Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-08 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
ot in charge. YMMV Fred Moir. Lynn MA. Diesel preferred. From: Mercedes on behalf of Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes Sent: 08 December 2016 06:33 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Ralph,'84TD Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem It is the SDL car,

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-08 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
33 To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Ralph,'84TD Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem It is the SDL car, thanks for the input. My next question is simpler; should I have an A/C specialist do this testing work, or a garage that works mainly on European Vehicles? I have both in

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-08 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Ralph, What you need is a shop that has the wiring diagrams for your car, and as Dan said a DC Voltmeter, and then the skill to combine both in order to perform some tests and determine the problem. An MB (or European) specialist should be faster (less shop time, maybe less $$$) because they alre

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-08 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
There is nothing specialized about the system on this car that would require unique or unusual equipment. Any come tent AC shop can work on it if they are willing. If this is for your SDL then there is no evaporator cutoff switch as I previously described - that would be present in your W123 or

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-08 Thread Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes
It is the SDL car, thanks for the input.  My next question is simpler;  should I have an A/C specialist do this testing work, or a garage that works mainly on European Vehicles?  I have both in the area.The garage that gave me my latest input does not have the specialized A/C. equipment needed,

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Pretty easy, acutally. Check for voltage at the low pressure switch and a ground on one side -- the PBCU grounds the signal from the Klima relay to switch the compressor on. If you have voltage and a ground, the relay is bad (usually cracked solder on the actual relay) OR the low pressure

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It's a fool's errand to repair a blower motor in a W123. Simply buy a used one for $40 and swap it in. Better yet, get two. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > Ralph, > > Since they were poking around in the vicinity of the heater box where your > blower motor is locat

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Ralph, Since they were poking around in the vicinity of the heater box where your blower motor is located, I would take a look at the compressor cut out switch that's located on the heater box. It's a thermal switch with a capillary tube that extends into the heater/evaporator box. If you look

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
+1 Max beat me to it, and said it well. On my cars, KLIMA has always been the failure. There is a place in FL who sells rebuilt Klima relays. You can pull the klime and jump two terminals in the socket to test if this is the problem. I use 12 ga solid copper house wire for making the jumpe

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Assuming this is the SDL. Sounds like the serpentine belt saving feature, which cuts the compressor clutch power signal, is the issue. In the KLIMA relay, the circuitry compares the compressor speed (from a sensor on the back of the compressor) to the engine speed, and if they are too far apar

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
There is a very specific ordered and detailed yet simple test for checking this in the manual. If your shop has no clue what the cause is then they have no clue. Is this the same shop that reversed the wiring? To answer your question the problem is most likely the klima relay, could be the pbu,

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Where are you Ralph? Let us find you a DECENT mechanic. On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 2:35 PM, Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I had my A/C,heater motor brushes replaced and exerienced a problem after > the wires were replaced in reverse. Had this fixed and now I have troub

Re: [MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 7 Dec 2016 19:35:07 + (UTC) "Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes" wrote: > I had my A/C,heater motor brushes replaced and exerienced a problem > after the wires were replaced in reverse.  Had this fixed and now I > have trouble with my compressor not kicking in.  Had it checked out, > but the ga

[MBZ] 300SDL A/C electrical problem

2016-12-07 Thread Ralph,'84TD via Mercedes
I had my A/C,heater motor brushes replaced and exerienced a problem after the wires were replaced in reverse.  Had this fixed and now I have trouble with my compressor not kicking in.  Had it checked out, but the garage cannot find what is causing the problem.  They tell me I have power at the f