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Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 7:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber
Fred, never let a good crisis go to waste! Obvious to me that you need
That's ONE! No text, no attachment...
-Max
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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 9:01 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber
On 6/21/2010 8:
pm7...@comcast.net wrote:
Reply;
Honey, I have 42 pairs of shoes in the closet, can I store my new lavender pumps on your side?
Now, but you can store them at Jane's house. Her husband has my parts car in the
back yard.
Mitch.
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Clowns, et al.
The pre-chamber is $244 new from Rusty. Or $204 per his generous offer.
I have managed to clean up the threads on the original, install injector
and torque to spec.
I cannot, however, find an '87 190DT for $200 within a reasonable radius
of Boston, or anywhere else for that matter
Reply;
Honey, I have 42 pairs of shoes in the closet, can I store my new lavender
pumps on your side?
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber
> "Honey, I can buy a new prechamber for $300, or get an entire used car
> for $200. Is it OK if I store the used donor car over at [fill in
"Honey, I can buy a new prechamber for $300, or get an entire used car
for $200. Is it OK if I store the used donor car over at [fill in name
of friends]?"
New: $300. Good used: $200, and comes in recyclable packaging.
Sounds like a no-brainer to me!
-- Jim
On 6/21/2010 8:45 AM, Frederick W Moir wrote:
Max.
My wife's wise to that one!
Penalty of marrying an intelligent woman.
A friend did offer a parking space, and boy was I tempted!
Did get the pre-chamber threads cleaned up, the injector fits smoothly
and torques down to spec. We'll see, Hm
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Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 8:45 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber
Max.
My wife's wise to that one!
Penalty of marrying an intelligent woman.
A friend did offer a parking space, a
Max.
My wife's wise to that one!
Penalty of marrying an intelligent woman.
A friend did offer a parking space, and boy was I tempted!
Did get the pre-chamber threads cleaned up, the injector fits smoothly
and torques down to spec. We'll see, Hmmm?
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On 6/21/2010 7:17 AM, Dil
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[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Frederick W Moir
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 9:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber
Mitch.
True. may be hard to start.
The pre-chamber in the head and secure, then using the pl
Replace the pre-chamber.
They are not mild steel, and "repairs" will result in an injector
blowing out of the hold.
Peter
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Curt, Mitch.
The head numbers are different between 961 and 962, as are the
pre-chambers, sorta, kinda.
Geez, I miss Marshall. He would know.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On 6/18/2010 9:38 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Curt Raymond wrote:
Is that engine appreciably different from the 602 in a 300D?
I think w
Curt, et al.
AFAIK the 602.961 inclined pre-chambers are inclined in a different way
in a 601.962.
Early 961 and 962's Up to engine #3837 are the same, different after.
Don't quote me, I so confuzzed.
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On 6/18/2010 9:07 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
Is that engine appreciably
OK Don.
Right first time! Hip hip hooray! Someone reads Sanskrit a la Fred.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On 6/18/2010 8:54 PM, OK Don wrote:
FYI - this isn't thte hole in the head - the pre-chamber is inserted into
the head, a locking ring holds in the head, and the injector screws into the
pre-chamber. I
Rick.
All would agree that an "at leisure" welder in the neighborhood would be
a very good thing.
I don't, however, need a hole filled.
These are the (boogered) threads that hold in the injector.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On 6/18/2010 8:20 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
I doubt that you can helicoil so
Mitch.
True. may be hard to start.
The pre-chamber in the head and secure, then using the plastic crap
excluder to get the right angle and the wery wery carefully turn the handle.
After that I'll probably call Rusty!
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On 6/18/2010 7:23 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
Frederick W Moir w
Curt Raymond wrote:
Is that engine appreciably different from the 602 in a 300D?
I think with a 87 and a 90-93 OM602 one would have vertical injection and the
other inclined, which would mean different heads and prechambers at least.
Mitch.
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A well stocked machine shop would have the tap & h-coil. $50 would be a
high price to do the work.
-Pete-
On 6/18/2010 5:37 PM, Frederick W Moir wrote:
Rick, et al.
That would be my next guess, although an M22x1.5 helicoil kit may cost
as much as a new pre-chamber.
Onward and upward.
Fred
Is that engine appreciably different from the 602 in a 300D?
-Curt
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:59:15 -0400
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FYI - this isn't thte hole in the head - the pre-chamber is inserted into
the head, a locking ring holds in the head, and the injector screws into the
pre-chamber. I read the problem as being the injector holding htreads inside
the pre-chamber. I could have mis-read however.
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 a
I'd think that a new one is worth the expense, but that's just my 2 cents.
Walt
On Jun 18, 2010 8:20 PM, "Rick Knoble" wrote:
> I doubt that you can helicoil something as thin as the pre-chamber, but
then
> again, I've neve...
Another thought would be to have the old hole welded up and then d
> I doubt that you can helicoil something as thin as the pre-chamber, but then
> again, I've never asked about it.
Another thought would be to have the old hole welded up and then drill a new
hole and tap it.
My local weld shop guy can weld cast iron, aluminum, steel, stainless. He can't
weld
Frederick W Moir wrote:
I'm going to try a M22x1.5 bottom tap on it, when the head comes back
Can you set it up in a drill press to hold alignment, and turn the chuck by
hand, maybe using a chuck key for a handle?
It can be fun to get a bottoming tap started straight by hand,, especially if
I doubt that you can helicoil something as thin as the pre-chamber, but then
again, I've never asked about it.
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Frederick W Moir wrote:
> Rick, et al.
> That would be my next guess, although an M22x1.5 helicoil kit may cost as
> much as a new pre-chamber.
> Onward
Rick, et al.
That would be my next guess, although an M22x1.5 helicoil kit may cost
as much as a new pre-chamber.
Onward and upward.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel headache #5
On 6/18/2010 5:04 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
I've never had a head for these apart yet, but can you have the
machine shop helico
> No, no cracks, just some ham-fisted as...le cross-threaded the injector
> and damaged the threads in the pre-chamber. (How do you do that?!!).
> I'm going to try a M22x1.5 bottom tap on it, when the head comes back
> from the machine shop. Clean and skim.
I've never had a head for these apar
Rolf, et al.
No, no cracks, just some ham-fisted as...le cross-threaded the injector
and damaged the threads in the pre-chamber. (How do you do that?!!).
I'm going to try a M22x1.5 bottom tap on it, when the head comes back
from the machine shop. Clean and skim.
TTFN
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
On 6/18/
, Rusty Cullens wrote:
I can do it for $204.00
Rusty Cullens
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- Original Message - From: "Frederick W Moir"
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Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:47 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber
Hi, all.
Does a
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- Original Message - From: "Frederick W Moir"
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Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:47 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber
Hi, all.
Does anyone have a pre-chamber for an '87 190DT, 602.961?
P/N 6010101552.
I'd like to buy a
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:47 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 190DT Prechamber
Hi, all.
Does anyone have a pre-chamber for an '87 190DT, 602.961?
P/N 6010101552.
I'd like to buy a good used one, as MB's $244+ is almost what I paid for
the car.
TIA
F
Hi, all.
Does anyone have a pre-chamber for an '87 190DT, 602.961?
P/N 6010101552.
I'd like to buy a good used one, as MB's $244+ is almost what I paid for
the car.
TIA
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel headache #5
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