Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil useage

2006-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
There is no such valve on the return lines. Its just a hole into the oil pan. Luther wrote: Turbo was from the '82 300D with 74kmi in unknown condition. Both the original turbo and the current one have no axial play but do have slight side to side. Tell me more about the foot valve. Is

Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil useage

2006-12-10 Thread Peter Frederick
Have you verified the amount of blowby your engine produces? You may also want to temporarily divert the blowby hose to a coffee can and drive a bit to see how much oil is blowing over. If there is a foot valve in the return line (and there has to be something, else the system wouldn't work

Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil useage

2006-12-10 Thread Jim Cathey
If there is a foot valve in the return line (and there has to be something, else the system wouldn't work very well), it will be on the end of the tube. It's pneumatics. Both top and bottom of the oil separator are exposed to crankcase pressures. Gravity breaks the tie vote. (The hose to the

Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil useage

2006-12-09 Thread Peter Frederick
What is the condition of the oil trap in the air filter? I believe you said it was OK, but don't remember. If split or leaking, it will dump quite a bit of oil down the intake -- ditto if the valve at the bottom of the return tube is bad, it can actually suck oil up out of the crankcase at

Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil useage

2006-12-09 Thread Luther
WHA? Valve at the bottom of the return tube? Didn't know there was one there..are you talking oil return tube??? The oil trap was swapped out with one from the 74kmi '82 300D and no change. Turbo has been swapped also. On Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:54:06 -0600, Peter Frederick [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil useage

2006-12-09 Thread Peter Frederick
Yup, there is supposed to be a foot valve on the air filter oil return line, I do believe (although I've been wrong a lot lately). The guts have to be in place in the oil trap, too -- it's a centrifugal filter, so the inlet pipe must be at an angle. Don't remember what it looks like any

[MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil useage

2006-12-08 Thread Luther
Ok, so it's an old subject, but Kaleb's posted the question to me several times about the cold starting on this car. This morning it was 13 degrees when I left for work. Glowed for 15 seconds (counted by the ticking of the dash clock) and turned the starter right after the glow light went out

Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil useage

2006-12-08 Thread Marshall Booth
Luther wrote: Ok, so it's an old subject, but Kaleb's posted the question to me several times about the cold starting on this car. This morning it was 13 degrees when I left for work. Glowed for 15 seconds (counted by the ticking of the dash clock) and turned the starter right after the glow

Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil useage

2006-12-08 Thread Rich Thomas
Look in the air filter, you should see gobs of oil in there from where the line from the vac pump goes in. If not, then there is some other problem with where the oil is going. I have a writeup here on rebuilding my vac pump. http://www.constructivity.net/rebuilding_the_vacuum_pump.htm

Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil useage

2006-12-08 Thread Luther
Really, I've seen that hose on the older non turbo 123's, but haven't noticed one on my CD. I'll have a look tonight after work. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D

Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil useage

2006-12-08 Thread Luther
Nope, no gobs of oil in the air cleaner. No vent out of the vacuum pump, only the main hard vacuum line. My vacuum pump looks identical to the one in Hans's 300SD. I'm still not convinced where the oil is going.. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83

Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil useage

2006-12-08 Thread kevin kraly
I'm still not convinced where the oil is going.. It's burnin', burnin', burnin'! Either that or there's some kid sucking it out at night while you're sleeping. Seriously, oil in the vac lines could be the source of the problem. You still haven't found any obvious signs of oil anywhere

Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil useage

2006-12-08 Thread Luther
I can't see how it goes from the vacuum pump to the engine on this car. There is no vent hose to the air cleaner, the IP shutoff valve is new, and the EGR is blocked off. Where else is there to loose oil? Could it be an IP seal sucking oil in and mixing it with the fuel??? -- Luther

Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil useage

2006-12-08 Thread Werner Fehlauer
PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil useage I can't see how it goes from the vacuum pump to the engine on this car. There is no vent hose to the air cleaner, the IP shutoff valve is new, and the EGR is blocked off. Where else is there to loose oil? Could it be an IP seal sucking oil