We did the ITIL foundations class to get every one talking the same language
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On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:17 PM, wrote:
> I'll add a little. I took a full week course on ITIL 2.0 a few years back.
> I have my ITIL Foundations Certificate. The cla
> mao wrote:
> http://www.americantorque.com/game/car-show-50s/
Did that yesterday... 83%
Rick
Who doesn't know my '50's MOPARs very well
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I'll add a little. I took a full week course on ITIL 2.0 a few years back. I
have my ITIL Foundations Certificate. The class was given by IBM and the test
was graded and certificates issued by a college in Canada. I think now you can
get about any certificate you want for less. I know some guys
>Jerry wrote"
>
> Rick, could you please expand on the reasons for recommending premium fuel
> and Seafoam? Would this apply to four stroke engines? My four stroke surges
> just like Allan described, and I've often wondered why.
My small engine guys recommendation. Premium is less likely to hav
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"Jerry Herrman" writes:
> Rick, could you please expand on the reasons for recommending premium
> fuel and Seafoam?
My guess, premium is less likely to contain ethanol, though around here
you can find 87 octane without ethanol. Not sure about the seafoam.
Allan
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Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes:
> Yeah, The old lawnboys are keepers.
>
> I bought a 30 yr old one from the neighbor and used it for years with
> no problems, other than it was a hassle to keep mixed gas.
Funny, I purposely bought a two-stroke because I didn't want the hassle
of changin
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MY recollection is that the OM615 and early 617 have a smaller can
than the OM621. It is in essence, a fram C3 filter size. I never
changed oil on a 615, and Randy should be able to confirm this. I
think it is the same as the 621, where the oil filter cartridge is
only the bypass filter. Th
All the reports are coming from comcast clients. of course, that is
not a pattern. As Woger said, it HAS to be your problem. So get
with it! Woger knows all. Woger is never wrong.
We are not associated with comcast at all. Something is up with the
spam filters though as I have had to a
Yeah, The old lawnboys are keepers.
I bought a 30 yr old one from the neighbor and used it for years with
no problems, other than it was a hassle to keep mixed gas. I wanted
a bagger for it to chew up the mountains of leaves . Bags were NLA.
I could not find a used one that was adaptable ei
I didn't think so after looking over some of the test prep stuff. Mostly looks
like procedural sort if things, many of which are common sense things.
Dan
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On Apr 28, 2011, at 10:04 PM, OK Don wrote:
> Work sent a bunch of us to a 3 day ITIL V3 foundations course a year or tw
Are you white?
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On 4/28/2011 9:15 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
How would I know if I've been added to the whitelist? I have never
asked to be, that's all I can tell you.
Allan
"Kaleb C. Striplin" writes:
We are not associated with comcast at all. Something is up with the
spam filters thoug
My old Homelite chainsaw was acting like that, I think the pickup hose
in the tank was softened up and collapsing on sucking fuel -- probably a
benefit of ethanol in the gas. If your gas has ethanol in it, there is
no telling what troubles it might cause.
--R
On 4/28/2011 8:53 PM, Walt Zarno
I put C rated 0w-40 M1 in my old SDL for winter use. It was
terrible. Oil consumption went way up. Noise went way up.My
OM603 was a happy camper with I replaced enough of the 0 stuff with
15w-50 M1.After I got the oil changed back to the 15w-50 it was
happy agian. I have used the C
OK I like to position my vast land holdings as an estancia, it sounds
exotic and few have a clue as to what it means. Everywhere in America
is Spanish America these days, so I have that aspect covered.
The guys on the trucks were not what I would classify as engineers or
network techs, they w
Today is Porsche's 80th birthday.
The Porsche engineering office was founded by Ferdinand Porsche on April
25, 1931. The forefather to all Porsche sportscars, the Porsche 64 racing car
was made in 1939. In 1948 F.Porsche's son Ferdinand Anton Ernst "Ferry"
Porsche started the production of Por
There is something to be said for something with 30lb-ft at the muzzle without
using any sort of powder...
That might deal with groundhogs at short-mid range...
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On Apr 28, 2011, at 21:46, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.
Yah, it was, although beeman quit handling them about the time they went to the
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On Apr 28, 2011, at 19:27, Mitch Haley wrote:
> John Reames wrote:
>> You mean like the beeman kodiak .25 (NLA)?
>
> Kodiak wa
I don't think it does - completely different filter set-up. Isn't there a
thermostatically controlled valve for the oil cooler? If it's stuck closed,
that oil could get real hot = thin.
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Maybe, I was trying to remember if those have the o
Rick Knoble writes:
> Running a higher percentage of oil to fuel will cause a two stroke to run
> lean.
Hm, that could be it, I had to use some gas left from last fall; it was
in a sealed container but potentially some of the gas evaporated and
concentrated the oil in the remaning mixture. It
Work sent a bunch of us to a 3 day ITIL V3 foundations course a year or two
ago. They covered a lot of ground, but it's mostly learning the terminology.
We had 100% pass rate for 40 people - can't be too hard. No one has gone on
to the other certs that I know, so can't comment on them.
One guy read
I understand. I just rebel at the $350 price tag for a pellet gun.
When I was a kid the Daisy bb gun was $20 to $25, and a pellet gun
was $35 to $50
But then I guess if you use cars or fuel for comparison, the pellet
gun is a bargain. The Ruger 10/22 is a way better bargain,
especially sinc
Maybe, I was trying to remember if those have the o ring deal like the later
cars
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On Apr 28, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
>
>> I have never heard of bearings wearing out on one of those,
>> usually the rings would wear out first and it would just loose
>> compressi
Allan wrote:
> I have one that's about 9-10 years old. It surges, i.e. revs up, slows
> down, over and over. Wondering how to adjust whatever is trying to
> regulate the engine speed.
Use premium fuel.
Use Seafoam in the fuel.
Use the correct ratio of oil to fuel.
Adjust mixture screw.
Running a
> I have never heard of bearings wearing out on one of those,
> usually the rings would wear out first and it would just loose
> compression. The usual cause of bearing problems is it leaks oil
> and they let it run out and it causes problems, but then you get
> noise. This car has no noise at all
no, they are not, my new 115 has them, I wish it has hub caps.
On 4/28/2011 8:14 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2347226374.html
Looks rusty down along the rockers. What's with the bundt wheels, those
aren't original are they?
Allan
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"Kaleb C. Striplin" writes:
> We are not associated with comcast at all. Something is up with the
> spam filters though as I have had to add several people to the white
> list late
http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2347226374.html
Looks rusty down along the rockers. What's with the bundt wheels, those
aren't original are they?
Allan
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Walt Zarnoch wrote:
Likely needs a carb clean-out, possibly a rebuild kit.
They're GREAT mowers, ours will chow down on waist high grass and not even care!
Lean running is NOT good for 2-strokes. Have the carburetor looked at pronto.
Any mechanically governed engine, 2 or 4 stroke, is likely t
http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2345070134.html
Price is in crackhead territory though.
Allan
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Yea, I have done the math. I REALLY need to get some cars crushed.
On 4/28/2011 7:21 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
Jaime wrote:
Are scrap steel prices really so high these days?
Yes. All commodity prices are rising. I won't list causes, to avoid a debate.
http://scrapmetalpricesandauctions.com/201
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white list lately. Have I added you to the white list yet?
On 4/28/2011 6:55 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
Latest rejection attempting to email the list.
Kaleb, is th
The last car I took to the crusher a couple of weeks ago was a 124
wagon and it was just a bare shell, no engine, no nothing and it
was $200. He might be able to get 4-500 at the crusher if it
included the engine etc so the eight is up. Its $200 a ton down
here, I would guess more up your way
I think he checked and it was going to be over 1k to get it home.
Then there would be the expense of the engine repair if indeed it
needs it.
On 4/28/2011 11:09 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
Bad news for all but Kleb I guess. I think the owner should have
stored it with one of the folks who offere
I have never heard of bearings wearing out on one of those,
usually the rings would wear out first and it would just loose
compression. The usual cause of bearing problems is it leaks oil
and they let it run out and it causes problems, but then you get
noise. This car has no noise at all, not
Likely needs a carb clean-out, possibly a rebuild kit.
They're GREAT mowers, ours will chow down on waist high grass and not even care!
Walt
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
> I have one that's about 9-10 years old. It surges, i.e. revs up, slows
> down, over and over. Wond
Did you fix the drivers seat?
On 4/28/2011 9:01 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote:
Jaime, my 1968 280SEL is for sale. The Jabba car. If you have
any interest give me a call and I can tell you all the pluses
and minuses. It has been a daily driver ever since I bought it
from Gary and I have done quite a
I have one that's about 9-10 years old. It surges, i.e. revs up, slows
down, over and over. Wondering how to adjust whatever is trying to
regulate the engine speed.
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:18:16 -0400 Rich Thomas
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> So yesterday out in the road in front of the estancia
es·tan·cia (es tän′syä)
noun
a large estate, esp. a cattle ranch, in Spanish America
> were about 5 or 6 ATT trucks stretched out for a half mile or so,
> pumping wa
> Jaime wrote:
> Are scrap steel prices really so high these days?
Yes. All commodity prices are rising. I won't list causes, to avoid a debate.
http://scrapmetalpricesandauctions.com/2011/02/auto-scrap-salvage-prices-feb-4-2011/
http://www.fairsalvage.com/fscprices_montcalm.htm
At $250 for
Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
Sadly, the NJ car will be going to scrap. I just spoke with the guy and
offered $200, he said he could get $500 for scrap. $500 sounds like a lot
to me. Are scrap steel prices really so high these days?
Around $280 a ton here.
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Mail Delivery System writes:
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>
> Deliver
I am surprised, as scrap prices down here are around $200 for a complete
vehicle you can get more than that for AC condensers.
Dan
--- On Thu, 4/28/11, Allan Streib wrote:
> From: Allan Streib
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1967 Mercedes-Benz - $1500 (Bethany, CT)
> To: "Mercedes Discussio
John Reames wrote:
You mean like the beeman kodiak .25 (NLA)?
Kodiak was a Webley Patriot, wasn't it?
Mitch.
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Jaime Kopchinski writes:
> Are scrap steel prices really so high these days?
One reason they might be is energy prices. Recycling steel takes a
fraction of the energy of mining ore and smelting new steel. That could
be making scrap steel worth more.
Allan
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Sadly, the NJ car will be going to scrap. I just spoke with the guy and
offered $200, he said he could get $500 for scrap. $500 sounds like a lot
to me. Are scrap steel prices really so high these days?
It really upsets me... lots of great parts on that car. I just don't have
the place to star
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=276
07 Accords appear to score fairly well.
Randy
On 28/04/2011 5:09 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
Yes but they are extremely unsafe cars!
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On Apr 28, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
Maybe, but it is pretty har
So yesterday out in the road in front of the estancia were about 5 or 6
ATT trucks stretched out for a half mile or so, pumping water out of
their conduits and doing something else unclear (maybe pulling other
cable). Today my DSL modem seems to have been quite well behaved.
Coincidence?
--R
Yes but they are extremely unsafe cars!
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 28, 2011, at 12:43 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
Maybe, but it is pretty hard to beat a Honda Accord for being a nice small
reliable car. My good wife drives an 07 Accord 4 cylinder. Lots of pep, pretty
good mileage and nothing to
Yeah. Real quiet in a bolt action. You'll hear the critter squawk over the
shot. (prob because they are subsonic)
Btw mossberg made som bull-barreled .22 bolts for civil marksmanship
training... Of course there are no scope provisions.
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You mean like the beeman kodiak .25 (NLA)?
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On Apr 27, 2011, at 19:33, Mitch Haley wrote:
> Randy Bennell wrote:
>> Got any recommendations on what sort of pellet gun to buy?
>
> This is the sweetest little gun around
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> ...I thought the problem has always been on the aol end of things.
> The 'other' list has had that problem forever.
> FB finally switched to a gmail email addy...
>
AOL is just my mail program. My ISP is Comcast.
RLE
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Yes, little 1/2 long bullets that make very little noise when fired.
Still go a long way however. I have shot off of the hill, out over the
bay, when the lake was smooth and they go probably a half mile. You can
see them hit the water way out.
Might wear shorts too if it is warm enough and the
The militia is training to fight the New World Order.
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On 4/28/2011 3:10 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:34 -0700, "Curt Raymond" wrote:
Still in a dense urban area a pellet gun ensures neighborhood tranquility.
Out here in our wooded neighborhood I heard machine-gun fire,
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:34 -0700, "Curt Raymond" wrote:
> Still in a dense urban area a pellet gun ensures neighborhood tranquility.
Out here in our wooded neighborhood I heard machine-gun fire, or at least
semi-auto with a very quick trigger finger, last weekend. I think someone out
here has
Shooting with shorts??
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
> In Canada we have long gun registry. I am looking for something that will
> dispatch squirrels but not require registration. Also, the cottage is within
> a town area that does not permit shooting. We have been using
Not all that cheap, I bet you'll pay over a hundred...
Can only shoot .22 long rifle in them, not so good in an urban context.
A single shot bolt action is more useful for urban varmint warfare. My Dad has
been collecting "boy's rifles" for some time now, won't pay more than $100 for
one. The be
Well that's better, but when I tried 0w40 M1 in my OM617 the hot idle
pressure did drop a bit. It was still within spec, but noticeably lower
than with the 20w50.
Allan
Jaime Kopchinski writes:
> Dealers run 0w40 or 5w40 in the new cars.
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Allan S
Bad ground somewhere.
glenn brown writes:
> After obtaining a '85 300TD from my brother last fall and the CC wasn't
> working, I opened it up, resoldered the PC board, and got it working but
> hadn't taken any trips until last week to notice this oddity. The darn thin
> surges when the turn
Did the second half (practical) of my CompTIA A+ exam today.
Passed (790 out of 900) but found this part tougher than the first section.
Mainly because there was a lot of stuff on Vista, which I have never worked
with, especially the directory structures. That was probably what pulled my
scor
Maybe, but it is pretty hard to beat a Honda Accord for being a nice
small reliable car. My good wife drives an 07 Accord 4 cylinder. Lots of
pep, pretty good mileage and nothing to do but change the oil periodically.
Bought it used about a year old and have been happy so far. She loves
it. I do
In Canada we have long gun registry. I am looking for something that
will dispatch squirrels but not require registration. Also, the cottage
is within a town area that does not permit shooting. We have been using
a little single shot 22 with shorts but I would feel more legally
justified with p
any chance the vehicle was run with BioDiesel? i've seen that stuff
really thin out some less robust oils because of its solvency, even
though it doesn't discolor the oil as much because there's no
particulate matter...
i think i'd change the oil to make sure it's got the proper stuff
in
some of the WVO i see people making BioD out of now is pretty amazing;
starts as at least 50% food crud as well, and then they still have to
deal with the glycerin that comes out during the processing,... doesn't
look like any of these processes come without their good waste products.
cheers!
Bad news for all but Kleb I guess. I think the owner should have stored
it with one of the folks who offered a spot, long enough to arrange
some manner of having it hauled the rest of the way to Montreal.
I know some folks who suffered an engine failure in a reasonably late
model Chevy picku
The dealer changed the oil and put somethingW-40, probably zeroW-40 if I had to
guess. The next day, when Silver Star opened the filter, they found bearing
shavings. I don't think they change it, but I do think Luc bought some Rotella.
Oil pressure was down to below .5 bar hot, and would only p
My 76 115 300D oil pressure drops down pretty low at idle when the car
is hot too. When cold it pegs and when at speeds above idle it is fine.
I run 15-40 Rotella oil.
I have put about 10K miles on it and things have not changed at all to
my recollection.
It does become black immediately a
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:
> Nothing like buying a re-badged camry at twice or more the cost...
>
Agreed... the original LS400 was a technological and design milestone,
but it's pretty telling that until they started making SUVs the
best-selling Lexus by far was the ES,
Grounds are dirty, or the alternator is weak. Those are my guesses.
Walt
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:19 AM, glenn brown wrote:
>
> After obtaining a '85 300TD from my brother last fall and the CC wasn't
> working, I opened it up, resoldered the PC board, and got it working but
> hadn't taken an
After obtaining a '85 300TD from my brother last fall and the CC wasn't
working, I opened it up, resoldered the PC board, and got it working but hadn't
taken any trips until last week to notice this oddity. The darn thin surges
when the turn signals are in operation. Anybody got a clue? TIA.
Had one coon that learned to slide open the small basement window and
roost in the basement. I'd shut the window and come back and find it
open again. Went down with a 22, a flashlight and a couple of
shorts. found the two beady little eyes. Put a short in its brain.
It flopped down to the
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:47 AM, LWB250 wrote:
> Buy it anyway.
Very tempting, but no. Would cost me $1,000 in gas just to drive it
from Atlanta to the West Coast, plus a few nights in motels, food,
plane tickets, etc
Alex
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Sent: Thu
My first concours restoration was a W108 1970 280SE European sedan, Arabian
grey with a parchment MB Tex interior, PW, PS, no sunroof. Over 4 years I
fixed up everything, even the AC. Getting it to run cool was the greatest
challenge. Loved driving it at night to see the cool colored dash lights
Hoy cow, Batman!
Check out this collections of videos from yesterday's tornadoes:
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> There were raccoons living in the
> attic of the house next door...
About 14 years ago we had that problem. I saw a coon sitting up in
the attic next to the chimney, so I let it lay asleep.
That Spring, there was some noticeable commotion in the attic, so I
sent one of my sons up to
Heater core is a nightmare on 108s and 114/115s. Those are the ones they were
reputed to have hung the heater/AC up and built the car around, as the saying
goes.
Easy fix: Bypass it and drive it in the summer.
Fuel pump is relatively straightforward.
Buy it anyway. 108s are cool cars, especia
RLE wrote:
> I just had another "permanent fatal errors" message (with a normal content)
> to the list come back to me.
>
> Kaleb, you need to fix this because the trouble is on your end.
I thought the problem has always been on the aol end of things.
The 'other' list has had that problem forever.
Rusty wrote:
> I have over 8k in it. It goes to the 1st
> person with $2500.00.
Which means you got $5500 enjoyment - must be a joy at that price.
Nice.
mao
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Does the message mention comcast.net? I'm thinking it's actually their
problem, if yours is the same "your message appears to be part of a spam
bomb" that I get, but only when I'm sending from my home computer
(Comcast cable internet).
relng...@aol.com writes:
> I just had another "permanent fat
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote:
> Heater core needs
> to be replaced. Needs fuel pump.
How hard are those jobs? Parts prices?
Alex
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No. The engine has been completely rebuilt. Every moving part but the
crankshaft was replaced. The a/c works. New heater levers (genuine
Mercedes). New brakes, pads, discs, calipers, master cylinder, (including
fluid). New steering parts. New Michelin tires. New suspension. Rebuilt
injection pu
Has the driver seat been replaced/reinforced?
--R
On 4/28/2011 10:01 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote:
Jaime, my 1968 280SEL is for sale. The Jabba car. If you have any
interest give me a call and I can tell you all the pluses and minuses.
It has been a daily driver ever since I bought it from Gary and
I had thought of that, but I think they had become so habituated to
people being around that it just didn't care. There were raccoons
living in the attic of the house next door, one year a mama with 3
babies that would come out every evening and ramble over to our patio to
poke around. No fea
Last time I checked, the pellet guns were more expensive than a cheap
.22 So I always just used a .22 with CB or BB caps
An old bolt-action rifle and a box of CB's.
Shoot from inside, through open door/window.
Cheap and highly effective. Just the ticket!
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Jaime, my 1968 280SEL is for sale. The Jabba car. If you have any interest
give me a call and I can tell you all the pluses and minuses. It has been a
daily driver ever since I bought it from Gary and I have done quite a bit of
mechanical work to it.
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could not be bothered to open the door to shoot interior shots?
On 4/28/2011 6:43 AM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
Hm... this looks worth saving!
I'll been looking for another early W108 for a while, perhaps I'll take a
look.
I looked at this one this week:
http://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/2341125922.
Am having strange issues viewing the 123 contents as well..
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:35 PM, OK Don wrote:
> The 201 manuals work for me --
> Thanks Kaleb!
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Walt Zarnoch
> wrote:
> > Last I tried, I was getting 404 errors when trying to view anything on
> > t
Yes!
But the #1 rod will be the indicator. When bearings on an iron OM
fail, #1 rod is the first/worst.
Would it be the rod bearings or main bearings that would cause low
oil pressure?
On 4/27/2011 9:44 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
I'd guess the dealer used 0-20 or something like that. nobody at
Would it be the rod bearings or main bearings that would cause low
oil pressure?
On 4/27/2011 9:44 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
I'd guess the dealer used 0-20 or something like that. nobody
at a stealership lasts long enough to know about a 124, much
less a 115. By now, even a 210 is unknown by stea
Hm... this looks worth saving!
I'll been looking for another early W108 for a while, perhaps I'll take a
look.
I looked at this one this week:
http://cnj.craigslist.org/cto/2341125922.html
Unfortunately, it was very rusty, despite having a clean body, straight
front bumper, etc.
Jaime
On Wed,
Around here we got a saying that says: "let em think that MB is
trouble", keeps the price down ;-)
Hendrik
who likes buying cheap mercs
Dieselhead wrote:
Sheeple who buy toadas and hondogs are just lemmings. They buy them
because consumer reports and other lemming master/sheepleherders told
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