Re: [MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-29 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Had a friend who got spots of black grease on his dress pants from fixing his diesel while on a trip. He sprayed the spots with starting ether and wiped them with a rag or paper towel several times and the spots were soon gone. Been meaning to try that on two jackets soiled with black oil.

Re: [MBZ] 300E Question

2013-12-29 Thread Dan Penoff
Don't know. I'll be getting into it this afternoon, I hope. The boy is constantly on the go, so it's tough to get him to stick around long enough for me to get a chance to check things out...it's relatively cool right now (70s F) so I won't be able to recreate the conditions he describes.

[MBZ] OBDII Wireless Scanner

2013-12-29 Thread Dan Penoff
Anyone using one of the wireless OBDII devices to monitor their car's operation with a smartphone or tablet? If so, what are you using? Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig wrote: On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 10:38:36 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: http://jalopnik.com/this-is-how-mercedes-amg-hand-builds-every-single-engin-1487869406 Indeed! The level of specialized tooling is amazing, even the jig to allow the pistons to just be pushed down,

Re: [MBZ] Psychopath test

2013-12-29 Thread Mitch Haley
M. Mitchell Marmel wrote: At 9:02 PM -0600 12/27/13, Mountain Man wrote: Another test for fun. How psycho are we: psychopath.channel4.com/quizzes.html 58% here... I knew I was on the low scoring side of most of the questions, so even when I couldn't get past the demographic questions in

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Jerry Herrman wrote: Slow day here. Terrific video. He made it look easy assembling that engine. I was wondering about his level of skill. Is he just an assembler? How long would it take to become proficient at that job? IMO, he's just working as an assembler, but he could very well be

Re: [MBZ] This is getting weird 107 ABS brakes

2013-12-29 Thread Dieselhead
Good ideas. Thanks! I suspect your ABS requires higher PSI to bleed vs non-ABS. But that's hearsay and a guess, not based on my experience. I bought the rubber domes from the stealer. As I recall, they are part of the low-fluid sensor system. The old domes just pry up; they snap on or in

Re: [MBZ] This is getting weird 107 ABS brakes

2013-12-29 Thread Craig
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 01:43:46 -0500 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I suspect your ABS requires higher PSI to bleed vs non-ABS. But that's hearsay and a guess, not based on my experience. I do remember discussion from 10 or so years ago that ABS does require higher pressure to

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Dieselhead
Slow day here. Terrific video. He made it look easy assembling that engine. I was wondering about his level of skill. Is he just an assembler? Most likely How long would it take to become proficient at that job? about a week. There are probably cheater cards, or more likely, the parts are

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: At AMG, they may specify the exact sizes from the parts suppliers, (.001mm) or they have the parts picker matching pistons to bore ahead of time. Modern machining allows all cyl to be the same within .001mm and the same for pistons. Process control (SPC) and better

[MBZ] Subject: Re: Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-29 Thread RDeafBoy
Try using Awesome or Amazin sold at dollar stores . It's butyl based . This will degrease your gloves as well as any article of clothing that's been dieselized Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Peter Frederick
The Iron Duke was a European design, not a US one, which may have had something to do with the longevity (along with new, rather than 50 year old, manufacturing equipment). GM was well known for sloppy manufacture and nickel and dimeing a good design into junk by saving miniscule amounts

[MBZ] migration

2013-12-29 Thread Mitch Haley
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Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Frederick wrote: The Iron Duke was a European design, not a US one, which may have had something to do with the longevity (along with new, rather than 50 year old, manufacturing equipment). I thought it was half a 301 V-8. (and so does Wiki) You've got a point about the tooling being

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-29 Thread OK Don
Hmmm, perhaps the same leather cleaner/rejuvenater we use on leather MB seats? Leatherique? On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Watching the AMG tech assemble the V-8 engine was a delight. Hearing the shop background noises and sound of the machinery/tools

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread OK Don
I was impressed with the robot that torqued all of the head bolts at one time - On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: The level of specialized tooling is amazing, even the jig to allow the pistons to just be pushed down, compressing the rings,

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Dieselhead
Dieselhead wrote: At AMG, they may specify the exact sizes from the parts suppliers, (.001mm) or they have the parts picker matching pistons to bore ahead of time. Modern machining allows all cyl to be the same within .001mm and the same for pistons. Process control (SPC) and better

Re: [MBZ] alternative to leather. Was - Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-29 Thread Fmiser
G wrote: I believe, on close inspection, you will find the assembly guy wearing a type of work glove that is a cotton glove with the fingers and palm coated with some type of silicone like material that is both tough and oil resistant. The inside of the glove, being cotton is quite

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Scott Ritchey
I think getting their butts kicked by the Japanese may have had something to do with it, even though there were millions of Americans that would NEVER buy a Jap car. -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 11:34 AM ... Emissions warranty requirements

[MBZ] S600 eBay Deal

2013-12-29 Thread Dan Penoff
For the price it's not bad the engine is worth it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-Base-Sedan-4-Door-1999-mercedes-benz-s-600-base-sedan-4-door-6-0-l-good-/350964744018?forcerrptr=truehash=item51b720ff52item=350964744018pt=US_Cars_Trucks Dan

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread John Reames
How much of that crowd bought Geo's? (The prizm in particular)... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Dec 29, 2013, at 18:38, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: I think getting their butts kicked by the Japanese may have had something to do

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Dieselhead
That was the wake up call for sure! Frod thought they could produce a quality product by saying quality is job one, but it was not until the mid 80s when they contracted Mazda to build some transmissions for tauri, that they got a startk contrast in warranty claims, lots for frod, almost

Re: [MBZ] This is getting weird 107 ABS brakes

2013-12-29 Thread Dieselhead
When ABS is working correctly, I never noticed much difference. It may take another lb or 2 psi. I re-bled everything this afternoon. I didn't notice any air. The RF still runs slower than the others. When driving, if you apply the brakes gently, the car pulls left badly. If you brake

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Dieselhead
I never could see any need for a geo or a saturn. How much of that crowd bought Geo's? (The prizm in particular)... -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] This is getting weird 107 ABS brakes

2013-12-29 Thread Scott Ritchey
Could it be a problem with the wheel speed sensors or the controller? I've never worked on ABS but it seems that that sensor would be the most vulnerable part. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Sunday, December 29,

Re: [MBZ] This is getting weird 107 ABS brakes

2013-12-29 Thread Dieselhead
That should not restrict the flow, or prevent the flow of fluid. THe check valves are in the ABS unit. I cleaned the pickup and the rotor on both front wheels. I think the rear pickup is in the diff. Could it be a problem with the wheel speed sensors or the controller? I've never worked

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread OK Don
I wonder if the manufacturing process is good enough to produce a balanced engine without cherry picking and matching parts? I was told (don't know if it's true) that MB engines, at least back in the 61x days were dynamically balanced at the factory. I didn't see any evidence of that in the video,

[MBZ] Bentley Engine

2013-12-29 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Here's a video of the assembly of the Bentley engine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slQ9E1s1FuQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-29 Thread Fmiser
Dieselhead wrote: Neatsfoot oil is a common leather dressing, but I have seen neither a neat or its foot. (dunno what is in it) Neat is an old, old term for cow. From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/neat Definition of NEAT the common domestic bovine (Bos taurus) Origin of

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Fmiser
Dieselhead wrote: Modern machining allows all cyl to be the same within .001mm and the same for pistons. Process control (SPC) and better machines make this possible. It is the main reason why american engines routinely go 300k miles , not 40k to 120k as in the 60s. Mitch wrote:

[MBZ] MB vs. BMW

2013-12-29 Thread OK Don
Guess who wins? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY5oSik1eHs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Dieselhead
I doubt a MB of the 00s until now needs to be balanced. Probably from the 90s on. I wonder if the manufacturing process is good enough to produce a balanced engine without cherry picking and matching parts? I was told (don't know if it's true) that MB engines, at least back in the 61x days

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread rmassmann
It looked like there might have been a small LCD terminal at the one end of the engine assembly stand along with the laser scanner that was next to it. -Original Message- From: Scott Ritchey Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:38 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] Cleaning leather work gloves

2013-12-29 Thread Dwight Giles
In antique cars trucks with vacuum wipers the sweep inside motor was leather. Had to use neatsfoot oil to swell soften leather to produce enough vacuum. I carried it in my 50 dodge 1/2 ton. On Dec 29, 2013 8:20 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Dieselhead wrote: Neatsfoot oil is a

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread dseretakis
Yes the RTV robot was most impressive. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 29, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 10:38:36 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:

Re: [MBZ] MB vs. BMW

2013-12-29 Thread Dieselhead
Guess who wins? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY5oSik1eHs Tell us. after suffering through 15 seconds of ad and 12 min of blather, it popped up an ad for the magazine that covered the action and could not be dismissed, then it went to the rag's subscribe page. I went back , but it

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting upe1ujyz

2013-12-29 Thread Mitch Haley
rmassm...@embarqmail.com wrote: It looked like there might have been a small LCD terminal at the one end of the engine assembly stand along with the laser scanner that was next to it. 45 seconds into the video, he's standing at a computer terminal with a handful of papers. Then he walks away

Re: [MBZ] MB vs. BMW

2013-12-29 Thread OK Don
They do finally get to driving and comparing the cars. Of course, the MB wins. On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Guess who wins? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY5oSik1eHs Tell us. after suffering through 15 seconds of ad and 12 min of blather, it

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-29 Thread Mitch Haley
For comparison, there are 6 VW Phaetons on eBay right now, all are V8s, and only one has a current bid less than the buy it now on the S600. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] MB vs. BMW upe1ujyz

2013-12-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: Guess who wins? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY5oSik1eHs Tell us. The AMG won narrowly, but I got the idea that they liked the M5 Competition a LOT more than the regular M5. I suspect the E63 AMG would have beat the M5 by a wider margin than the E63 AMG S beat the

Re: [MBZ] MB vs. BMW

2013-12-29 Thread Craig
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 20:46:13 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Guess who wins? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY5oSik1eHs Tell us. after suffering through 15 seconds of ad and 12 min of blather, it popped up an ad for the magazine that covered the action and could not be

Re: [MBZ] MB vs. BMW

2013-12-29 Thread Dieselhead
What kind of browser are you using? I hope not IE. Safari. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] MB vs. BMW

2013-12-29 Thread Craig
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 21:39:11 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of browser are you using? I hope not IE. Safari. So you are using a Mac. Is Safari the only browser choice? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] MB vs. BMW

2013-12-29 Thread Dwight Giles
So what's the problem with using IE? On Dec 29, 2013 11:01 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 21:39:11 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of browser are you using? I hope not IE. Safari. So you are using a Mac. Is Safari the only browser

Re: [MBZ] MB vs. BMW

2013-12-29 Thread Dieselhead
So you are using a Mac. Is Safari the only browser choice? Craig no, its what I use most. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] MB vs. BMW

2013-12-29 Thread Craig
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 23:03:12 -0500 Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: So what's the problem with using IE? Other than its vulnerabilities, nothing, I suppose. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] MB vs. BMW

2013-12-29 Thread OK Don
IE worked fine on the site for me. Though the ad was annoying, it went away when I clicked the X. On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 23:03:12 -0500 Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: So what's the problem with using IE? Other

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2013-12-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 29, 2013 4:29 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I never could see any need for a geo or a saturn. What are you talking about? Nobody mentioned Saturn. The point was the hypocrisy of people in the '90s who said Buy American and then went to their Chevy dealer to buy a Geo (all

Re: [MBZ] S600 eBay Deal upe1ujyz

2013-12-29 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 29, 2013 6:54 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: For comparison, there are 6 VW Phaetons on eBay right now, all are V8s, and only one has a current bid less than the buy it now on the S600. They're both money pits, but I'd rather have the Phaeton--it's rare enough to be a future