Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Hey Kaleb, the price is lower than I remember on the DTI timing unit. Call them up and ask if it works with MBZ. Only around $500 with 5mm and 6mm pickups. http://tinytach.com/design/timing.php The Ferret 765 that I have lists for $239. Before Ferret became a part of GXT they would sell refurbs

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Mitch Haley
John Robbins wrote: > > The dynamic tool puts a sensor in that port instead of the "feelers" > (similar to an ABS sensor). You also have to hook up the tach signal, > etc. This not only checks the basic timing, but can check the timing > advance device (since you can change the RPMs etc). I'v

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread John Robbins
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > Any of them I have seen for sale is the 2 led deal. Rusty has those... PN: 617-589-08-21-00 IIRC it was close to $300. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
n List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP > Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: >> Whats the other one with the engine running? I have not looked at/paid >> attention to the tools used on the 60x engines too much. > > There is a little ton

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Luther
Head bolt tool, pre-chamber knockout tool, and timing chain slide rail puller. Luther On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:03:21 -0600, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Luther wrote: >> Was a one time/used sale from a list member. Included the other >> tools needed to do the OM60x head R&R. > > Oh w

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread John Robbins
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > Whats the other one with the engine running? I have not looked at/paid > attention to the tools used on the 60x engines too much. There is a little tong on a flywheel internal to the IP. There is a little port on the side of the IP and when the tong is in the c

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Luther
Trader > 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor > > - Original Message - > From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:01 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP > > > -- Luther KB5QHU

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
cedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP > Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: >> I need to get one badly, as many of these thigns as I work on, I do for >> sure. > > You can get the RIV tool from Rusty (the one where y

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
November 12, 2007 11:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP > Was a one time/used sale from a list member. Included the other tools > needed to do the OM60x head R&R. > > > On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:50:25 -0600, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >>

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread John Robbins
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: > I need to get one badly, as many of these thigns as I work on, I do for > sure. You can get the RIV tool from Rusty (the one where you time it with the engine off). It was less than $300 I think. It is really expensive for what it is though... John

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread John Robbins
Luther wrote: > Was a one time/used sale from a list member. Included the other > tools needed to do the OM60x head R&R. Oh well... How many other tools did you need to do the head job? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: ht

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Luther
Was a one time/used sale from a list member. Included the other tools needed to do the OM60x head R&R. On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:50:25 -0600, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Luther wrote: >> My source is sealed, but it was a great deal. > > Is it the fully electronic dynamic (with engin

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
12, 2007 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP > Luther wrote: >> My source is sealed, but it was a great deal. > > Is it the fully electronic dynamic (with engine running) tester? Does > your source have any more? > > John > > > __

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread John Robbins
Luther wrote: > My source is sealed, but it was a great deal. Is it the fully electronic dynamic (with engine running) tester? Does your source have any more? John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.co

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Well if anybody finds one for sale, let me know. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Luther
t; > - Original Message - > From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:17 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP > > >> Electronic. >> >> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 09:58:19

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
Where did yuo get that? I need to get one of those --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 10:17 AM Subje

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Luther
r" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:50 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP > > >> Did I need to loan you that too?? Geeze. >> >> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:42:43 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EM

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
you have the timing tool? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: "Luther" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP > Di

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-12 Thread Luther
Did I need to loan you that too?? Geeze. On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 19:42:43 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well got that rebuilt IP installed, and it fired right up. It is > however missing and I have too much smoke (blue/grey) Was idling > perfect with the old pump and no smo

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, I had it a 15 ATDC. How do I check to see if the timer is set properly? This is my first outing with a IP deal. Peter Frederick wrote: > 15 ATDC, not BTDC. The actual injection starts at 24 or 26 BTDC, just > like the older injection pumps, but the nipple on the governor drive > were t

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-10 Thread Peter Frederick
15 ATDC, not BTDC. The actual injection starts at 24 or 26 BTDC, just like the older injection pumps, but the nipple on the governor drive were the locking tool fits lines up with the tool at 15 ATDC. Make sure the pump is NOT 180 degrees out -- they will actually run that way (fuel sprayed in

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its loud and smoky, before its was quiet and smooth. As I mentioned it is missing, I loosened each line and I was not really able to say it was coming from any certain cylinder, so thats why Im thinking the timing has to be off. I did have it locked with the tool, and the engine sitting at 15

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-10 Thread Peter Frederick
I don't see why not, they are adjusted that way with the electronic tool! Lots of noise or very quiet and smoky? If you run it til it warms up, late timing will give you excessive smoke at high speeds but quiet idle, too fast will give you excessive idle noise warm and smoke at low speeds, ty

[MBZ] 2.5 turbo IP

2007-11-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well got that rebuilt IP installed, and it fired right up. It is however missing and I have too much smoke (blue/grey) Was idling perfect with the old pump and no smoke. Im going to assume its not timed exactly spot on. Can I loosen the the bolts and adjust the pump a little while its runni