Re: [MBZ] Carpet Color change

2016-12-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
So, you have the solution - cut new carpets out of army blankets! Probably a lot faster than trying to die the old ones. -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of

Re: [MBZ] Carpet Color change

2016-12-07 Thread clay via Mercedes
Most of the information I found on the interwebz pointed to using a rattle can solution. It gets a bit crispy, and I wanted the flooring to remain soft and supple. The product I used is intended to color unnatural fabric/oil based things. Lack of a light enough starting point has been the

Re: [MBZ] synthetic v regular gear oil

2016-12-07 Thread clay via Mercedes
You will get a much more magical ride out of the car. It takes a pretty long time for synth to get overly nasty under normal driving. I splurged with Gump, because I was unsure of conditions. I did a few quick changes before I was pleased with the results. She was a daily driver, so it was

Re: [MBZ] Seventy Five years ago

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
This is interesting. I just watched a Propaganda BS program called Remember Pearl Harbor. It was very good, but at the end I was sort of watching the credits, and it said the music was composed by Roger Cichy. Way cool! http://pbshawaii.org/remember-pearl-harbor/ Roger Cichy was at ISU in

Re: [MBZ] Injector Cores Wanted - OM617/Bosch NA31/34X

2016-12-07 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I have a set but cannot put hands on them for awhile. When do you need them? On Dec 7, 2016 3:00 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" wrote: > Looking for a set of cores (5) to rebuild for the 82 300D. Don’t have to > be pretty, as I’ll replace the nozzles. > > Drop me a PM if

Re: [MBZ] OT - Insurance

2016-12-07 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
So one car has regular insurance, and the second one gets collector car. On Dec 7, 2016 5:49 PM, "OK Don via Mercedes" wrote: > Hmmm . my primary vehicle is a Cessna. It get's the most miles per year > now. If we don't have bad weather and HAVE to drive somewhere, the

Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread clay via Mercedes
But we have such exhaustive records for the past 140 years! That should count for something? Maybe that is a large enough sample size surely? The tree rings tell us how it has never been warmer than it is now. All the decayed dinosaurs are proof that it took a huge rock from outer space to

Re: [MBZ] Radicalized Iowa Farmers Exert their Property Rights

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Good for you. I've been tempted. I quit going to the major clinic here for many years because of the poor doctoring and 3 hour waits. Before I quit them I did complain officially about the layers of dirt, blood and bloody fingerprints rusted into the stainless steel equipment in

Re: [MBZ] Carpet Color change

2016-12-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Generally speaking, carpet is plastic fibers. Plastic doesn't dye, but you could paint it? Maybe you need to visit a carpet store to see if they have any products that can dye carpet? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___

Re: [MBZ] Radicalized Iowa Farmers Exert their Property Rights

2016-12-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
You're getting soft, my fuse would have lasted about thirty minutes and then BOOM! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On December 7, 2016 9:49:05 PM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >I don't think so, those guys are in a whole different league. > >I

Re: [MBZ] FL miniQ

2016-12-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Manfred, any objection to inviting non-list folks? I know a fellow down near st Pete (I think) who may be interested. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On December 7, 2016 9:44:25 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > >OK, it appears there are no

[MBZ] Carpet Color change

2016-12-07 Thread clay via Mercedes
I learned a few interesting tidbits this day. MB carpets are immune to bleach. At least to watered down bleach in a 1:1 solution. Scrubbed it in, allowed it to soak in for a few hours. Rinse it out and all I got was more fine dirt flushed out. This was learned because, tidbit number two,

Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Max wrote: > Thanks Craig. Amazing how a little perspective on how the climate has > changed demonstrates (with science) why global warming alarmism is a fraud. Yes, this is true. How can we work together, instead of against each other regarding different assessments of the information? If

Re: [MBZ] Radicalized Iowa Farmers Exert their Property Rights

2016-12-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I don't think so, those guys are in a whole different league. I did have it out at a doctor's office this morning though. After waiting 1.5 hr to see a doc about my bum knee -- 10A for an 8:30A appointment -- it went fairly well, he then asked me what I wanted to do, I said, "Let's do what

Re: [MBZ] Radicalized Iowa Farmers Exert their Property Rights

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
It is pretty obvious that the CCF has something on Roberts. He changed at the time of the bummerUNcare fight. It might be as simple as a promise to eliminate the family. Curt Raymond via Mercedes December 7, 2016 at 8:22 PM Because he's part of "The Obama

Re: [MBZ] FL miniQ

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
OK, it appears there are no objections to the 14th, and maybe 15th for the FLminiQ. With the 16th being a holiday for some, those who wish to do something as a group/subgroup on the 15th may want to. I'd suggest we assemble Saturday morning, look over each other's cars, etc., then maybe go

Re: [MBZ] Radicalized Iowa Farmers Exert their Property Rights

2016-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Because he's part of "The Obama Supreme Court" which doesn't pay much attention to the constitution and draws the ire of the right... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent:

Re: [MBZ] OT - Insurance

2016-12-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Hmmm . my primary vehicle is a Cessna. It get's the most miles per year now. If we don't have bad weather and HAVE to drive somewhere, the cars get 5000 miles per year - a trip into town once a week or so. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The manufacturing of those solar cells is not without it's own costs and pollutants as well, and transmission loses from the cells to the hydrogen generators. TANSAAFL. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:24 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > >> > The Nikola truck is supposed to get

Re: [MBZ] synthetic v regular gear oil

2016-12-07 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I used synthetic gear oil in the difference of my 78 240D. ran much quieter. Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 2005 E320 4 matic Wickford RI On Dec 7, 2016 8:10 PM, "Peter Frederick via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Same benefits as for any other synthetic vs Dino oil: > > Far less

Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks Craig. Amazing how a little perspective on how the climate has changed demonstrates (with science) why global warming alarmism is a fraud. Andrew, did you bother to look? Care to comment on why that science should be discounted? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On

Re: [MBZ] synthetic v regular gear oil

2016-12-07 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Same benefits as for any other synthetic vs Dino oil: Far less viscosity change with temperature. Order of magnitude better lubrication by any measure you want to use. Much longer life. Adheres to metals, so no dry startups. Peter ___

[MBZ] synthetic v regular gear oil

2016-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I just ordered a case of Mobil 1 75W90 gear oil. So is synthetic gear oil really better than regular? What supposed benefits will I get? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The facts are in the emails to/from the DNC posted by wikileaks. No mystery. No magic. Just the facts as told by democrat party operatives. Jon Agne via Mercedes December 7, 2016 at 5:34 PM Please show me your “stubborn FACTS.”

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I don't believe that. Worn out seals will leak with any color. The 300TE had the tandem pump seals worn out due to being run dry for quite a while. A kit and new seals fixed it. the 35 year old pump in the 240D weeps. It has 35 years and a few 100K miles on it, so I think it has served

Re: [MBZ] Radicalized Iowa Farmers Exert their Property Rights

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Hehe! Rabble rouser! I wish you were a bill collector. I'd love to send you to joisey to collect a rather large bill. Floyd Thursby via Mercedes December 7, 2016 at 4:46 PM That brings up an interesting experience I have had locally with ED. I am on the

Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/21/us/politics/video-dnc-trump-rallies.html as requested. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jon Agne via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 3:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Jon Agne

Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Please show me your “stubborn FACTS.” > On Dec 7, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes > wrote: > > The only brownshirts I've seen lately have been worn by democrat operatives > such as Robert Creamer and Scott Foval. The narrative has been that Trump > and

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Pretty easy, acutally. Check for voltage at the low pressure switch and a ground on one side -- the PBCU grounds the signal from the Klima relay to switch the compressor on. If you have voltage and a ground, the relay is bad (usually cracked solder on the actual relay) OR the low

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
There are rumors that ATF in any version will eat the seals out of the PS pump. My "new" 300D lost one a few years back, and the fluid was pink. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

[MBZ] Injector Cores Wanted - OM617/Bosch NA31/34X

2016-12-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Looking for a set of cores (5) to rebuild for the 82 300D. Don’t have to be pretty, as I’ll replace the nozzles. Drop me a PM if you’ve got some. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Radicalized Iowa Farmers Exert their Property Rights

2016-12-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
That brings up an interesting experience I have had locally with ED. I am on the board of little local water company, which is kind of a weird quasi-public/private water company due to state and federal laws. But it works. We have ED ability should we need to get ROW for new lines or moving

Re: [MBZ] Radicalized Iowa Farmers Exert their Property Rights

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Awa law says land can be taken for public utilities. A private pipe with no inlets or outlets in the state is not a public utility. It serves no public purpose. The IR friggin "Service" will tax you if you sell to the utility or ID(i)OT. However if you make them condemn the land via ED,

Re: [MBZ] I simply don't know how to respond

2016-12-07 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
With a cheby engine- capital offense Dwight Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 2005 E320 4 matic Wickford RI On Dec 7, 2016 4:15 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" wrote: > you are buying a beautiful collector driving machine. > > --RT > > On 12/3/16 11:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Easy. Install solar and wind power. On Dec 7, 2016 4:05 PM, "Mountain Man via Mercedes" wrote: > Andrew wrote: > > Earth is not Cooling, Climate Change is Real... > > This is nice and perhaps agreeable, really. > What about what we *do* will change Real Climate Change? >

Re: [MBZ] Radicalized Iowa Farmers Exert their Property Rights

2016-12-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Kelo v New London basically said the US Constitution didn't prohibit taking people's houses to give to private developers, that's all up to the state law. (and Connecticut didn't have state protections in place) What I'm reading here is that Iowa has limitations on eminent domain takings of

Re: [MBZ] I simply don't know how to respond

2016-12-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
you are buying a beautiful collector driving machine. --RT On 12/3/16 11:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/cto/5902453770.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT - Insurance

2016-12-07 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
They will not write on a primary vehicle fyi. On Dec 7, 2016 10:09 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > For some reason Dan is now being sent to Spam. WTF? > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >

Re: [MBZ] Radicalized Iowa Farmers Exert their Property Rights

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
You have to remember that shysters are professional liars. They are shysters first and foremost, then some become judges. (a flaw in the system) and some of the judges become supremes. Most (R) presidents since the "progressive" invasion in 1860 have been duped by shysters. Craig via

Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: > Earth is not Cooling, Climate Change is Real... This is nice and perhaps agreeable, really. What about what we *do* will change Real Climate Change? What can be accomplished? Don't talk with us plebes - take it upstairs to the money junkies - they own the generating plants, the

Re: [MBZ] Radicalized Iowa Farmers Exert their Property Rights

2016-12-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 19:59:17 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Is there irony in Roberts being a Bush appointee? > -Curt Yes, and one of Reagan's appointees responded to the liberal atmosphere and water in DC and moved that direction, too. Craig

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curley wrote: > No loss. They "borrowed" (plagiarized) the "news" from the BBfrigginC... Along with the BBfrigginC brit accents which makes *everything* sooo much better balanced and believable, really!! tin.man mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Bluff accepted. Send me a clip to read. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Andrew wrote: > > I can recognize biases in reporting and sieve that out from the facts. > Not > > a problem. > > I call your bluff on that. > I show you my bluff

Re: [MBZ] Radicalized Iowa Farmers Exert their Property Rights

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Why? On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Is there irony in Roberts being a Bush appointee? > -Curt > > From: Curley McLain via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Curley

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: > I can recognize biases in reporting and sieve that out from the facts. Not > a problem. I call your bluff on that. I show you my bluff if you let me call yours. tin.man mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It's a fool's errand to repair a blower motor in a W123. Simply buy a used one for $40 and swap it in. Better yet, get two. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > Ralph, > > Since they were poking around in the vicinity of the heater box where your

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dan wrote: > Did you get your "Nina Totenbag" in this year's fund drive? More bling? from our owners? China? If they sourced bling locally made and sourced two-bits might make it their way... maybe... tin.man mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Just remember - he speaks daily with Obama for advice and counsel. I am not making this up. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > -Curt wrote: > > I'd like to find somebody who has some semblance of balanced reporting. > I used to like

Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You're right. I would rather cook a turkey in a HOT oven than a COOL one. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:50 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Please don't side with the Weather Channel on anything. I live within a > 100 miles of their headquarters and they can't get my

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Ralph, Since they were poking around in the vicinity of the heater box where your blower motor is located, I would take a look at the compressor cut out switch that's located on the heater box. It's a thermal switch with a capillary tube that extends into the heater/evaporator box. If you

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I use the Febi equivalent in my '95 E300 (and I use whatever ATF bottle is open on the shelf for my '87 wagon), which I think is like $7 or $9 per liter. At my dealer I think they charged me $12 or $15 when I had to get some of the 000 989 88 03 quickly. Febi 08972 is "recommended" for use in

Re: [MBZ] This is interesting

2016-12-07 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Curt wrote: The thing is that the greenies want "no tailpipe emissions" to equal "no emissions" which they don't. I had a huge argument once where my side of the argument was just me repeating "where does the hydrogen come from" over and over. My opponent had no answer, he had no idea where

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
-Curt wrote: > I'd like to find somebody who has some semblance of balanced reporting. I > used to like NPR... Marketplace is... still too much unbelief of Trump, but kinda enjoyable to hear. It really is difficult to find information. All information is bias for sure. Please keep us in the

Re: [MBZ] Radicalized Iowa Farmers Exert their Property Rights

2016-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Is there irony in Roberts being a Bush appointee? -Curt From: Curley McLain via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Radicalized Iowa

[MBZ] FW: Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
The Big Lie being democrats attributing their own tactics to the opposition! http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/21/us/politics/video-dnc-trump-rallies.html Is that some of the NYT fake news? I note that the democrats distanced themselves from (fired) these two after the videos were

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 07/12/2016 1:55 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: Dad's contention with both groups was that 1., you rarely if ever gain anything by talking to either group, and 2., both will take what you said and distort it to suit their needs. Dan And, each is trained to get information from you that

Re: [MBZ] Seventy Five years ago

2016-12-07 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curley wrote: > It was a quiet Sunday morning. An attack from the air happened... Yes, a good pogrom to test the new einstein physics experiment for real. The testing at LANL were insufficient. ...or, so some say... mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
+1 Max beat me to it, and said it well. On my cars, KLIMA has always been the failure. There is a place in FL who sells rebuilt Klima relays. You can pull the klime and jump two terminals in the socket to test if this is the problem. I use 12 ga solid copper house wire for making the

Re: [MBZ] These were men!

2016-12-07 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curley wrote: > These were real men, not the confused little buttercup wussies that inhabit > colleges and the coastal cities of the US now. But... What about EPA? What about OSHA? Aren't we sooo much better with larger government oversight and unions? In comparison. I am buttercup wussie

Re: [MBZ] Radicalized Iowa Farmers Exert their Property Rights

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
No radicals in this story. (except Ed Fallon*) It is about eminent domain, and its abuse to take property rights of individuals and give those rights to a private company. Seems as though the Bummer supreme court believed doing so was ok, even though it is NOT constitutional. But then the

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Assuming this is the SDL. Sounds like the serpentine belt saving feature, which cuts the compressor clutch power signal, is the issue. In the KLIMA relay, the circuitry compares the compressor speed (from a sensor on the back of the compressor) to the engine speed, and if they are too far

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Dad's contention with both groups was that 1., you rarely if ever gain anything by talking to either group, and 2., both will take what you said and distort it to suit their needs. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Dec 7, 2016, at 2:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > I can

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
There is a very specific ordered and detailed yet simple test for checking this in the manual. If your shop has no clue what the cause is then they have no clue. Is this the same shop that reversed the wiring? To answer your question the problem is most likely the klima relay, could be the

Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Please don't side with the Weather Channel on anything. I live within a 100 miles of their headquarters and they can't get my weather forecast correct. So, please don't trust their take on climate change, global warming, or whatever nonsense comes up. Over 50 years ago when I was in school, the

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Yeah, the BBC News Hour comes on in the AM when I can catch it. I like listening to their news since it's got a very different angle and isn't as "colored" as domestic news is. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Dec 7, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: >

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I only fund my local station, not the national guys. Many people don't realize you can do this. I like my local station, I did a lot of volunteer work there in the past, and they do a lot of things for the community. About the only thing I listen to is the national news, I do everything else

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Trim yer posts, Dan! I usta like listening to Nat. Propaganda Radio. I mean where else can you hear the latest developments in Papua New Guinea rebellions and East Timor? In the past 24 years, since the CCF took over, the propaganda has gotten so much worse, and the news became much

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Where are you Ralph? Let us find you a DECENT mechanic. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I had my A/C,heater motor brushes replaced and exerienced a problem after > the wires were replaced in reverse. Had this fixed and now I have

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 19:35:07 + (UTC) "Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes" wrote: > I had my A/C,heater motor brushes replaced and exerienced a problem > after the wires were replaced in reverse.  Had this fixed and now I > have trouble with my compressor not kicking in.  Had it

Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I think you meant inconvenient "truth". ;) On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes >> December 7, 2016 at 1:17 PM >> The only brownshirts I've seen lately have been worn by

[MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes
I had my A/C,heater motor brushes replaced and exerienced a problem after the wires were replaced in reverse.  Had this fixed and now I have trouble with my compressor not kicking in.  Had it checked out, but the garage cannot find what is causing the problem.  They tell me I have power at the

Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes December 7, 2016 at 1:17 PM The only brownshirts I've seen lately have been worn by democrat operatives such as Robert Creamer and Scott Foval. The narrative has been that Trump and his supporters incite violence, but the stubborn

[MBZ] Radicalized Iowa Farmers Exert their Property Rights

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
They must have been corrupted by NPR. DAKOTA ACCESSIowa property rights case another front in pipeline battle Hannah Northey , E News reporter Published: Wednesday, December 7, 2016[image: Dakota Access pipeline construction in Iowa] Energy Transfer

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
My wife funds them but we've decided we won't be for next year... -Curt From: Dan--- via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: "d...@penoff.com" Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] CCF and

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I can recognize biases in reporting and sieve that out from the facts. Not a problem. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > My Dad always told us there were two groups of people we should never talk > to - reporters and police officers. > > Dan > >

Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The Big Lie - invented by the Nazis. it never dies On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The only brownshirts I've seen lately have been worn by democrat operatives > such as Robert Creamer and Scott Foval. The narrative has been that

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
My Dad always told us there were two groups of people we should never talk to - reporters and police officers. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Dec 7, 2016, at 2:10 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes > wrote: > > << So what do you want to do - collect your own news in

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Did you get your "Nina Totenbag" in this year's fund drive? And yes, Marketplace is a very well done and balanced show, I believe. Wish I got to listen to it more often. Dan 20+ year sustaining member Sent from my iPad > On Dec 7, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
The only brownshirts I've seen lately have been worn by democrat operatives such as Robert Creamer and Scott Foval. The narrative has been that Trump and his supporters incite violence, but the stubborn FACTS show that it was the democrats who have actually used these tactics. Greg -Original

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Wow! Really? I think the last liter I bought at the dealer was like $12, if that. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Dec 7, 2016, at 2:00 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > That's what I need to do. At $33 a litre, I will place it in a spot of > distinction in the

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
<< So what do you want to do - collect your own news in person?>> The few times I've been there and later seen the reports of events in the media (The Oregonian newspaper) I observed how they twisted and misrepresented what was actually occurring. I don't accept everything on Breitbart at face

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
That's what I need to do. At $33 a litre, I will place it in a spot of distinction in the garage. Bob R On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > I just keep a couple of liters of MB fluid on the shelf, that way it's > alway right no matter what. > >

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'd like to find somebody who has some semblance of balanced reporting. I used to like NPR but they went off the liberal deep end this election cycle. They'd called the election for Hillary a year ago and nothing was going to change their opinion. When Trump was elected they lost their minds.

Re: [MBZ] OT - Insurance

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
For some reason Dan is now being sent to Spam. WTF? On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 3,000 - 5,000 miles/year., roughly. > > Dan > > > > On Dec 6, 2016, at 9:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > > > No limit on

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
So what do you want to do - collect your own news in person? On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > "Truth" seems to be in short supply these days. > Its very difficult to find unbiased reporting on anything... > -Curt > > From: G Mann

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I just keep a couple of liters of MB fluid on the shelf, that way it's alway right no matter what. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Dec 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Then M1 it is. > > Bob R > > On Dec 7, 2016 10:35 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Then M1 it is. Bob R On Dec 7, 2016 10:35 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yea that should be fine > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 7, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > M1 ATF? > > > > On Wed, Dec 7,

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yea that should be fine Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2016, at 11:27 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > M1 ATF? > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Not sure where you get that idea. I

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
"Truth" seems to be in short supply these days. Its very difficult to find unbiased reporting on anything... -Curt From: G Mann via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2016 12:18

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
M1 ATF? On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Not sure where you get that idea. I looked it up in the manual on either a > 210 or the 251 and it listed atf as the correct fluid > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 7, 2016, at 10:32 AM,

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Not sure where you get that idea. I looked it up in the manual on either a 210 or the 251 and it listed atf as the correct fluid Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2016, at 10:32 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Negative. ATF is only correct for power steering

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That's what I use. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 7, 2016, at 10:28 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > I need to top off the power steering fluid in my W210. It's simply ATF, no? > Would Mobil 1 ATF be an acceptable topping off fluid? > > Bob R >

Re: [MBZ] CCF and their stooges, DNC, (J) party started the fake news industry

2016-12-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Truth is always inconvenient when you are living a lie, following liars. The tide of public opinion has changed direction. Either choose to swim against it until you drown, or swim with it until you reach enlightenment. Your choice. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
It's a '98. I have both the Petosin (for the VWs) and Dexron III. I reckon I really cant go wrong topping off with the Petosin.until I either settle this dilimea (M1, Petosin, DexIII) or go buy MB PS oil. Bob R On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 10:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com>

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Hmm, I was pretty sure of what I told you but now the googles shows me posts where people say to use M1 ATF in a 210. When I got my '85 190D I put M1 ATF in just like I had with my 240D and in short order it started leaking around the pump shaft seal. I replaced the pump and put Pentosin in it

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
So it appears a majority of chassis' use the Petosin CHF 11S. The W210, specifically, uses either MB fluid or Dexron III. I have some Dexron III in the garage. The information I looked at wasn't too elaborate as to Dexron III. Are all Dexron III brands/iterations the same? Bob R On Wed, Dec 7,

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Well I guess I better figure out the correct fluid Bob R On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Negative. ATF is only correct for power steering if the engine does not > have a serpentine belt. MB has a spec for that... > > -Curt > >

Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You can't even spell consensus. Or is the jury still out on that as well? On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 11:32 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Pull your head out of the sand. It has already been proven that the > "concensus" is fake, and the data was faked. > > Reality

Re: [MBZ] Power Steering Fluid

2016-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Negative. ATF is only correct for power steering if the engine does not have a serpentine belt. MB has a spec for that... -Curt From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Bob Rentfro Sent:

Re: [MBZ] OT - Insurance

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
It needs a run down to the FL miniQ. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes December 7, 2016 at 10:15 AM That would work for me. My daily driver 300TD barely scores 5k miles/yr. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

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