?

2006-10-20 Thread ts
Randy A few things. 1. Good battery. 2. Convert from the looptype glow plugs to the filement type mercedessource.com has a conversion around 100 dollars US and an easy job. Biggest thing you can do. 3. Block heater. If you do not have one get one and put it in lower radiator hose. KAT mak

Re: [MBZ] Light Alloy Wheels

2006-10-20 Thread OK Don
Chuck nailed it - the light alloy wheels are thicker - giving you less vertical movement, might not a full "click"worth. I removed the steel wheels anyway, just for that little bit of extra movement. On 10/20/06, Chuck Landenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Larry, On my departed 116 300SD, I a

Re: [MBZ] changed slightly - How many gears in a 76' 300D?

2006-10-20 Thread OK Don
It was handy when starting out up hill, first thing on a cold morning, before the engine had warmed up much --- On 10/20/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I tried it last night on the way home from the office. Pulled it into L and it did appear to be a bit lower than normal. Not sure w

[MBZ] 1966 200D, 110 Chassis

2006-10-20 Thread ts
Besides Marshall anyone have any experience with the 110 chassis and the 200D. I looked at one today, very little rust at all, owner who is the 3rd has done alot of work. Car has 100,000 miles all gauges work, original radio works. Needs some door seals, an rear window seals. interior in rea

Re: [MBZ] '87 300SDL tensioner replace

2006-10-20 Thread OK Don
Yes - you can do it with the radiator in place - but it's a lot easier with the shroud un-bolted, and perhaps the fan removed (can't remember). The only gotcha I ran into was that sinking feeling when it feels like the threads are stripping when torquing the big bolt through the tensioning arm int

Re: [MBZ] Light Alloy Wheels

2006-10-20 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Larry, On my departed 116 300SD, I always removed the wheel in order to adjust the rear parking brake shoes... If for no other reason that it allowed for greater vertical movement of the screwdriver and greater movement of that "thingy" inside... If you can imagine a clockwise moveme

[MBZ] Light Alloy Wheels

2006-10-20 Thread LarryT
Howdy - I was reading the procedure for adjusting the rear brakes and it tells of removing a single wheel lug, - and adjusting the brakes thru the hole - but it mentions the need to remove the Light Alloy Wheel. Does the standard wheels on my '91 300D 2.5T count as light alloy in this case

Re: [MBZ] changed slightly - How many gears in a 76' 300D?

2006-10-20 Thread R A Bennell
I tried it last night on the way home from the office. Pulled it into L and it did appear to be a bit lower than normal. Not sure why MB bothered though. Unless I put a hitch on it and use it to pull boats out at the launch ramp, I'm not likely to ever need it. Randy -Original Message-

[MBZ] Possible source of rim upgrades for 123 and early 126

2006-10-20 Thread Zeitgeist
This link might be of interest to some folks who are looking for an expanded selection of rims for their 123 and early 126 vehicles. VW Bus/Vanagons run the same 5x112mm - 30mm offset as 14" Bundt rims. YMMV http://www2.cip1.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=1935 -- Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: "I dr

[MBZ] '87 300SDL tensioner replace

2006-10-20 Thread Luther
So, I started on the tensioner pulley R&R last night, but ended up spending more than an hour looking for my 10mm socket. So, I'm going to ask for the collective knowledge of the list on tensioner pulley R&R for the OM 603. What are the gotchas? Can this be done with the radiator in place? TIA a

Re: [MBZ] HOW MANY GEARS IN 300D transmission

2006-10-20 Thread Michael Hall
You can say it as often as you want, it doesn't make you right. On 10/20/06, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I will say this again, so everyone pay attention, The 123 and 126 turbo cars start in FIRST. If they dont, something is wrong or misadjusted. The older non turbo cars start

Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-20 Thread Bob Rentfro
Hendrik typed: "I use a aftermarket product specifically designed for the job, which is about 1/2" thick." What is it exactly? Where can a dude with a crumbly hood pad see what you used? I replaced the one on the previous 300D I had and I seem to remember it was going south after about 3 years

Re: [MBZ] HOW MANY GEARS IN 300D transmission

2006-10-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I will say this again, so everyone pay attention, The 123 and 126 turbo cars start in FIRST. If they dont, something is wrong or misadjusted. The older non turbo cars start in 2nd, will kick down into first if kickdown switch is hit. The gas v8's with 4 speed trans(as in the 126's) start in 2

Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?

2006-10-20 Thread andrew strasfogel
<> T'ain't so! My 1970 4 spd. 111 coupe 4 speed automatic on the floor starts in FIRST gear, however briefly, as does my 1983 300TD turbodiesel. On 10/19/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MB never put a 2 speed or 3 speed auto in a car. No, our 450 SL has one. So far as I know,

Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-20 Thread M.Afzaal.Khan
Must be so . I got mine off the shelf but seemed a little crumbly as if it had aged . mak Comes to mind that the life of rubber parts does not start when put into service, but rather when produced. These hoodpads may been on the shelve for 15 to 20 yeras. I bought brand new fork spring gait

Re: [MBZ] Rear Calipers - 91 300D 2.5T

2006-10-20 Thread LarryT
Thanks Peter - I tried an 11mm flare fitting wrench but it was damged before I got to it and it looks like it'll be damaged farther getting things loose I have new parts - except for the metal line on the passenger side - Rusty couldn;t get it - perhaps it's been discontinued. I may need to

Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-20 Thread Hans Neureiter
Comes to mind that the life of rubber parts does not start when put into service, but rather when produced. These hoodpads may been on the shelve for 15 to 20 yeras. I bought brand new fork spring gaiters for my '72 T100 Daytona and they lasted one year. I like "That sounds like a Tank" to be appr

Re: [MBZ] HOW MANY GEARS IN 300D transmission

2006-10-20 Thread Michael Hall
Mercedes has offered too many transmissions in too many different cars to unilaterally say what gear a given car will start in. I think a 79 240D should have a 722.117 and the 83 300D should have a 722.315 and both SHOULD start in 2nd gear. The 85 CALIFORNIA version should have what is essential

Re: [MBZ] Speeds

2006-10-20 Thread RELNGSON
> <> > As I recall, my '73 450SE was a 3-speed. RLE

[MBZ] HOW MANY GEARS IN 300D transmission

2006-10-20 Thread Stephen D Murrell
Hi; My 79 240D starts in 2nd unless accel. is pushed down all they way to floor, then downshifts to 1st my 83 300D works the same; starts in 2nd unless accel. pushed down to floor My 1985 works this way; Starts out in 1st (it is a Calif. model) not sure if Federal model is same? All three cars hav

Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

2006-10-20 Thread Gary Hurst
y'know, you guys need to remind which list i'm on! geez, no wonder normal people stopped coming to klebnet On 10/19/06, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: actually, if you add violently scratching my scrotum, you pretty much have me here. On 10/19/06, Frank Pembleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

2006-10-20 Thread Gary Hurst
actually, if you add violently scratching my scrotum, you pretty much have me here. On 10/19/06, Frank Pembleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So does Hurst. (So I've heard...no personal knowledge) _ Frank Pembleton Manchester, MO KLEB FOR PREZ!! -Original Message-

Re: [MBZ] Jim C. Feels sick 10/19

2006-10-20 Thread Jim Cathey
Some cool stuff at that auction! Unfortunately due to employment I couldn't stay for the whole thing. It was thinly attended due to the rain, there were some nice deals. Such as the four-post RV lift for $250. (Some assembly required.) I went for an hour at lunch. I didn't get the scale weig

Re: [MBZ] Rear Calipers - 91 300D 2.5T

2006-10-20 Thread Jim Cathey
is it a big deal rebuilding them or should I go ahead and replace them? They rebuild just fine. I use a grease gun filled with water to pump out the pucks. (The threads are the same.) -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?

2006-10-20 Thread Jim Cathey
MB never put a 2 speed or 3 speed auto in a car. No, our 450 SL has one. So far as I know, all MB automatics were four-speeds with a fluid coupler. I thought they put the 3-speeds into the V8 cars, but they had a torque converter to make up for the lack of first gear. (Our SL will do about 60

Re: [MBZ] Rear Calipers - 91 300D 2.5T

2006-10-20 Thread Peter Frederick
They are dual piston ATE calipers, probably exactly the same as the Porsche (and anything else European). Very easy. GENTLE use of compressed air works, but I usually just free the stuck piston up with the brake pedal (remove that pad only, it will pop loose) then use two screwdrivers or two

Re: [MBZ] RustyQ 2006

2006-10-20 Thread Frank Pembleton
So does Hurst. (So I've heard...no personal knowledge) _ Frank Pembleton Manchester, MO KLEB FOR PREZ!! -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 6:47 PM Thats no probem at all. She snores and farts all night though. Gary Hurst wr

[MBZ] Used parts specials for 10/19/06

2006-10-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQrdZ0QQsassZokieQ2dbenz -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL #2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 84 190D 2.2 #2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin

Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?

2006-10-20 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Loads of 3 speeds went into Benzes, they actually are a superb gearbox. - Original Message - From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 5:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D? even the 110 automatics were/a

Re: [MBZ] How many gears in an 83' 300D?

2006-10-20 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Far as I know all four speed Merc boxes are designed to start in second, the operators manual makes reference to this if I remember right. The normal shift pattern is 2 3 4, selecting S will lock out 4th so the shift pattern is 2 3, selecting L while driving will put the box in second until you

Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-20 Thread Hendrik Riessen
I think you may try that first and let us know how Grandma's old rug does under the bonnet. - Original Message - From: "Redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 2:13 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of) Why not just get

Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)

2006-10-20 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Probably rub on engine components. I use a aftermarket product specifically designed for the job, which is about 1/2" thick. Have had it on my 230E for well over two years and still looks like new. I have heard people say that the pad they bought from dealers is rubbish and not lasting. This is