Re: [MBZ] Goostepping fer andrew Wuz:Restrictions/fire hazards

2014-03-27 Thread Dieselhead
Are you being serious? Far as I remember WTF has been used around here (and most other non swearing forums) for ever. The main purpose of the moderators/admins is to keep the peace and not clamp down on every little thing. Many a time a list member has inadvertently (and not) dropped a bad word

Re: [MBZ] Meeting with Esh [was: Re: Fats driving]

2014-03-27 Thread Gary Hurst
also armstrong, gemainhardt (surely spelled wrong but i don't want to look it up) and i'm thinking probably others as well On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 18:09:15 -0400 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: most of my kid's band

Re: [MBZ] Goostepping fer andrew Wuz:Restrictions/fire hazards

2014-03-27 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Kaleb was the first person I heard use it. Acronyms like WTF should be no problem, but thinly disguised profanity might since it sounds sh-tty. Gerry On 3/26/2014 11:10 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: Are you being serious? Far as I remember WTF has been used around here (and most other non

Re: [MBZ] Goostepping fer andrew Wuz:Restrictions/fire hazards

2014-03-27 Thread Craig
On Thu, 27 Mar 2014 08:33:31 -0400 arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Kaleb was the first person I heard use it. Acronyms like WTF should be no problem, but thinly disguised profanity might since it sounds sh-tty. Gerry I vote for strict interpretation of Kaleb's

Re: [MBZ] Restrictions/fire hazards

2014-03-27 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Interesting! I'll send a copy to the subdivision president. ThanksGerry On 3/26/2014 2:50 PM, Richard Hattaway wrote: Not a real problem to have a controlled burn in an area like that. We had one last year. I was super impressed. The NC Forestry Service pulled it off, had a whole

Re: [MBZ] Restrictions/fire hazards

2014-03-27 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
On 3/26/2014 1:01 PM, Dieselhead wrote: ___ I wish we could do controlled burns, but I don't think you could do it in a large wooded subdivision of mostly one to five acre lots and a lot of standing dead trees on lots that don't have houses. I would guess that not more than

Re: [MBZ] Restrictions/fire hazards

2014-03-27 Thread Dan Penoff
Gerry, If the property is in Florida and there is an HOA in place under Florida law they can potentially fine, or if there is no provision for fines in the bylaws, pay to have the work done then either file a lien or a foreclosure action against the owner. This takes no votes on the part of

[MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Dan Penoff
There must be moisture in it that's freezing. You need to get it completely dried out and lubed. Taking the door handle off is really easy. You could take it inside and clean it out. Dan On Mar 27, 2014, at 10:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Jim Cathey
How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Dry it, lube it, and perhaps check to see if the thin plastic drip shield (inside) has been lost. I'd take it apart, use WD40 to get rid of the water, brake cleaner to get rid of the WD40, then lube it

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Jim Cathey
Oh, and does it still have the protective flap at the keyway? Nothing will work if it's direct rain and runoff that's your problem. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

[MBZ] Sort of Cool

2014-03-27 Thread Dan Penoff
This is a well laid out web site: http://whatsideoftheroad.com Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Rich Thomas
Try some carb (or is it EFI now?) cleaner to clean out any moisture or gunk or whatever it is, then put some good lock lube in there and see if that fixes it. The cleaner seems to be mostly ether or some sort of light alcohol so it should displace the moisture enough to dry things out, or try

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Randy Bennell
On 27/03/2014 9:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD Here in the GWN gas stations

Re: [MBZ] Sort of Cool

2014-03-27 Thread Randy Bennell
On 27/03/2014 9:40 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: This is a well laid out web site: http://whatsideoftheroad.com Dan ___ I looked and they did not appear to get Russia correct. From what I have seen on youtube videos, in Russia they drive where ever the heck they

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Dwight Giles
Yes I have used those little cans of lock deicer as they are basically alcohol. Just stick proboscis in lock spray. I think it dries out moisture as I have never had to use it more than once on any lock. On Mar 27, 2014 11:15 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 27/03/2014 9:11 AM,

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Randy Bennell
Many years ago we used it in the gas tank to prevent problems in cold weather as well. Methyl Hydrate encapsulates the water as I understand it so that it goes through the system without troubles. Not much done now as the fuel is better - mostly because the gas stations are not permitted to

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Randy Bennell
On 27/03/2014 9:11 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD The other thing I have

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Randy Bennell
https://www.google.ca/#q=electric+lock+de+icer ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Max Dillon
Your dealer and maybe Gary sell the real Mercedes lock lube, little blue aerosol can with key-shaped dispenser nozzle, lubes doors, trunks, ignition, lift gate... Once properly lubed, need to make sure more water doesn't get in. If the little door has broken off, maybe fashion a little plug

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Jim Cathey wrote: Oh, and does it still have the protective flap at the keyway? Nothing will work if it's direct rain and runoff that's your problem. Ha - good question. And what if it's missing? Is there a replacement flap? On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Max Dillon

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread clay
Why not use the old fashioned method of heating the key with a flame and inserting it in the lock? On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: There must be moisture in it that's freezing. You need to get it completely dried out and lubed. Taking the door handle off is really easy.

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I think I will try the tock deicer if I can find it... On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:05 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Why not use the old fashioned method of heating the key with a flame and inserting it in the lock? On Mar 27, 2014, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: There must be

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Dan Penoff
The MB lock lubricant is a part number 002 989 06 51 and it runs around $17.00. Everyone I know that has ever used it swears by the stuff. Dan On Mar 27, 2014, at 3:07 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I think I will try the tock deicer if I can find it... On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:05 PM,

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
But my sole problem is icing, Dan. I don't see how a lubricant will prevent that. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: The MB lock lubricant is a part number 002 989 06 51 and it runs around $17.00. Everyone I know that has ever used it swears by the stuff.

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread OK Don
It might displace the water? Or it might not -- A piece of tape over the lock will help prevent more water getting in if the little door is missing, though it won't be very convenient. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: But my sole problem is icing,

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
A pragmatic - if tacky - solution. (no pun in tended)[?] On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 3:41 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: It might displace the water? Or it might not -- A piece of tape over the lock will help prevent more water getting in if the little door is missing, though it won't be

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
WD means water dispersant. WD40 was the fortieth mixture they tried. In freezing weather, I would give the drivers side lock a shot of WD40 both in the keyhole and the crack where the mechanism enters the door, when I parked the car. Unless there had been freeze-rain-freeze, the lock always

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Peter Frederick
Graphite will repel the water and keep the lock dry, hence it will not freeze. Don't forget that sticky oil is much like water in it's effect on door locks -- when cold, it's so stiff the lock will feel frozen. Make sure you have a working door over the keyhole as well, it does a great

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
I've heard of people with a missing flap squirting enough waterproof grease in the keyhole to keep the water out. This was done after a squirt of WD40 in the keyhole to remove any water that's already in it. It's messy but they said it worked. Note: I think the waterproof grease is

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - please donate towards research

2014-03-27 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Well here is something I have absolutely no clue about. The closest I came was when we took out 123 up to the snowy mountains but it was not that cold and the 230E seemed to love the cold weather, musta reminded it of home? The only thing I can think off is to not lock it or perhaps fit an

Re: [MBZ] Goose-stepping fer andrew Wuz:Restrictions/fire hazards

2014-03-27 Thread Hendrik and Fay
I don't think a very strict code of conduct will do anything to improve the list, the end result being half the list dobs the other half in for minor violations. Even the original demand for moderation left a bitter taste in the mouth, that sort of thing should be done in private I think. What

Re: [MBZ] Restrictions/fire hazards

2014-03-27 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
This is sort of a unique subdivision which has two ruling bodies; one of which was formed in rebellion against the other. The owner of the subdivision (which is probably most of the vacant lots) is Prudential Insurance company. I get newsletters from two. This subdivision is so large, the

Re: [MBZ] Restrictions/fire hazards

2014-03-27 Thread Dan Penoff
I thought you said it had an HOA? If so, there is only one board regardless of who owns what. Dan On Mar 27, 2014, at 8:21 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: This is sort of a unique subdivision which has two ruling bodies; one of which was formed in rebellion against the other. The

Re: [MBZ] Restrictions/fire hazards

2014-03-27 Thread Richard Hattaway
Wow that's a big place.. and only two entrances.  I bet the traffic at shift change can be challenging.  However, I think I saw in the wiki article that the median age is in the 60's .. 70% of the people were over 45.  So maybe not so crowded at the gate (c:  There were 2,355 households out

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Dieselhead
Homestead Flah-duh should work too, or Donna TX ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Dieselhead
I am getting sick and tired of lugging a pot of hot water outside when the temperature dips below freezing. How do I fix a chronic situation where the driver's door lock freezes up on my W123 300TD? Andrew 1983 300TD 1985 300TD ___ 1. leave it unlocked 2. move south 3 stop putting water

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Dieselhead
Jim Cathey wrote: Oh, and does it still have the protective flap at the keyway? Nothing will work if it's direct rain and runoff that's your problem. Ha - good question. And what if it's missing? Is there a replacement flap? Ja, It is called a replacement cylinder. order from the

Re: [MBZ] Goose-stepping fer andrew Wuz:Restrictions/fire hazards

2014-03-27 Thread Richard Hattaway
Well, was that a requested sermon?  Exactly who is going to report me, and what would be the benefit?? Does OzBenz punish me, or is that left to someone else?? Richard Smiles, knowing he's doing his best to keep the list from becoming barren and soulless. On Thursday, March 27, 2014 8:17

Re: [MBZ] Frozen lock syndrome - 1983 3000TD

2014-03-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Almost all good suggestions - thanks. Not gonna move. On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 5:22 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: Oh, and does it still have the protective flap at the keyway? Nothing will work if it's direct rain and runoff that's your problem. Ha - good

Re: [MBZ] Goose-stepping fer andrew Wuz:Restrictions/fire hazards

2014-03-27 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Agreed!. The most successful and long lived lists have been those which have a very minimum of rules such as no personal attacks and no profanity. Most of us live in a sea of rules, so a place that has no rules besides one or two is a welcome place to spend our spare time. Gerry On