Re: [MBZ] O.T. Lister Age Span

2007-01-05 Thread OK Don
We aim to please! Remember - "Chaos is the ultimate nature of the universe". On 1/4/07, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Someone doing a doctoral dissertation on chaos theory should study our threads! We can go to "who is the oldest here" to "I am 74" to "you can still get them new from India"

Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)

2007-01-05 Thread Redghost
We might just wash away if it continues. Saturated soil will result in lost tree cover and with the steep slopes, the whole mess will slide into Puget Sound or one of the many wetlands. Going to begin my ark in a week. Figure there is enough free wood to be had on CL to make it meet the cubi

Re: [MBZ] O.T. Lister Age Span

2007-01-05 Thread LT Don
Someone doing a doctoral dissertation on chaos theory should study our threads! We can go to "who is the oldest here" to "I am 74" to "you can still get them new from India" in less than a half dozen posts. Love it. D. On 1/4/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I know - but when did "List

Re: [MBZ] Washington State

2007-01-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Redghost wrote: > > RENT? Try to buy some place to live for under a quarter million. > Broom closet condos are going for better than $240k I guess I'll stay in Michigan. I'm fixin' to offer 25k on a 2.8 acre hillside, with frontage on two paved roads, about 300 yards from a freeway exit. Figur

Re: [MBZ] Washington State

2007-01-05 Thread Redghost
Oh heck, just let the faeries get wed and go through all the legal hassle hetero folks deal with. Get divorced once and you will not be so willing to mess around with that institution again. Might as well bar stupid people from breeding while we are at it. At least the gay folk will not be p

Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)

2007-01-05 Thread Luther
If you like adjusting valves, buy a 300CD. It's MUCH more fun to drive than the SD. Specially when you have an SDL or '87 TD around... see my signature line for refrences :) On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 17:01:34 -0600, kevin kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe if I hit the powerball and h

Re: [MBZ] Washington State

2007-01-05 Thread Redghost
There are far more queens here than there are colored folk. Used to be called the Queen City. The less fay were able to compromise with the Judy Garland loving cross dressers and called it the Emerald City. Changed the county name to support a black man recently. On Jan 4, 2007, at 11:33 A

[MBZ] PHX CL W123 Parts

2007-01-05 Thread Bob Rentfro
Parts, parts, parts. If I didn't have to work tomorrow, I'd go look. http://phoenix.craigslist.org/pts/257285507.html Bob R. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 05 03:38:14 2007 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.185]) by server8.arterytc8.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H2fuI-0

Re: [MBZ] Using lower octane fuel

2007-01-05 Thread RELNGSON
My C320 requires premium fuel but a few years ago there was such a price spread between premium and mid-grade that I thought I'd try it. I didn't notice any real difference in power and don't recall whether there was a drop in mileage or not. Since the M112 V6 has knock sensors, they would hear

Re: [MBZ] Washington State

2007-01-05 Thread Redghost
RENT? Try to buy some place to live for under a quarter million. Broom closet condos are going for better than $240k On Jan 4, 2007, at 11:30 AM, David Brodbeck wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: Dude, I've met folks just like that. I'm just the messenger. This state is plum full of kooks. I th

Re: [MBZ] speaking of ULSD

2007-01-05 Thread Peter Frederick
Well, actually the sulfur containing compounds are the ones providing much of the lubricating qualities -- the vast majority of most diesel fuel is linear hydrocarbons, not particularly good lubricants. The aromatic fraction contains the sulfur. Sulfur comes out of the refinery in tank trucks

[MBZ] list mail

2007-01-05 Thread Luther
sheesh, everyone is SO chatty here lately. I'm going to hide out on digest until the traffic slows down to around 100 emails a day. 200+ is WAYYY TOOO many for me to handle right now. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82

Re: [MBZ] speaking of ULSD

2007-01-05 Thread OK Don
Yup - or to quote the list administrator - "read the archives". On 1/4/07, Chris Kueny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks. That was rich. Chris >I had a flashback when I saw this email. > > --R -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just

Re: [MBZ] Trying out 0Wxx Mobil 1

2007-01-05 Thread John W. Reames III
On Thu, 4 Jan 2007, Zoltan Finks wrote: > By this do you mean press pedal all the way down and release, or press pedal > all the way down and hold there? Above freezing: Turn key to glow. wait for light to go out+15 sec. Turn key to start. Hold key in start until engine fires regularly. (Releas

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: Octane rating question

2007-01-05 Thread OK Don
A Diesel without an ADA or ALDA will certainly notice it! My '70 220D lost a lot of power, and smoked badly in the mountains! My '76 300D had a manual adjustment on the IP for altitude - I think it was in 1000 meter increments (but that was a long time ago). I did notice that diesels don't eve

Re: [MBZ] O.T. Lister Age Span

2007-01-05 Thread Chris Kueny
You can still get them new from India. Check out www.utterpower.com. This guy imports them, as well as other old-timey simple diesels. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: [MBZ] O.T. Lister Age Span

2007-01-05 Thread OK Don
So did I - when were the Lister engines produced? On 1/4/07, Rory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And here I was thinking you we're talking about the engine "Lister" R- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers '90 300D

Re: [MBZ] Dented 300CD

2007-01-05 Thread Redghost
next encounter with the insurance dork, just tell them to talk to your lawyer and see how fast they come up with numbers that you like. On Jan 3, 2007, at 9:15 PM, woodlandtaylors wrote: Follow up on the 300CD.would not increase the $2300 offer on the car so instead are going to repair it.

Re: [MBZ] Gas vs. diesel prices?

2007-01-05 Thread OK Don
Yes - but the 450 117 engine in the SLC calls for 87. Of course, it only has 8:1 compression, and the performance to prove it. Does anyone here put low-grade in their MB gassers? -j. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Wi

[MBZ] 220D doors

2007-01-05 Thread Redghost
Not to compete with our faithful list father, but I snagged some 114/115 doors today. Anybody need one? Cover shipping and call it good. Have the trunk lid too. I am intending to source some parts from these filthy things, but if you need the sheet metal parts, I am happy to ship on your di

Re: [MBZ] Regular

2007-01-05 Thread John M McIntosh
On Jan 4, 2007, at 5:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you can find an E320 powered by anything but a 3.2 V-6 I'd be surprised. Unless it's a new Bluetec. Oddly enough I was at the dealer today picking up a part and they had just roll a new 2007 BlueTec diesel off the truck and you cou

Re: [MBZ] rear exhaust hanger question

2007-01-05 Thread Marshall Booth
Jim Cathey wrote: The improved 'donuts' have chain or something inside the rubber so they don't stretch out. -- Jim The "donuts" that you refer to as "improved" (they have a metal core) are specific to certain models and should not be used on other models. Simply get the correct part for you

Re: [MBZ] 300CD damage and value.

2007-01-05 Thread Jim Cathey
Keep in mind that you can always buy the car back for its "salvage value" if they do total it. It'll have a salvage title, though, which will forever reduce its resale value and may make it hard to get collision or comprehensive insurance on. 'They' can do no such thing, because 'they' neither

Re: [MBZ] Washington State

2007-01-05 Thread Zeitgeist
Da G'mnt shouldn't be in the marriage bidness to begin with. They should just enforce contractual agreements between consenting parties, and leave the vexing morality plays to those WGAS about such silliness. I had an entirely secular state-sanctioned contract signing ceremony, officiated by a d

Re: [MBZ] OT: Just when it can't get any worse

2007-01-05 Thread Jim Cathey
So annoying. Life without a credit card stinks. I'd gotten so used to flying cash-less. Take the password back off, and be flying cash-less again real soon! :-) -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] W201 Manuals

2007-01-05 Thread OK Don
See the subject line -- "[MBZ] W201 Manuals" W123? W210? OM606? -j. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there." Will Rogers '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager

Re: [MBZ] W201 Manuals

2007-01-05 Thread OK Don
The technical data books look like the closest thing I see -- http://www.classictechlit.mbusa.com/MB/cstmsearch.asp?MYID=-1&SDID=-1&MDID=1318&ENID=-1&catalog_name=Retail My wife ordered two technical data books for me for Christmas, and got an email saying that they were back ordered! Ahhh...

Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)

2007-01-05 Thread Zeitgeist
We've had an especially wet wet wet Autumn and Winter, so far...oh ya, and really really high winds, too. You know, the kind that knock yer power out for 7 days. On 1/4/07, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On a different Washington note: How about the weather - the news is now officiall

Re: [MBZ] ATF Type A??

2007-01-05 Thread ernest breakfield
perfect, Marshall; thanks for that. i was curious if you'd used both M1 and MTL and found a difference between them; i can't imagine why anyone would do that, but i wouldn't have been surprised if you (or someone you knew of) had done it just for the sake of experimentation! FWIW, i've fou

Re: [MBZ] Washington State (was: rear exhaust hanger question)

2007-01-05 Thread Zeitgeist
So is Warshington; we just kvetch a lot about noobs, that's all. On 1/4/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I never said anybody wasn't welcome, Maine is a very welcoming state. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state" '87 300TD intercooler/propane #22

Re: [MBZ] speaking of ULSD

2007-01-05 Thread Marshall Booth
Peter Frederick wrote: Actually, it turned out that removing lead from gasoline REDUCED valve wear -- lead oxide is an abrasive, and far from collecting and making a wear resistant surface, it was actively grinding on the valves and seat as the valve operated. Fine lead oxide particles made t

Re: [MBZ] compression ratio 300SL

2007-01-05 Thread Mike Canfield
Hi Marshall, I bet you do have the papers that say so...I would guess that if you compare compression ratios, those years with lower octane ratings should have correspondingly lower compression ratios. Just speculation but sounds very logical, at least to me. Mike - Original Message

Re: [MBZ] compression ratio 300SL

2007-01-05 Thread Marshall Booth
Prior to 1972 ALL Mercedes gasoline engines delivered to the US required 91 octane, between '72 and '85 87 octane fuel was fine (for US delivered cars). Starting in 1986 all models except the '86 190E 2.3 required 91 octane ('87 and later 190E 2.3 required 91 octane too) and that is true thru 2

Re: [MBZ] Diesels at altitude

2007-01-05 Thread RELNGSON
> < were alot of diesel cars and trucks there.>>  > As long as they are turbo'd. Otherwise RLE

Re: [MBZ] Regular

2007-01-05 Thread RELNGSON
> < 6, 8 > or 12 cylinder they all ping when run on back to back tanks of regular. We > alternate tanks between Shell premium and super with no ill effects on all > the cars. knocking is non existant. Won't run regualr as I don't want to > spend $1600 for a pair of MAS air flow sensors.>> > If you

Re: [MBZ] NO GLOW & exhaust hangers

2007-01-05 Thread Marshall Booth
OK Don wrote: Actually, you can argue with the meter in the under 1 ohm range - dirt on the glow plug post could easily account for an extra 0.3 ohms. Unless you have a very high quality meter and probes and very clean connection points, I'd consider the under 1 ohm readings as "ball park". As Ji

Re: [MBZ] Sorta OT: Octane rating question

2007-01-05 Thread David Brodbeck
Rich Thomas wrote: > I got to wondering why this was. I was thinking it might have something > to do with altitude, and lower octane being OK, but that does not take > turbos into account. Or the MBTE/ethanol lack? > > So, can someone explain this? > >From what I've read in the Gasoline FAQ

Re: [MBZ] OT: Just when it can't get any worse

2007-01-05 Thread David Brodbeck
Be sure to call all three credit agencies and have them put a fraud alert on your account. Also pull a credit report from each of them. If the identity thieves have gotten that far they may already have some cards you don't know about yet!

Re: [MBZ] compression ratio 300SL

2007-01-05 Thread David Brodbeck
James Zavesky wrote: > I'll bring in E320's from time to time and irregardless if it's a small 6, 8 > or 12 cylinder they all ping when run on back to back tanks of regular. We > alternate tanks between Shell premium and super with no ill effects on all > the cars. knocking is non existant. Won't r

[MBZ] Used parts specials for 1/4/07

2007-01-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQfrppZ50QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQrdZ0QQsassZokieQ2dbenz -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net

Re: [MBZ] people in iowa must smoke too many corn cobs

2007-01-05 Thread LT Don
Ah, Fairfield. I imagine the car gets pretty good mpg in levitation mode. Or at least the tires last forever. On 1/4/07, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually, that is a floater. Most floaters have moved in from Calif. Maharishi International University is in Fairfield. They get gro

[MBZ] OT -- Navigator wings and ribbons on the priest

2007-01-05 Thread wilton strickland
Captain Engler, USN (Ret) said, "We've earned the right to salute." AMEN. Wilton Strickland LtCol, USAF (Ret)

Re: [MBZ] people in iowa must smoke too many corn cobs

2007-01-05 Thread Loren Faeth
Actually, that is a floater. Most floaters have moved in from Calif. Maharishi International University is in Fairfield. They get groups together and meditate for world peace and for being able to sell their car for 4 times what its worth. Not a native Awan: 99% probability At 05:27 PM 1/4

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