Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread Jim Cathey
I thought the venting was at the fill tube - seems there are hoses to the fill tube? That's to prevent fuel from blowing back at you while filling. It vents to the neck area, but not outside the tank. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used pa

Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread Jim Cathey
I assume my 76 300D will be similar given it too is a 115. My 115 vent is on the right side of the car, behind the bumper wraparound. 123 vents are, IIRC, underneath the car near the left-hand axle. There's a double-acting valve in the 123 vent to relieve both pressure and vacuum when either g

Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread OK Don
Maybe that will restore a collapsed tank to nearer it's original volume? On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > Hmm... > > > Maybe I could blow some air into the tank and it would force any crud out > through the vent? > > -Curt -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). __

Re: [MBZ] Diesel near $3!!!

2010-03-04 Thread Dieselhead
I have heard of $2.99.9 fuel. $3.00 fuel is here. Supposed to be $3.50 gasoline this summer. Who knows about Diesel. It ain't gonna be $2.50. SWMBO came in this afternoon with a shocker - $58 to fill the SDL with ten-cent fuel - $2.86/gal Wilton ___

Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread Mountain Man
Curt wrote: > I was going to do it tonight but maybe I'll wait until tomorrow so I can get > some pictures. Glad to have given you a good excuse not to do it tonight. I know the trumpet thingie - I've seen it, but never messed with it. I thought the venting was at the fill tube - seems there are

Re: [MBZ] Diesel near $3!!!

2010-03-04 Thread WILTON
I remember it at about 8 to 10 cents during WWII. 'Course I didn't know anything about Diesels then - really talking 'bout kerosene and fuel oil. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:30 PM Subject:

Re: [MBZ] Diesel near $3!!!

2010-03-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Station near work had $2.67 gas and $3.09 diesel. Station near home had $2.70 gas and $2.87 diesel. I had to fuel the 240D, guess who was sleeping and didn't fuel up when he left home... -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:29:07 -0600 From: OK Don To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Di

Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Hmm... I was going to do it tonight but maybe I'll wait until tomorrow so I can get some pictures. On a 123 car its pretty easy. The end of the vent is under the rear driver's side passenger's feet. Theres a trumpet kind of check valve thing that connects to the hard line. Here in snow country

Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Took 15 gallons when I filled up to come home, thats close enough to normal I won't worry... -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:30:14 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Almost scary Message-ID: <582386.17660...@web32805.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; c

Re: [MBZ] Diesel near $3!!!

2010-03-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I knew I should have filled my 100 gal tank on the truck when it was 2.49 OK Don wrote: I saw fuel at my "cheap" station in OKC at $2.80 today. Found another one that was still at "only" $2.70 ! On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:18 PM, WILTON wrote: SWMBO came in this afternoon with a shocker - $5

Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
looks to me like you were running out of fuel, the guages on those are not always accurate. Curt Raymond wrote: On the road this morning I'd just changed from RT 2 west to 495 north and made the shift into 3rd in my '83 240D when all of a sudden I had no power. Checked the fuel gauge and real

Re: [MBZ] Is this conversion waaaaaaaay to much trouble?

2010-03-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, you will have to swap out the exhaust, and yes, the rear end is different Jim Cathey wrote: Are there major problems inherent in this conversion, What are they? Don't the turbo and NA use different rear-end ratios? (And thus a different speedometer gearing.) The exhaust system will be

Re: [MBZ] Is this conversion waaaaaaaay to much trouble?

2010-03-04 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Should drop right in although you would probably need the turbo radiator and oil cooler. Marshall Field wrote: Car is a pristine '80 300D Non turbo with a blown engine. Up for consideration would be dropping in a complete 617 turbo and transmission package into this chasis. Has anyone done thi

Re: [MBZ] Oil Pressure Question

2010-03-04 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
I have a 95 E320 wagon with about 100k miles now... for as long as I've owned it (4 years, 30k miles) the oil pressure has been high as you describe. Only when the engine is fully warmed after driving does the idle oil pressure drop to about 2.5 bar. I run 0w40 mobil 1 at 7500 changes. Perhaps i

Re: [MBZ] Diesel near $3!!!

2010-03-04 Thread John Freer
So, to be fair, what was premium gas going for at the same station? Gas right now is over 3.10/gallon around here. On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:18 PM, WILTON wrote: > SWMBO came in this afternoon with a shocker - $58 to fill the SDL with > ten-cent fuel - $2.86/gal > > Wilton > _

Re: [MBZ] Diesel near $3!!!

2010-03-04 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Wish I could fill both of mine for 2.86/gallon; it's 2.97-2.99 near me. I remember 15 cent diesel fuel-when gas was 24.9. Only 35 years ago IIRC.. Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@oki

Re: [MBZ] Diesel near $3!!!

2010-03-04 Thread OK Don
I saw fuel at my "cheap" station in OKC at $2.80 today. Found another one that was still at "only" $2.70 ! On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:18 PM, WILTON wrote: > SWMBO came in this afternoon with a shocker - $58 to fill the SDL with > ten-cent fuel - $2.86/gal > > Wilton > _

[MBZ] Diesel near $3!!!

2010-03-04 Thread WILTON
SWMBO came in this afternoon with a shocker - $58 to fill the SDL with ten-cent fuel - $2.86/gal Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or cha

Re: [MBZ] Oil Pressure Question

2010-03-04 Thread R A Bennell
-Original Message- On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Donald Snook wrote: > Mitch wrote: "Do you make fun of her for driving an incredibly ugly wagon > that gets 13mpg on > the highway?" > > I have been married for 11 years, so I am smarter than that! Actually, it > does get about 17 mpg o

Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread Mountain Man
Randy wrote: > Where is the vent? I assume my 76 300D will be similar given it too is a 115. Yes - I also am having the whoosh problem - on my '84 240D - I want to know more about the vent also. Thanks. Take pictures of your undercar slush experience? mao ___ h

Re: [MBZ] Oil Pressure Question

2010-03-04 Thread OK Don
Hmmm - I was thinking about getting a 4WD vehicle for some photo safaris - want to trade for a '91 300E? Seems pretty even to me On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Donald Snook wrote: > Mitch wrote: "Do you make fun of her for driving an incredibly ugly wagon > that gets 13mpg on > the highway

Re: [MBZ] WOW! This is nasty and a real shame to do this.

2010-03-04 Thread R A Bennell
My sister in law had a "Shelby" K car. It had been butchered before she got it and had the tame 4 cylinder with no turbo. It was awful. My father in law found it for her and did her no favour when he did so. Her brother and I patched it up enough so that she could sell it after the head gasket bl

Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread R A Bennell
Where is the vent? I assume my 76 300D will be similar given it too is a 115. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:32 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread Curt Raymond
I should add that this is a problem that has been coming on for awhile now, the cap has been making increasingly ominous "whoosh" noises at each fillup for some time now. I've just not wanted to lay in the slush to clean the vent... -Curt Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:45:30 -0500 From: "Scott Ritche

Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Ehh, $400 car Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:07:21 -0500 From: Mitch Haley To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Almost scary Message-ID: <4b8fcca9.9080...@voyager.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: > Ahhh, tank vent... > Whew, that wa

Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
I had similar behavior when my pre-filter was plugging up - it would lose power when the tank was low, but it didn't self-heal like yours. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey Sent: Thursday, March 0

Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Curt, could be filter gunk that passed thru-I had that happen in my 240D once. Then really plugged up a few days later. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles.  1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mer

Re: [MBZ] Thrown rod on non-turbo MB diesel...How common?

2010-03-04 Thread R A Bennell
Friend had a late model Toyota 4Runner with mimimal miles on it. Stopped at a light one day and the engine shut down. Would not restart. Crankshaft broke. Fault from the factory was the best guess. It just quietly broke into a few pieces and fell into the oil pan without damaging anything because

Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread Scott Ritchey
If it's the vent, things should suddenly get normal when you open the fuel cap. On the other hand it may be crud in the tank that gets sucked up against the tank screen, blocking furl flow. What does the under-hood clear fuel filter look like? If you see grit there you'll probably need to clean

Re: [MBZ] Injectors - 91 300D (602 engine)

2010-03-04 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
The only thing I've read lately is one person's report that a set of Bosch nozzles from Austria were better than a set from India, but that the quality had improved. The Classic Center / Tom Hanson maintains that the star-marked injectors are higher in quality than aftermarket Bosch rebuilds. For

Re: [MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Ahhh, tank vent... Whew, that was almost scary for a minute. I'll pull the tank vent and clean it good tonight. Hope your tank is still the same size it was before... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.

[MBZ] Almost scary

2010-03-04 Thread Curt Raymond
On the road this morning I'd just changed from RT 2 west to 495 north and made the shift into 3rd in my '83 240D when all of a sudden I had no power. Checked the fuel gauge and realized it was below 1/4. Uh oh, plugged fuel filters? I pulled to the side of the road and the engine would barely run

Re: [MBZ] Thrown rod on non-turbo MB diesel...How common?

2010-03-04 Thread Curt Raymond
Gads now I want something with a thrown rod just to try that... -Curt Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:42:43 -0800 From: Jim Cathey To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Thrown rod on non-turbo MB diesel...How common? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > W

Re: [MBZ] Oil Pressure Question

2010-03-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Donald Snook wrote: I need to replace the tires soon and I am not looking forward to spending $800 on it. 265/70R17? http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Grabber+HTS&partnum=67SR7GRHTS http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Road+Venture+

Re: [MBZ] Oil Pressure Question

2010-03-04 Thread Curt Raymond
I've been using cheap 15w40 in my 240D as well. The 190D gets M1 5w40 changed at 12,000 miles but the 240D leaks way too much for Mobil 1 to make any kind of sense... -Curt Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 20:11:04 -0600 From: Peter Hertzing To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil Pressure Q

Re: [MBZ] Injectors - 91 300D (602 engine)

2010-03-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: If you have the time/inclination, take apart and clean up the injectors and then take them to a Bosch shop for testing and balancing. More labor and more time, but you might save a few dollars and my own opinion is that the original injecto

Re: [MBZ] Oil Pressure Question

2010-03-04 Thread Donald Snook
Mitch wrote: "Do you make fun of her for driving an incredibly ugly wagon that gets 13mpg on the highway?" I have been married for 11 years, so I am smarter than that! Actually, it does get about 17 mpg on the highway and she loves that big old SUV. It really is still pretty nice. Leather an

Re: [MBZ] WOW! This is nasty and a real shame to do this.

2010-03-04 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: > Was that a popshot at the Lebaron! > My parents have a "his and hers" pair, an 82 and an 89 repectivly, so I'm > understandably biased. :) > Of all the K-cars, I always thought the LeBaron convertible was the only decent-looking one. The

[MBZ] Fun read

2010-03-04 Thread Rich Thomas
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870434575095970909247434.html?mod=WSJ_Books_LS_Books_5 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or chang

Re: [MBZ] Injectors - 91 300D (602 engine)

2010-03-04 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
If you have the time/inclination, take apart and clean up the injectors and then take them to a Bosch shop for testing and balancing. More labor and more time, but you might save a few dollars and my own opinion is that the original injectors are probably higher in quality than most of the rebuild

Re: [MBZ] Is this conversion waaaaaaaay to much trouble?

2010-03-04 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Why not do it right, and install a manual four or five speed along with the turbo engine? That path has been well trodden... I'd recommend the usual (having donor and recipient side by side), and I'd also recommend taking the transmission and rear-end from the donor as well. Transmissions are se

[MBZ] Injectors - 91 300D (602 engine)

2010-03-04 Thread LarryT
Hi Gang - Once I finish the DVs I'll probably tackle the prechambers - even though I'm told leaving them to leak a little is not a big deal, I'd like them fixed. When I do the chambers, will obviously have the injectors out - is it better to have my old injectors pop tested and matched or buy

Re: [MBZ] WOW! This is nasty and a real shame to do this.

2010-03-04 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
No, it was a popshot at the integrity and fashion sense of the Ebay seller. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Walt Zarnoch Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 11:21 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] '05 E320 Fuel Pump Issues

2010-03-04 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Had a similar leak but no pump issues in Wife's Infiniti; it was a crack in the plastic cover for fuel gauge / pump with electrical pass-through. Very apparent when held up to strong light. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]

Re: [MBZ] Is this conversion waaaaaaaay to much trouble?

2010-03-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: Are there major problems inherent in this conversion, What are they? Don't the turbo and NA use different rear-end ratios? (And thus a different speedometer gearing.) The exhaust system will be wrong, too. Other than that, I suppose it ought to just work! I believe the d