Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-04-05 Thread Fmiser
> > > Mitch Haley wrote: > > > > > > As I read my own post, I suddenly realize that if the fuel > > > system needs priming, I should jumper the fuel pump relay > > > socket instead of cranking the starter. > > Fmiser wrote: > > > >Heh! I was about to suggest that. It's one of the advantages

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-04-05 Thread Dieselhead
So the jumper is the solution. LnL Sounds like an "improvement" that does not work so well to me. I like my Diesels. Dieselhead wrote: The 'lectric FP should run when the key is "on" until it hits the pressure limit. Should not be a need for a jumper. Am I missing something? The o

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-04-05 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: The 'lectric FP should run when the key is "on" until it hits the pressure limit. Should not be a need for a jumper. Am I missing something? The old Saabs used to have a timer in the pump relay, ran for about 5 seconds IIRC. My 190e does something similar, and I think i

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-04-05 Thread Dieselhead
> Mitch Haley wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: > It just took 5 start attempts to get the system primed > again. Now I've got to prime it all over again when I > replace the filter (which cost me more than the used pump, > BTW). As I read my own post, I suddenly realize that if the fuel sys

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-04-05 Thread Fmiser
> Mitch Haley wrote: > Mitch Haley wrote: > > It just took 5 start attempts to get the system primed > > again. Now I've got to prime it all over again when I > > replace the filter (which cost me more than the used pump, > > BTW). > > As I read my own post, I suddenly realize that if the fuel >

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-04-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Max Dillon wrote: I wonder if the old pump can be rebuilt? No idea. It measured open circuit from the relay's pump terminal to ground, so I think it might have a bad motor winding or brush. Used ones run $35-60 on eBay. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-04-04 Thread Max Dillon
I wonder if the old pump can be rebuilt? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-04-04 Thread WILTON
OK; 'nother ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start Finally, it's alive! What I did after finding out that

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-04-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote: It just took 5 start attempts to get the system primed again. Now I've got to prime it all over again when I replace the filter (which cost me more than the used pump, BTW). As I read my own post, I suddenly realize that if the fuel system needs priming, I should jumper th

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-04-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Finally, it's alive! What I did after finding out that I had power at the fuel pump relay and that jumpering the relay socket did not get me any fuel pressure under the hood: I bought a used "e320" fuel pump on eBay. When it got here last week, I crawled under to R&R it and found the old pump

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-03-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: Mitch, Sorry I didn't recognize the original post as your initials. The ones without my name in the headers came from the hospital parking lot through my ISP's webmail host. It feels good to have the car in my driveway after leaving it there overnight. First time I ever us

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-03-22 Thread Dieselhead
Mitch, Sorry I didn't recognize the original post as your initials. I think that is a good choice. I bought a used fuel pump for the 380 and it turned out ok for at least 5 yrs. ...so far, so good. Good luck! I hope that solves the problem. I hope you get a break in the weather to change

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-03-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: eBay has them for about $80 or less Thanks, I bought an OE pump with bracket for $31.50. Hopefully it doesn't have as many miles on it as the one that came with my car. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-03-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: eBay has them for about $80 or less Bosch, used OE, or Beck-Arnley? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-03-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
eBay has them for about $80 or less Sent from my iPhone On Mar 22, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Big Blue is sitting on my Landgrebe dolly in my driveway, with a battery > charger on an extension cord. > > I like that dolly better than a Demco Kar Kaddy. > Tows like a dream, at leas

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-03-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Big Blue is sitting on my Landgrebe dolly in my driveway, with a battery charger on an extension cord. I like that dolly better than a Demco Kar Kaddy. Tows like a dream, at least at 30mph. It's nice not to have to wonder if the dolly fenders will steer into the car's fenders when you turn arou

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-03-22 Thread mlh
> I found this which seems to pertain. Oops, supposed to be a link: http://www.justanswer.com/mercedes/7ktw9-e320-1999-e320-two-days-ago-car-quit-driving.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives htt

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-03-22 Thread mlh
I found this which seems to pertain. I have voltage at one terminal of the fuel pump relay under the back seat with ignition off and voltage at another with ignition on. I have 0.6V from ground to the relay terminal that's switched by the relay, seems like it should be 0.0V. Can't hear pump over tr

Re: [MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-03-22 Thread Dieselhead
Not sure on that model, but the 60 to 87 gassers, it is near the RR axle. Take a couple of long wires to run jumper to the battery. Check wiring and ground if you can first. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

[MBZ] 1999 e320 still won't start

2013-03-22 Thread mlh
Today it won't fire at all. Borrowed a better code reader from FLAPS, it knew there had been an evaporative emissions event since last reset, my Scangauge didn't mention that. In scrolling through all the available readings, the only thing that caught my attention was MAP = 0.0 " hg, no matter whe