Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Having done the 124 300D rear subframe piecemeal, several times, I have to agree with Jaime.  I did the rear of the 81 240D all at once.  That is a FAR superior way to do it.   In the end, the last 2 times I did the rear of 124s, I did it all at once.   I won't do piecemeal anymore, unless it

Re: [MBZ] OT: Daimler switching out of developing natural gas powered trucks

2019-10-30 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Yes, I have noticed!  You have been blowing cold air on me all summer!   I am still waiting for albore's global warming.  'Stead if that, we get cold summers and cold winters. Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 10/30/19 2:18 PM: On 30/10/2019 1:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT: Daimler switching out of developing natural gas powered trucks

2019-10-30 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Well, it is false because it is based on falsified data, incorrect algorithms, and their own predictions have already been proven false by time. Oh, and that is saying nothing about the lack of scientific method. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 10/30/19 1:55 PM: All it takes is ONE

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The ones who were in the 4th of July parade last year bragging they were "zero emissions"  (not) were notably absent this year...    Guess reality set in. I never did want one.  I'd still prefer a 240D or 300D. BTW, over the weekend at the old U, some kid was driving around sportingly in a

Re: [MBZ] Grosser or Andrewmobile?

2019-10-30 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
That's fun! Max Dillon Charleston SC Tue Oct 29 21:17:38 EDT 2019 Mitch Haley via Mercedes : > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn1JN4b41XM > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] 3000 miles, like new interior

2019-10-30 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Nothing wrong with that car that a economy size jug of wallet wax wouldn't buff out... Actually, might be a good "Martha, Fix, Flip, " opportunity... On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 7:25 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 3000 miles in 7 years, but they found the time to

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Is your name Curt? On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:15 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Nothing wrong with being able to drive a diesel for years on the > purchase price difference between it and an electric car. > > Randy > > On 30/10/2019 1:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via

Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sure. If I had won the auction I would probably drive it and repair issues on a piecemeal basis, as symptoms are observed. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 3:13 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I didn't actually look too hard at the car. But as these approach 40 years

Re: [MBZ] OT: Daimler switching out of developing natural gas powered trucks

2019-10-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 30/10/2019 1:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: All it takes is ONE cold or snowy day in a non-winter month ANYWHERE in the globe to disprove that the global warming theory. Uh, did you happen to note the weather we had here on or about the 10th of October? There was so much wet

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Nothing wrong with being able to drive a diesel for years on the purchase price difference between it and an electric car. Randy On 30/10/2019 1:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Very cool! What's wrong with that? On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 2:43 PM Curt Raymond wrote: My wife's

Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I didn't actually look too hard at the car. But as these approach 40 years old, they need stuff. More stuff than they did 20 years ago, no doubt. And yes, my work is mostly with MB genuine parts, which are the only ones that last long term for suspension. You could save by going aftermarket

[MBZ] WUZ -Re: OT: Daimler switching out of developing natural gas powered trucks

2019-10-30 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
The arctic must be warming. I took a visit to the ‘yota lot this week (SWMBA finally got her car in for service after four years). It looks like there is a market for Priapus cars now. No other hybrid models for sale, just the pr. There was even a plug in type went past while I was

Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 30/10/2019 1:44 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: Unless its been done recently, and with good quality parts, that car will need: Complete rebuild of front suspension Drive shaft stuff Rear subframe mounts and rear suspension bits All the brakes All the climate control stuff, plus AC

Re: [MBZ] OT: Daimler switching out of developing natural gas powered trucks

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
All it takes is ONE cold or snowy day in a non-winter month ANYWHERE in the globe to disprove that the global warming theory. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 2:49 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The Climate Change Astrophysicist teaching the old folks class (he looks > and

Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'm skeptical that this particular car would need all of that. Also, those are dealership prices. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 2:45 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Unless its been done recently, and with good quality parts, that car will > need: > Complete rebuild

Re: [MBZ] OT: Daimler switching out of developing natural gas powered trucks

2019-10-30 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
The Climate Change Astrophysicist teaching the old folks class (he looks and sounds like Jim Jones) is sure the world is warming and showed the NOAA prediction for this year. Warm and wet, as it is neither a Nino or Nina year. He is sure there will be polar bears in Prius, powered with PV

Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No disrespect, but I strongly disagree. It would be super challenging to spend $10k on a clean 300TD wagon not needing a repaint, transmission, or engine replacement. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 2:37 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Suffice it to say I think Jaime's

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Very cool! What's wrong with that? On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 2:43 PM Curt Raymond wrote: > My wife's cousin has a Model 3, had my Jetta parked next to it at a family > thing a couple months ago. He was telling us how cheap it is to run. I > remarked that I could drive for something like 3 years

Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Unless its been done recently, and with good quality parts, that car will need: Complete rebuild of front suspension Drive shaft stuff Rear subframe mounts and rear suspension bits All the brakes All the climate control stuff, plus AC work Full service, fluids, hoses, filters, etc. Tires Thats

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
My wife's cousin has a Model 3, had my Jetta parked next to it at a family thing a couple months ago. He was telling us how cheap it is to run. I remarked that I could drive for something like 3 years just on just the difference in price between the two. Then he started getting text alerts

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I can buy a lot of diesel for what a model 3 costs. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 7:42 AM Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > 55 gal drum of electrons? > > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:47 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Yeah, that is a major point of electric cars: no trips to

Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Suffice it to say I think Jaime's standards are a bit more particular than yours Andrew. Only guessing of course... On Wed, Oct 30, 2019, 7:44 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Why so much? Vacuum sorting and cruise control can be easily done under > $1k if

Re: [MBZ] Grosser on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
SOLD for $79K. Not bad for a one-owner 600 in decent shape. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:47 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Looking at the rear wheels in the pictures, my thoughts run to "All my > friends know the Low Rider" > >

Re: [MBZ] Cheap 04 E320 doesn't look bad

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
"Fair condition" could comprise a multitude of ills. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 11:53 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/428196771173405/ > > 2004 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Sedan 4D > Pooler, GA· about a day ago > < >

Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I guess that makes me Above Average. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:14 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Randy Bennell via Mercedes writes: > > > On 30/10/2019 9:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > >> Why so much? Vacuum sorting and cruise control can be

Re: [MBZ] Jetta Diesel

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Mercedes Lite. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 11:46 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I haven't driven one but that'd be my expectation. It'll also have more > rattles and be less solid feeling. Should get around 50mpg though. > -Curt > > > On Wednesday, October 30,

[MBZ] OT: It's green. Chevy Vega 2.0-16v

2019-10-30 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I never saw a non-black Cosworth Vega, probably only saw 2-3 of them ever, including the one in Shaheen Chevrolet's showroom. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1976-chevrolet-vega-6/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Grosser on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Looking at the rear wheels in the pictures, my thoughts run to "All my friends know the Low Rider" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y7lY3-4mZ4 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] OT: Daimler switching out of developing natural gas powered trucks

2019-10-30 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Exactly, and a truck (like a rocket in some ways) needs to drag its fuel around, unless it stops frequently, which eats into the profitability of the operation.  Diesel is compact and not particularly heavy to contain and a small fraction of the payload weight, hydrogen and batteries and CNG

Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Randy Bennell via Mercedes writes: > On 30/10/2019 9:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >> Why so much? Vacuum sorting and cruise control can be easily done under >> $1k if you are the least bit handy. >> > Most people are not handy. And the number who are is declining. If you can't

Re: [MBZ] OT: Daimler switching out of developing natural gas powered trucks

2019-10-30 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Rockets need so much fuel because they need to be able to lift the weight of the fuel. It's a self-compounding problem. *Just* lifing the payload is a tiny fraction of the fuel energy needed. Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes writes: > I recall in rocket design the big factor was energy density

Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 30/10/2019 9:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Why so much? Vacuum sorting and cruise control can be easily done under $1k if you are the least bit handy. Most people are not handy. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Randy needs this

2019-10-30 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Looks pretty good. I wouldn't mind having one of those. Randy On 29/10/2019 9:33 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: But it needs a new sunroof so I might not want to pay the buy-it-now price https://www.copart.com/lot/52604849 ___

[MBZ] Cheap 04 E320 doesn't look bad

2019-10-30 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/428196771173405/ 2004 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Sedan 4D Pooler, GA· about a day ago · $1,750 * About This Vehicle * * o o Driven 225,000 miles *

Re: [MBZ] Jetta Diesel

2019-10-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I haven't driven one but that'd be my expectation. It'll also have more rattles and be less solid feeling. Should get around 50mpg though. -Curt On Wednesday, October 30, 2019, 11:37:37 AM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: So it's like a 240D but much lighter/peppier? Mitch > On

Re: [MBZ] Jetta Diesel

2019-10-30 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
So it's like a 240D but much lighter/peppier? Mitch > On October 30, 2019 at 11:20 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > 2nd Gen, I think thats pre-"eco diesel" which is pre-TDI. Not a bad price, > car looks pretty good. Will be slow, IIRC its a 67hp or thereabouts.

Re: [MBZ] Jetta Diesel

2019-10-30 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
2nd Gen, I think thats pre-"eco diesel" which is pre-TDI. Not a bad price, car looks pretty good. Will be slow, IIRC its a 67hp or thereabouts. -Curt On Wednesday, October 30, 2019, 9:58:23 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

[MBZ] Grosser on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
In case one of us wins the lottery in the next few hours. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-mercedes-benz-600/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2019-10-30 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Why so much? Vacuum sorting and cruise control can be easily done under $1k if you are the least bit handy. On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:57 AM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This is definitely the case... buyers know they're going to invest more. > This car will

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
55 gal drum of electrons? On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:47 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yeah, that is a major point of electric cars: no trips to the filling > station. Unless you drive long distance, which most people dont. Neighbor > had a Cmax for awhile with a

[MBZ] Jetta Diesel

2019-10-30 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Daimler switching out of developing natural gas powered trucks

2019-10-30 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I recall in rocket design the big factor was energy density of fuel by mass and volume, both of which dictate how much the rocket has to carry and contain, which affects various performance parameters. I’m sure the same factors are at play in OTR vehicle design. Seems like liquid hydrocarbons

Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
This is definitely the case... buyers know they're going to invest more. This car will probably need $10k in work to be well sorted again. Jaime On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 7:37 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > 10k was the answer. Seems like it was well bought,

Re: [MBZ] All electric cars

2019-10-30 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Yeah, that is a major point of electric cars: no trips to the filling station. Unless you drive long distance, which most people dont. Neighbor had a Cmax for awhile with a 40 mile range. He drove it 37 miles wo work every day, plugged it in, and drove it home again after work. Never went to the

Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
The cop enforcing our fire evacuation didnt let me in today, but he went on and on about how great my car is and how I should never sell it. I was like "great. Now can I go get some underwear?" No luck. On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 8:56 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Clean 300TD on BAT

2019-10-30 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
10k was the answer. Seems like it was well bought, pretty rust free and maybe a new transmission with new front ball joints etc. I suspect these cars are going to people who wont mind spending some maintenance dollars on them, which is what they will need to do. On Tue, Oct 29, 2019, 8:56 AM