Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2009-01-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: No, but I probably will pull the other side have not tried to turn it over yet. When tom was looking at it for me he said the thing tried to start when they turned it over via starter. I dont want to turn it with the starter again till I see whats going on with the

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2009-01-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, after I turn it over by hand a few times, I will do a compression test to see what it shows. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: No, but I probably will pull the other side have not tried to turn it over yet. When tom was looking at it for me he said the thing tried to start

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2009-01-02 Thread Hendrik Fay
I would advise that you remove the front cover and inspect the state of the chain and it's components before using the starter to turn it over. Yes you may get away with it but you'd feel shitty if the chain jumps while you are compression testing and the motor goes clunk. Will you be able to

[MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Pulled the valve cover today to survey the damage. Looks like there is supposed to be a slide rail at the top of the head under the chain toward the middle side of the engine, which is not there. Is this correct? Looks like its broken which caused the valve cover to break. Chain is intact

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread OK Don
I've never looked at one of those engines, so it's hard to say - did you pull the other side and compare? Can you get someone to crank it by hand while you watch the cam followers go up and down? Don't know how you'd tell if valves were bent other than to see if they go down and come back up. On

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
Fraid you're gonna have to pull off the timing case. The piece that is broken off (find it here http://www.detali.ru/cat/cats/?cat=mb ) is situated between the two camshafts. Now the problem is that you have two holes in the cam cover. Why? Because something broke off in the bottom, got

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Frederick W Moir
Kaleb, et al. From the photos, it looks like a very worn chain, and/or a dead tensioning device. When the throttle is suddenly released, the chain rides up the back of the sprocket and part jams between the guide and the sprocket, putting a lot of pressure on the guide, eventually breaking

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No, but I probably will pull the other side have not tried to turn it over yet. When tom was looking at it for me he said the thing tried to start when they turned it over via starter. I dont want to turn it with the starter again till I see whats going on with the rails etc, make sure

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Im missing 110, and 119 and 128 appear to be broken as well. My theory is 110 broke, got drug across between the top of the chain and valve cover, and broke valve cover. It looks to me like 119 just bolts on from the top. But yes, Im sure the cover needs to come off just to be safe. Hendrik

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I figure whatever needs to be done with the rails, it also should probably have a new chain and tensioner as well. Frederick W Moir wrote: Kaleb, et al. From the photos, it looks like a very worn chain, and/or a dead tensioning device. When the throttle is suddenly released, the chain rides

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Hendrik Fay
Is 119 a lubricating guide? It appears to be matched to the semi-rectangular hole (which appears to have a piece stuck in it) http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/119brokenvalvecover/DSC02745.JPG There may well be quite a bit of plastic floating around in the motor, the oil pan may have to be dropped

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
not sure. Yes, Im sure there is still a good bit of plastic floating around. Hendrik Fay wrote: Is 119 a lubricating guide? It appears to be matched to the semi-rectangular hole (which appears to have a piece stuck in it) http://www.okiebenz.com/pics/119brokenvalvecover/DSC02745.JPG There

Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover

2008-12-29 Thread Tony Wirtel
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 119 broken valve cover On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Pulled the valve cover today to survey the damage. Looks like there is supposed to be a slide rail at the top of the head under the chain toward the middle side