Re: [MBZ] crash safety

2010-07-27 Thread E M
We used to say the 008Rs had so much grip, they could pull the frame off the body in a corner. lol Ed 300E On 27 July 2010 20:54, OK Don wrote: > Someone had Goodyear Blue Streak racing tires on a Volvo 544 back in the > '70s at a local autocross - went too fast iinto a corner and tipped it on

Re: [MBZ] crash safety

2010-07-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Yeah, you do want some roll oversteer to let you know when you are getting into the danger zone. W115 chassis cars are known to un-mount the outside front tire in extreme cornering with no warning at all -- rear anti-roll bar is too stiff. It's lighter in the W123 and later chassis designs

Re: [MBZ] sheared off bolt in knuckle

2010-07-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Hmmm. Not familiar with the setup, but likely drilling out the bolt will let an e-z-out pull the remnants. Which bolt? There is no bolt holding a W124 ball joint in, they press in. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okie

Re: [MBZ] suburban ac update

2010-07-27 Thread Peter Frederick
I personally never discount operator error, since I've done more than a few knuckle-headed things in my life. I would check to make sure there is no possibility that you are drawing air into the pump while charging. Sounds strange, but if you had a leak somewhere that allows the pump to i

Re: [MBZ] ummm, ok

2010-07-27 Thread OK Don
Sounds like a single row chain 380SL that ate the valves --- On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > > > > > > >1982 Mercedes 320 SL Ford 5.0 Powered > > Date: 2010-07-26, 10:52PM > > 1982 Mercedes 32

Re: [MBZ] crash safety

2010-07-27 Thread OK Don
Someone had Goodyear Blue Streak racing tires on a Volvo 544 back in the '70s at a local autocross - went too fast iinto a corner and tipped it on its side. While I do agree autocross is a great way to learn, as are DE events at a > track, I would ban really sticky tires, in all but the most expe

[MBZ] sheared off bolt in knuckle

2010-07-27 Thread brian toscano
I was removing the bolt in the bottom of my Subaru steering knuckle this evening with an impact wrench and it sheared off the bolt head. This setup is somewhat similar to the way a Mercedes ball joint stud is secured in the bottom of a 124/201 knuckle. It make me wonder if I was wrong to use air

[MBZ] ummm, ok

2010-07-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Original Message Subject:1982 Mercedes 320 SL Ford 5.0 Powered - $4950 (Cabot) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:25:04 -0700 (PDT) From: okieb...@striplin.net To: okieb...@striplin.net okieb...@striplin.net has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see b

Re: [MBZ] suburban ac update

2010-07-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have everything I need except for the scale, so worse case I can charge from cans. Brian Toscano wrote: I have tank, scale, gauges, and vacuum pump if you want to try a different system? Regards, -Original Message- From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Dat

Re: [MBZ] suburban ac update

2010-07-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I think its because of the leaking valves, which he told me about. Mitch Haley wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: I suspect it is leaking and pulling air into the tank, and then filling the system with a mixture of air and freon. That would be a good reason to sell a machine, wouldn't it? Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] suburban ac update

2010-07-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
no joke. I am suspecting the problem is the machine, or operator error. Peter Frederick wrote: I hope so, chasing down strange AC problems in the middle of the summer looses it's attractions pretty fast! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used p

Re: [MBZ] suburban ac update

2010-07-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If the tank valves are leakign, could that do it? BTW, I had it sitting in a vacuum all n ight, and checked it this morning and the bottle has not leaked any vacuum. Maybe it leaks under pressure but not in a vacuum? I do know when it has refrigerant in it, when you turn the valves on as you

Re: [MBZ] suburban ac update

2010-07-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I wonder how air got in there if that is the case. When the machine is is recycle, its supposed to purge the air out of the tank. I can hear it doing it. I will play with it some more and figure out what is going on. Peter Frederick wrote: Air does not condense, and the presence of any subst

Re: [MBZ] Dip Stick Tube 91 300D

2010-07-27 Thread Mitch Haley
John Reames wrote: That all sounds great, until you realize that the way ... Positive pressure... Is maintained is by the drain being partially or completely closed... I don't think I like necrosis! Is that why they say contact your physician after four hours? Mitch. __

Re: [MBZ] Dip Stick Tube 91 300D

2010-07-27 Thread John Reames
That all sounds great, until you realize that the way ... Positive pressure... Is maintained is by the drain being partially or completely closed... I don't think I like necrosis! -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 27, 2010, at 18:05, Mitch Hale

Re: [MBZ] Dip Stick Tube 91 300D

2010-07-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Larry T wrote: himself and saying "Hey, Look at me!" 6 hours and counting! clunk as the guy falls to the floor. Shades of 'The Boner Boys' in the movie about Michigan's Naked Mile. One of the college guys gave Viagra to a couple of high school kids before the run. Those two were the hit of

Re: [MBZ] Dip Stick Tube 91 300D

2010-07-27 Thread John Reames
Ah. I fab'ed an adapter for smaller apps... I just use my scrap of 1/2 copper (hard copper water line) which fits in the top very nicely. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 27, 2010, at 17:02, Rich Thomas wrote: > Forgot to say there too, that

Re: [MBZ] Rat Patrol lives on

2010-07-27 Thread John Reames
The (stock) g290td's and first gen sprinters used an om602.98x, which was DI with a Bosch rotary pump. Btw, the injector doesn't have to be vertical or centered in a DI application... The engine in the fordson new major comes to mind as does the Perkins 6.354... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comca

Re: [MBZ] Dip Stick Tube 91 300D

2010-07-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Forgot to say there too, that a smaller tube lets you get the tube in tight places and suck stuff out of other reservoirs easily in different applications -- transmissions, PS pumps, brake fluid, etc. It might take a bit longer, but I find a nice cool refreshment is just the thing to accompany

Re: [MBZ] Dip Stick Tube 91 300D

2010-07-27 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Yes, that is how I do it-there is a tube on the electric oil sucker that I borrow that is smaller than ID of dipstick tube and goes all the way to bottom. My old topsider was that we way too-sort of like your oil test tube, Larry. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 

Re: [MBZ] Rat Patrol lives on

2010-07-27 Thread Dieselhead
There could have been some goofy milSpec that required a "special" engine rather than a stock engine. That may have lead to the use of OM602 rather than a current engine, if in fact it IS an OM602. Who knows where the truth lies. > > Peter wrote: > Very strange data there -- the stock c

Re: [MBZ] Dip Stick Tube 91 300D

2010-07-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Or you can get a smaller tube to just stick all the way down into the crankcase, whichever works for you. I think after 4 hrs I might need to find another partner...forget the medical care. --R On 7/27/2010 3:24 PM, Larry T wrote: Thanks Guys - I must have had a different hose last oil chan

Re: [MBZ] Dip Stick Tube 91 300D

2010-07-27 Thread Larry T
Thanks Guys - I must have had a different hose last oil change - it fit snugly so that must have been the case. Duct Tape it will be - I'll save the Viagra for later - Speaking of Viagra - My wife and I always laugh when the TV commercials talk about possible side effects such as: Blindness,

Re: [MBZ] Rat Patrol lives on

2010-07-27 Thread John Reames
Umm doing some digging, it looks like the 2.9L units do exist, they do use a Bosch VE pump, and they are DI (not IDI). It looks like it was used up to 2000. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 27, 2010, at 14:08, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> w

Re: [MBZ] Rat Patrol lives on

2010-07-27 Thread John Reames
I thought the 123's all used 61x engines... Some of the sprinters have om602.980's in them. The 602.983 does exist and is/was used in g-wagens made for usmc. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 27, 2010, at 14:08, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>

Re: [MBZ] Rat Patrol lives on

2010-07-27 Thread Fmiser
> > Peter wrote: > > Very strange data there -- the stock compression ratio is > > 21:1, for starters, > Dieselhead wrote: > I would guess it is a standard MB prechamber engine, but the > dufus "reporter" heard "direct injection" on some other ad, so > applied it to this article. Except, an indi

[MBZ] $2 sucker again

2010-07-27 Thread WILTON
My $2 sucker sure worked nicely to flush power steering system on my 350SDL after replacing PS pump. Wilton '91 350SDL, 195 kmi '87 300D, 118 kmi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebe

Re: [MBZ] Rat Patrol lives on

2010-07-27 Thread Dieselhead
Yes, some strange specs for the engine. As robust as the OM60x (123) series is, i would guess the newer engine used in the Sprinter (2.7L) would be closer to the actual engine used. Doesn't make sense that they would use an engine that is 2 generations old. Rotary pump does not make sense ei

Re: [MBZ] crash safety

2010-07-27 Thread John Reames
I used my street tires (bridgestone something-or-other-that-really-sucked, then Michelin primacy's)... I'm impressed with the primacy tires! I've gotten to the point where I just do what's needed when some eye-dee-ten-tee that isn't paying attention attempts to invoke evolution (either mine or

Re: [MBZ] W123 Service Manuals

2010-07-27 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote: > And also use Steve Nervig's index (on Mozilla Firefox) to make the > interface for the CD MUCH more user-friendly. > > http://web.mac.com/dakota/Mercedes/Home.html > Great link, Max, thanks!! I have been

Re: [MBZ] Rat Patrol lives on

2010-07-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Very strange data there -- the stock compression ratio is 21:1, for starters, it could only displace 2.9 if hugely bored out (it's a 2.5L engine from the factory) and I don't know how or why anyone would modify it to make it a direct injection engine -- how could you get the injector into the ce

Re: [MBZ] crash safety

2010-07-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Or my favorite MB ad from the 70's -- a W115 with a 20 ton static load sitting of the roof -- the suspension is crushed, but the doors open and close! Peter -Original Message- >From: John Reames >Sent: Jul 27, 2010 5:34 AM >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: Re: [MBZ] crash safet

Re: [MBZ] W123 Service Manuals

2010-07-27 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
And also use Steve Nervig's index (on Mozilla Firefox) to make the interface for the CD MUCH more user-friendly. http://web.mac.com/dakota/Mercedes/Home.html -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain

Re: [MBZ] W123 Service Manuals

2010-07-27 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:06 AM, SteveB wrote: > Available for free download on Piratebay.org last time I looked. You will > need to instyall a bittorrent software to download. > > Or buy the factory service manual CD-ROM for $20 and the Technical Data Book for $30-$50 from the M-B Classic Center

Re: [MBZ] W123 Service Manuals

2010-07-27 Thread SteveB
Available for free download on Piratebay.org last time I looked. You will need to instyall a bittorrent software to download. Steve On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Ed Booher wrote: > Hello all, > > What is the best source of Service Manuals? If I go directly to dealership, > they are going to

[MBZ] W123 Service Manuals

2010-07-27 Thread Ed Booher
Hello all, What is the best source of Service Manuals? If I go directly to dealership, they are going to be hundreds of dollars, correct? Anyone have a set of W123 manuals either hardcopy or digital that no longer need them? My poor 240D is in dire trouble, and I find myself thinking I may need to

Re: [MBZ] crash safety

2010-07-27 Thread E M
Autocross is a great way to find the limits of a car, and yours, in a safe environment. Most are amazed just how fast you get the average car to turn, and stop. Most people who crash into the back of things, often have quite a bit of braking capability left in the car, as they plow into the other

Re: [MBZ] Profiles in Mileage: Irv Gordon, the 2.8 Million Mile Man

2010-07-27 Thread E M
That's a great story. The car has traveled almost 3 million miles, but I wouldn't say it did 3 million original miles. Still a great accomplishment. The article wasn't written in a way to lead anyone to believe it was original. There have been other high mileage claims, one with an old VW Bug.

Re: [MBZ] suburban ac update

2010-07-27 Thread Brian Toscano
I have tank, scale, gauges, and vacuum pump if you want to try a different system? Regards, -Original Message- From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:43:47 To: mercedes Mailing List Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] sub

Re: [MBZ] Dip Stick Tube 91 300D

2010-07-27 Thread WILTON
My 5/8 inch OD plastic evac tube fits very nicely and extremely simply. Wilton - Original Message - From: "John Reames" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 7:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dip Stick Tube 91 300D I find that a piece of 1/2 copper fits inside the tu

[MBZ] Profiles in Mileage: Irv Gordon, the 2.8 Million Mile Man

2010-07-27 Thread Rich Thomas
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/07/irv-gordon-2-8-million-mile-volvo/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://o

Re: [MBZ] Rat Patrol lives on

2010-07-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/1005dp_us_marine_corps_g_wagen/index.html In the body of the article, it calls the G-wagon a 1 1/2 ton vehicle. Are they saying it weighs 3000lb or it can carry 3000lb? Is there really such a thing as a direct injection OM602? And wit

Re: [MBZ] approved oil list

2010-07-27 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
Have you tried "Dr. Czermin, Abteilung Betriebsstoffe (Operating Fluids department), tel.:+49-711-17-54741, email: christian.czer...@daimler.com if necessary." listed as the POC at the bottom of your email? I'll query Tom Hanson / Classic Center and see if he can help dig this up. -Max -Ori

Re: [MBZ] suburban ac update

2010-07-27 Thread John Reames
Any air in the system will drive the pressures up. Air is pretty much incompressible (with respect to condensing under pressure) in an air conditioning system. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 26, 2010, at 21:42, Mitch Haley wrote: > > When

Re: [MBZ] Dip Stick Tube 91 300D

2010-07-27 Thread John Reames
I find that a piece of 1/2 copper fits inside the tube nicely, and just have a band of heater hose pushed up on it to act as a seal. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 26, 2010, at 19:12, "Larry T" wrote: > Hi All - > I went to attach my vacu

Re: [MBZ] suburban ac update

2010-07-27 Thread John Reames
I don't think so... It has something to do with DOT certification... -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 26, 2010, at 19:43, "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Well this weekend I pulled the system apart, I dont know if there was > anything wrong with

Re: [MBZ] crash safety

2010-07-27 Thread John Reames
Autocross helps too; you learn where the handling limits are, what plasticity they have, and how to get it back within those limits when they are exceeded... So it becomes almost instinctive. The benzes seem to have a nice bit of plasticity in the limits, as compared to a s2000 which has very e

Re: [MBZ] crash safety

2010-07-27 Thread John Reames
I was driving through a highway construction zone in Connecticut (during a snowstorm), and did not want to get between a semi and the jersey wall. When the whole space was clear to pass, I did. The nutjob NYC sedan service driver (in a Lincoln) that was behind me ... I very clearly remember lo

Re: [MBZ] crash safety

2010-07-27 Thread John Reames
As long as you keep them sunny-side up. When they go over hard, it takes a couple of feet off the top. Ditto for minivans. Iirc 1/3 of all single vehicle accidents in a SUV or minivan have a fatality. Compare this to the old ad photo of a c-class (w201?) sized Benz sitting on some rigging wh

Re: [MBZ] 300SD AC compressor?

2010-07-27 Thread John Reames
They seem to stretch more when exposed to PAG oil... My w123 had a leaking core in the low-side valve... Which was dripping oil onto the alternator/water pump belts... They stretched a lot and wore badly. -- John W Reames jwrea...@comcast.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jul 25, 2