Re: [MBZ] Manny euro wagon

2019-01-05 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Something isn’t right with that car or seller... it’s been listed for a long time on NYC Craigslist also. Likely a scam... it should be sold by now. On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 8:48 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 1980 Mercedes Benz 280TE Wagon / manual transmissio

Re: [MBZ] Could be a good cheap beater

2019-01-05 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
As long as it runs and drives it could be a good beater, winter or otherwise. Some Okie Chrome and plastic and yer good to go. $500 would be my max if I wanted/needed such a thing. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jan 4, 2019, at 11:49 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Charity had a W1

Re: [MBZ] Manny euro wagon

2019-01-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Why could it be a scam? For all intents and purposes, it's the type of car that nobody would want. At that price. On Jan 5, 2019 7:33 AM, "Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Something isn’t right with that car or seller... it’s been listed for a > long time on NYC Cr

Re: [MBZ] How Far The Mighty Have Fallen

2019-01-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Good luck going about your daily life without ever purchasing an item that was made in China. Might as well become a survivalist. On Jan 5, 2019 1:44 AM, "fmiser via Mercedes" wrote: > > Curt wrote: > > > Made in China doesn't automatically mean it's bad. > > Yup. > > But regardless of the build

Re: [MBZ] Manny euro wagon

2019-01-05 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
$4500 is a great price for a W123 wagon... hes been advertising it since August. Something doesn't add up. If it was local, I'd have bought it. I think its the same guy selling this 5 speed R129: https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cto/6775231409.html Perhaps hes completely insane, like that guy

Re: [MBZ] How Far The Mighty Have Fallen

2019-01-05 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Not only are MB parts made in China now... they're making whole Mercedes there now. And they're just as good as cars from any other production plant. Imagine that! (And all the other major automakers do this too) Its a new world... time to face reality, folks. Made in China doesn't automatical

Re: [MBZ] Manny euro wagon

2019-01-05 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Haha, now that I watched the youtube video, I realize the seller sounds like Al Abbasi. Hes not crazy... maybe hes just too honest! On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 2:04 PM Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > $4500 is a great price for a W123 wagon... hes been advertising it since > August. Something doesn't add u

[MBZ] 1985 300TD on BAT

2019-01-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Beige/palomino. How boring can you get? Been in an accident. I wonder what this will fetch. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-300td-turbo-14/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2019-01-05 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To sear

Re: [MBZ] How Far The Mighty Have Fallen

2019-01-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yes Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 5, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > Not only are MB parts made in China now... they're making whole Mercedes > there now. And they're just as good as cars from any other production > plant. Imagine that! (And all the other major a

Re: [MBZ] How Far The Mighty Have Fallen

2019-01-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
When I was growing up the Made in Japan label was a red flag denoting poor quality goods or toys.. Now, it's an indicator of luxury. On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 2:49 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yes > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jan 5, 2019, at 1:10 PM, Jaime

[MBZ] Mercedes 240D 1983 - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale

2019-01-05 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I’m assuming “stator” is starter. Remind me what that it is that would need to be done if the starter is ticking on the flywheel. Gotta replace the stupid-ru. Bob R https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/chandler-mercedes-240d-1983/6781609454.html Sent from my iPhone _

Re: [MBZ] Could be a good cheap beater

2019-01-05 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 23:49:25 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > This one is totaled too, you can see the left quarter is bent in the > pic, wavy metal around the wheel arch. I noticed that on both sides ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To se

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 240D 1983 - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale

2019-01-05 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Here's a few prospects for you, if you are so inclined. https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/mesa-1995-mercedes-diesel-om606-engine/6772459522.html https://tucson.craigslist.org/cto/d/tucson-2001-mercedes-benz-e320-trade/6771575862.html Got a friend with a body shop? https://phoenix.craigsli

Re: [MBZ] How Far The Mighty Have Fallen

2019-01-05 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Andrew sez: >When I was growing up the Made in Japan label was a red flag denoting poor >quality goods or toys.. Now, it's an indicator of luxury. Because they listened to an American, when US car makers wouldn't. https://www.hci.com.au/deming-a/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Edwards_Deming

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 240D 1983 - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale

2019-01-05 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I’ve already looked at the first one you listed. It is likely what I’ll get. The paint is absolutely toast, but I can live with that. That was the first 124 I’ve ever driven. The shifting of its transmission or something I wasn’t familiar with. I think I remember asking questions about that.

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 240D 1983 - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale

2019-01-05 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Bob R sez: >I’ve already looked at the first one you listed. It is likely what I’ll get. Cool. I really like the 400E Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go t

Re: [MBZ] How Far The Mighty Have Fallen

2019-01-05 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 14:10:30 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: > Its a new world... time to face reality, folks. Made in China doesn't > automatically mean something is junk. Things are engineered and built > to a specification that defines quality. Build to that specification > and yo

Re: [MBZ] How Far The Mighty Have Fallen

2019-01-05 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Then Sony, Nikon, and Canon came out . . . On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 2:27 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 14:10:30 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Its a new world... time to face reality, folks. Made in China doesn't > > automatically mean something is junk.

Re: [MBZ] How Far The Mighty Have Fallen

2019-01-05 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 14:32:44 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Then Sony, Nikon, and Canon came out . . . Yes. As Rick already pointed out, when Deming was speaking, US manufacturers turned a deaf ear, but the Japanese listened. When I worked at Hewlett-Packard in Colorado Springs, we had class

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 240D 1983 - cars & trucks - by owner - vehicle automotive sale

2019-01-05 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
That first one looks pretty good. Glow plugs are a real pain, hopefully none are broken off in the head. If all the glow plugs are good, and the evaporator doesn't leak, that's a great car. Ugly paint, but solid ride. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On January 5, 2019 3:22:55 PM EST, Bob Rentfro v

Re: [MBZ] 1985 300TD on BAT

2019-01-05 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
There is something icky about it. Paint over everything doesn’t help. The left lower quarter appears to have had a rust repair but the contours were done wrong-too squared off. This is a common way to fix rust by amateurs with no real metal fab skills. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 5, 2019, at

[MBZ] One For Curley

2019-01-05 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] How Far The Mighty Have Fallen

2019-01-05 Thread Dimitri via Mercedes
I still go out of my way to buy made in USA, Europe, or any other country that doesn’t offend me. It’s obviously virtually impossible to avoid made in China but I do my best. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 5, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 14:32:44 -0600 OK D

Re: [MBZ] How Far The Mighty Have Fallen

2019-01-05 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
My buddy is a technical consultant. Does work for a big korean carmaker. They sent him to China. He says what are you doing in china? Gets there and they make rolling chassis with powertrains. Neighboring plants make the bodies. Any body you want, bmw, mercedes etc. Pretty good copies, according to

Re: [MBZ] How Far The Mighty Have Fallen

2019-01-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Hear Here! W. Edwards Deming is revered in Japan like Eli Whitney used to be revered here.   He, and the industrious people, turned Japan from wreckage into the mark of quality, based on the work of Walter Shewhart. See Statistical Method from the Viewpoint of Quality Control By Walter Sh

Re: [MBZ] "WHY" classic Mercedes are worth saving- the bleak future of driving

2019-01-05 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
The Finns have already hacked the engine management on the om648. People have also figured out how to disable the immobilizers to transplant them into older chassis etc. With OE engine management. The point is that some of the better or more durable modern powertrain stuff may end up having afterm

Re: [MBZ] How Far The Mighty Have Fallen

2019-01-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Used to be, you could get VW bugs in Meh he ko long after production stopped in Germany, and VW stopped selling them in the USA.    In fact the MB trucks like the 1113 up to 1316 were made in brasil, years after production stopped in Germany.  That is why those trucks look like they were design

Re: [MBZ] How Far The Mighty Have Fallen

2019-01-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
You might be on to something Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 5, 2019, at 8:50 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > Used to be, you could get VW bugs in Meh he ko long after production stopped > in Germany, and VW stopped selling them in the USA.In fact the MB trucks > like the 1113

Re: [MBZ] How Far The Mighty Have Fallen

2019-01-05 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
And lest we forget - only Mercedes Benz owners carry an expectation that their vehicles will last for years and years, plus drive for at least a million miles. On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 10:14 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You might be on to something > > Sent fr

Re: [MBZ] How Far The Mighty Have Fallen

2019-01-05 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
people did similar things with frods, shoveys, internationals, volvos, metropolitans, and probably many other cars.  Many model Ts were driven for decades.   Road conditions may not have allowed one to reach a million miles, if if cars had hourmeters, some probably reached at least the number o

[MBZ] OT: Roger needs this

2019-01-05 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
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