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Curt Raymond wrote:
I still think the temp sensor for the gauge is bad, at best it
reads 10C high.
Have you checked ground
Hi Rusty,
Perhaps I missed an announcement - is Buyeuroparts still operational?
When I try to go there for Porsche parts I get re-routed to the MB site-
does than mean you no longer sell parts for non-MBs? If so can you
tell me who has your Porsche inventory?
Thx
Larry
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Hi Rusty,
Perhaps I missed an announcement - is Buyeuroparts still operational?
When I try to go there for Porsche parts I get re-routed
Go to buyMBparts.biz and there are instructions for other brands.
Hi Rusty,
Perhaps I missed an announcement - is Buyeuroparts still
operational? When I try to go there for Porsche parts I get
re-routed to the MB site- does than mean you no longer sell parts
for non-MBs? If so can you
So yesterday morning things seemed good, temp stayed below 100C.
Last night on the way home I got stuck in heavy traffic and the temp hung
around 110C with trips up to the white line just before the red line.
It was cool out, maybe 65F so outside temp is not much of a factor.
One time it was
Sorry Curt - coming into this late so I don't mean to be redundent. From
the sound of the description below - you have already done some work. My
first stop is always at the work I have done, making sure you have a fully
bled system with no air pockets. You already have the IR thermometer, so
I would definitely focus on the radiator. If you have some blocked or clogged
tubes it can manifest itself as you describe.
Your IR thermometer will tell you right away if you catch it while it is close
to overheating.
Look especially close at the center of the radiator.
Dan
On Aug 17, 2012,
The radiator is only 9 months old. I hope it isn't that.
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I would definitely focus on the radiator. If you have some blocked or
clogged tubes it can manifest itself as you describe.
Your IR thermometer will tell
I'd test the thermostat first, then consider the water pump.
Do you know the spec for how wide it should open and at which temperature? I'll
dig around, should have that somewhere.
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Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
So yesterday morning
What year, and engine?
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Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
So yesterday morning things seemed good, temp stayed below 100C.
Last night on the way home I got stuck in heavy traffic and the temp hung
around 110C with trips up to the white line
Thermostat for all 601 and non-turbo 602 should begin opening at 85 +/- 2,
fully open at 94 degrees centigrade (that's what they use in Germany, Rich and
Roger). Minimum stroke at 94 is 8mm.
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Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:
I'd test
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Sorry Curt - coming
Crudded up with what exactly? I've replaced pretty much all the coolant twice,
it came out mostly clean both times.
-Curt
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These symptoms have been going on for about 2 years now. Last spring I replaced
the thermostat with no change in symptoms.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:47:25 -0400
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-Curt
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:49:58 -0400
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This sounds exactly like a bad temp sensor or bad relay (most likely
the sensor which is only a switch in this case).
It's possible it has an air pocket, but that's easy to fix -- squeeze
the upper radiator hose flat (engine cold, of course) and crimp the
small top line from the radiator
.
-Curt
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with no change in symptoms.
-Curt
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This sounds exactly like a bad temp sensor or bad relay (most likely
the sensor which is only a switch in this case).
It's possible it has an air pocket, but that's easy to fix --
squeeze the upper radiator hose flat (engine cold, of course) and
crimp the small top line from the radiator to
You may have replaced bad with bad. Did you test old and new? They
can be bad right out of the box.
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Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD
I think Curt found with the IR thermometer, that the thermostat
appears to be working ok.
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There's also the possibility that the thermostat housing is corroded to the
point that the thermostat doesn't close the top port when it's fully open,
preventing full circulation of the coolant. I've never seen/experienced
this myself, but have read about it - here - though several years ago.
On
Curt Raymond wrote:
I still think the temp sensor for the gauge is bad, at best it
reads 10C high.
Have you checked ground connections? It should effect a lot
more than the temp gauge, but maybe that's the only one that's
catching your attention.
If it were my car, I would want to be
: Friday, August 17, 2012 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D continuing saga
First thing I did was a thermostat, then a radiator, the old one leaked a
little anyway so it was worth doing. I can see the temp gradient across the
radiator from inlet to outlet.
Would a little air pocket stick around
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