Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread Redghost
Seems like there is pitting. I used a shop towel and water to wipe what came off easy, but there is heavy accumulations and I got a new wheel brush (garbage it turns out) and went to work. Brush self destructed. It was a combination bristle and scour with a nice handle. Just disintegrat

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Parts including 4 spd manny for sale no Affiliation

2007-05-20 Thread Chris Lane
I'm just wondering how difficult it would be to put the manual transmission into my 300SD. It sounds like it has everything I need, except the longer driveshaft, which I could probably dig up in a junkyard. I'm wondering if it would work at all, or would the considerable increase in weight kill

Re: [MBZ] 1987 190E 2.6

2007-05-20 Thread Wonko the Sane
Perhaps the body of the vehicle's true owner, with dent made during the car-jacking? On 5/19/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: there was a dent in the hood like something heavy had been dropped on it -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big diffe

Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread Ed Booher
On 5/20/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Will get a photo. Still trying to figure out who to cut the layers of dust without destroying the chrome. Soap and elbow grease until you get down to where a chrome polish will help? -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil

Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread Redghost
Will get a photo. Still trying to figure out who to cut the layers of dust without destroying the chrome. On May 20, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Ed Booher wrote: On 5/20/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chrome wheels are bad? Oh fiddle stix! I just snagged a set from a 6.9 at the PnP. Goin

Re: [MBZ] Mid May CL cars

2007-05-20 Thread Ed Booher
On 5/20/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A ferry ride and a trailer and you could haul it home. At that price it will be snapped up in a moment. Big eco freak contingent on the island. That's a car I'd enjoy owning. Going to have to sell something, kidney maybe. :) Come out there and

[MBZ] Web Links to mercedes Repair manuals

2007-05-20 Thread rmassmann
does anyone have web links to mercedes manuals on line. I had a link to the manual for my 87 190D, but changed computer and have lost the address. My father-in-law is working on a 1990 300D with the 2.5L turbo diesel. Had the turbo rebuilt, and now is in the process of checking oil lub system, no

Re: [MBZ] Mid May CL cars

2007-05-20 Thread Redghost
A ferry ride and a trailer and you could haul it home. At that price it will be snapped up in a moment. Big eco freak contingent on the island. clay On May 20, 2007, at 3:56 PM, Ed Booher wrote: On 5/19/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: With the list up, and mothers day over, here

[MBZ] Plain wrapper cars [was: Re: no accounting for taste...]

2007-05-20 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 20 May 2007 17:27:50 -0500 "Donald Snook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alex C. wrote: > > > "Currently I am fantasizing about a Maserati Biturbo sedan that > > inexplicably showed up on a used-car lot." > > There is one of those here in Wichita. I didn't think they were very > good cars

Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread Ed Booher
On 5/20/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chrome wheels are bad? Oh fiddle stix! I just snagged a set from a 6.9 at the PnP. Going to have to scrub the brake dust off, but seeing how the list hates chrome, I may end up selling them on CL. Gump was going to be so Stylin' with those wheels

Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread Redghost
Chrome wheels are bad? Oh fiddle stix! I just snagged a set from a 6.9 at the PnP. Going to have to scrub the brake dust off, but seeing how the list hates chrome, I may end up selling them on CL. Gump was going to be so Stylin' with those wheels.. On May 19, 2007, at 10:00 PM, Alex

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Parts including 4 spd manny for sale no Affiliation

2007-05-20 Thread Redghost
Looks like something Jim Cathey needs to scoop up with the Mog. On May 19, 2007, at 7:09 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote: Don't know if this got through last night or not. It's a craigslist ad with some parts, including a 4 speed. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/332710870.html Brian -

Re: [MBZ] Thrumming Gump

2007-05-20 Thread Redghost
Fan is direct and newly installed when the water pump died a few months ago. Did a tighten up for the new alternator and belt a bit after that. Good wild guess Took her for a ten mile drive to replicate. Not able to get her to do it again. Might be related to the high rev buzz in the

Re: [MBZ] Mid May CL cars

2007-05-20 Thread Ed Booher
On 5/19/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: With the list up, and mothers day over, here are a few local rides you could add to your stable. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/334292468.html -- Ed Booher!!! Wow! Has not run in 20 years?! I wonder just how bad the floorpans are in this

Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread Donald Snook
Alex C. wrote: "Currently I am fantasizing about a Maserati Biturbo sedan that inexplicably showed up on a used-car lot." There is one of those here in Wichita. I didn't think they were very good cars. But, it is a cool idea. A plain wrapper super fast sedan. Donald H. Snook 1990

Re: [MBZ] diesel advantages

2007-05-20 Thread Jeff Zedic
Larry, I think if you saw everything on offer over here you'd wet yer pants!! Honestly!! Anything you want you can get in a diesel variant! The C class starts with the C220 CDI, then goes up but the 220 is plenty fast enoughevery day I drove by E220 CDi's, ML's, CLS's, G's ...almost every F

Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread Jeff Zedic
Caution! The Maserati's are well known to "vapor-lock" according to an former acquaintance that was a factory trained tech. I myself almost bought a Ferrari 400 when I got here. There was a nice blue one for six grand but it had an auto trans.no chance I'm going to buy an automatic Ferrari!

Re: [MBZ] diesel advantages

2007-05-20 Thread LarryT
Thanks Jeff - Sorry - I forgot MB markets to places other than the US. ;-) I'm sure you;re right about not waiting for the bugs to be solved as I suggest. Now, if we can figure out how to solve the depreciation problem - and the cost of a new car in general. I haven't bought a new car since 19

Re: [MBZ] 1987 190E 2.6

2007-05-20 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:36:49 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It will get about 19 city 22 highway. Does require premium. That's what I thought. And with the cost of premium being 3.669 here today ... Besides, we just drove by the lot on the way home from church and dog tr

Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 5/20/07, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think the 400 is big classy GT. I've love to go on a motor trip in one. I'd also love a mid '80s Porsche 928. I'm lucky in that the cars I like most, don't have much of a market, so they are affordable to me. Well, almost affordable. Ditto! I a

[MBZ] exactly what the internet needs lots more of

2007-05-20 Thread Gary Hurst
i'm pretty sure none of you have ever heard of the usl. yet you can watch every game online http://usl.playonsports.tv/

Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread BillR
Ed - I am with you on the 928, though I could not afford to restore one and probably couldn't afford a decent one. With the proper colors/care I think they are very nice. The ones that have been poorly cared for are real dogs. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 290k miles, and still looking to buy

Re: [MBZ] Another shot of suspected leather seat

2007-05-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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Re: [MBZ] Carfax most kindly

2007-05-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Report Run Date: 05/20/2007 Vehicle Description: WDBDB22C2FF089167 TitleCheck: No Record Reported to AutoCheck Problem Check: No Record Reported to AutoCheck Odometer Check: No Record Reported to AutoCheck Vehicle Information: No Record Reported to AutoCheck Full History: No Record Rep

Re: [MBZ] OT: Aww man...

2007-05-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Wonko the Sane wrote: Guess I should include the fact that it is what I used on my motorcycle battery. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D 2.2, 81 240D, 81 380SLC

Re: [MBZ] 1987 190E 2.6

2007-05-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It will get about 19 city 22 highway. Does require premium. Craig McCluskey wrote: Saw one of these at our local "Lemon Lot" this afternoon. Sign says owner wants $1350/obo or trade for RV, truck, etc. ... It also says it runs smooth but needs some TLC. I could see that the hood release had b

Re: [MBZ] Server back up

2007-05-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you are welcome Harry Watkins wrote: U DA Man, Thanks Kleb Harry On 5/19/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you are reading this, the lists should be back up. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D 2.5 Turbo, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 2

Re: [MBZ] What's it worth?

2007-05-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
the 210 also has the evaporator issues. Kevin Kraly wrote: There's a 1996 E300D on Portland Craigslist for $11K with 134K miles on it. Better yet, there's a '95 W124 E300 diesel for the same price. IT has the same engine in a less rust prone chassis, but, of course, it's subject to the evap a

Re: [MBZ] A couple of other 87 TDs

2007-05-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have seen quite a few actually. I own a couple myself. Personally, I like burgandy interior. Call me strange. Ralph Morton wrote: --- Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well that's *your* opinion. LOL. The seller, of course, begs to differ: "The exterior color is Tan, the interior

Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread E M
Hi Alex, I've never owned one, but they are one of my fav Ferraris. I think a lot of the bad rep had to due with poor service, like so many cars like it. They don't cost a tonne of money used, but when faced with a tune-up bill that equals the cost of the car, most put stuff off, then they start

Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread Donald Snook
RLE wrote: "My first MB, a '72 250, was white with red tex." My first MB was a 71 250. It was the opposite of yours, it was red with a white interior. I loved that car, but the interior was hard to keep clean. I saw 95 124 gasser that was white with a white interior. Yuck. Donal

Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread andrew strasfogel
Remember "English red"? It was more like an electrically charged orange. There's no other color like it on the road... On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > <> > The Germans used to think that blue with red inside looked good. My first MB, a '72 250, was white with red tex

Re: [MBZ] diesel advantages

2007-05-20 Thread Jeff Zedic
Larry, Unless it's a complete model change, I don't see why you'd wait a year for the bugs to be workes out. The ML270 CDI has been out for over 5 years here. EVERY MB model has a diesel variant. From the A Class to the gorgeous CLS 320 CDI! BTW, I just looked at the pricing and the CLS diesel i

Re: [MBZ] diesel advantages

2007-05-20 Thread LarryT
RLE wrote:> I'll bet that would be a very economical car - would love to take one for a spin! Now that the ML is available with a diesel (this Fall I believe) I may give them a look but not seriously consider buying one until they've

[MBZ] Another shot of suspected leather seat

2007-05-20 Thread Zoltan Finks
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[MBZ] Leather Likelihood

2007-05-20 Thread Zoltan Finks
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Re: [MBZ] Thrumming Gump

2007-05-20 Thread Jim Cathey
In the wild guess category - I'd look at the fan, viscous clutch to see if any thing is loose, bent, or broken. Does Gump have a viscous fan clutch or is it direct drive? The Gumpster? It oughtn't. But mine does, nyah nyah nyah! -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 5/19/07, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My taste isn't the best at times either. I always thought it would be great to have a Ferrari 400i with oxe blood interior and dark blue exterior or grey. Mind you, I'd take a dark blue interior too. :-) To me, the very worst thing you can do to a ca

Re: [MBZ] 124 wagon hitches, etc

2007-05-20 Thread Joe Knight
I think the main issue with the 124 hitches and probably later models is the bulb out warning circuitry. Isn't it the case that without modification except for the addition of lights the bulb out warning system will go wonky? Maybe not so much an issue with earlier models.. -joe

Re: [MBZ] OT: Aww man...

2007-05-20 Thread Wonko the Sane
No, not a smart charger but I never overcharged the battery using it. I've even used it on my Benz a time or two, overnight. ... I now have two Battery Tender Plus units that I use instead. http://www.batteryweb.com/schumacher-charger-detail.cfm?Model=MC-1 They've changed the case a bit but it i

Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread E M
My taste isn't the best at times either. I always thought it would be great to have a Ferrari 400i with oxe blood interior and dark blue exterior or grey. Mind you, I'd take a dark blue interior too. :-) To me, the very worst thing you can do to a car is chrome the wheels. When I see chrome w

Re: [MBZ] 190E 2.6

2007-05-20 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 19 May 2007 20:27:37 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > < > it get?>> > > > My 89 190 2.6 mileage was 20-28 on premium. Of course, it wasn't a rat. What's a rat? Craig

Re: [MBZ] diesel advantages

2007-05-20 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 19 May 2007 20:22:48 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > < > equivalent vehicles.>> > > > Depends on which equivalent vehicles you are talking about. Perhaps the > 210 diesel? > > The mileage comparison between the 123 diesel (3.0) vs gas is about that > because of that gas-hog twin cam six

[MBZ] Fwd: Parts including 4 spd manny for sale no Affiliation

2007-05-20 Thread Zoltan Finks
Don't know if this got through last night or not. It's a craigslist ad with some parts, including a 4 speed. http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/332710870.html Brian -- Forwarded message -- From: Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: May 18, 2007 11:18 PM Subject: Parts inclu

[MBZ] Carfax most kindly

2007-05-20 Thread Zoltan Finks
Looking into another one in our quest. Thanks a bunch to anyone who is willing to run a carfax! Brian ** *WDBDB22C2FF089167*

Re: [MBZ] Thrumming Gump

2007-05-20 Thread OK Don
In the wild guess category - I'd look at the fan, viscous clutch to see if any thing is loose, bent, or broken. Does Gump have a viscous fan clutch or is it direct drive? I don't remember. On 5/19/07, Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, Was driving the kid back from the gym and while playin

Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread Sunil Hari
I -want- a car with red interior. I had my eye on an 88 Volvo 740 GLE wagon - silver with red leather interior. And a 5-speed manual. Looked GOOD. Too bad I didn't have the money to buy it when I saw it. On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > <> > The Germans used to thi

Re: [MBZ] 190E 2.6

2007-05-20 Thread RELNGSON
> < get?>> > My 89 190 2.6 mileage was 20-28 on premium. Of course, it wasn't a rat. RLE ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [MBZ] diesel advantages

2007-05-20 Thread RELNGSON
> < equivalent vehicles.>> > Depends on which equivalent vehicles you are talking about. Perhaps the 210 diesel? The mileage comparison between the 123 diesel (3.0) vs gas is about that because of that gas-hog twin cam six which could manage only 16-17mpg on a good day when the NA 300D could s

Re: [MBZ] OT: Aww man...

2007-05-20 Thread Chris Kueny
Is it a 'smart' charger? If so, he may be able to make his new battery last longer with it if he keeps it charged over the winter. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback - Original Message - From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "

Re: [MBZ] OT: Aww man...

2007-05-20 Thread Chris Kueny
Sounds like new battery time. C'mon. You are going to replace it after it aggravates you to death, so just replace it now, and save the misery. Chris Kueny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 78 Chevy Custom deluxe '85 300TD '02 Subaru Outback - Original Message - From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] no accounting for taste...

2007-05-20 Thread RELNGSON
> <> > The Germans used to think that blue with red inside looked good. My first MB, a '72 250, was white with red tex. RLE > > ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [MBZ] Burgundy

2007-05-20 Thread RELNGSON
> < that is common.  Think about it - how many MBs have you seen with burgundy > interiors?>> > Burgundy was big in Pontiacs 30-40 years back. Didn't look good in them either. Could be that MB sales managers ordered cars for stock in those interior colors which seemed to run in cycles. We used