Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-19 Thread MG via Mercedes
Sounds like a sure recipe for disaster. Or at least it would be if I was to do the welding. That's why I was wondering about the swap idea. I've never even seen a 603/Nippondenso mount. I have seen pictures of an aluminum mount that was on some MB that someone had put on a 617 that looked like

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-19 Thread MG via Mercedes
Yes two different ones or there were, haven't looked it up in about a year now but last info I saw still had problems with cracking in the mount. That's why I figured that an MB original would be designed right and work without problems. Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Isn't there a conversi

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Send money to the Heckflose fund Floyd Thursby via Mercedes June 18, 2017 at 11:38 AM If you could please do a detailed writeup on what you do with this project, maybe some pics too, it would be most valuable. (I know I am asking a lot!) --FT

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Isn't there a conversion kit to run a ND, or sanyo or some such in place of the GM, or is that only to replace yorkies? MG via Mercedes June 18, 2017 at 2:07 PM Don't care about the hoses. What I want is to be able to use the Nippondenso in place of the R4. Redoi

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Hmmm, cast aluminum 603/Nippondenso mount, plus cast aluminum 617/R4 mount (do they make this in aluminum?) plus band saw, plus MIG welder... Mitch > On June 18, 2017 at 7:05 PM MG via Mercedes wrote: > > > It's basically the same thing as the using that aftermarket kit > to put in a Sanden

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread MG via Mercedes
It's basically the same thing as the using that aftermarket kit to put in a Sanden compressor except I'm not too impressed with the quality of those kits. They still seem to have unresolved problems. I figure if the mount for the Nippondenso bolts onto a 617 then all I have to do is use the hos

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Well let us know how it does. I have never heard of it being done. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 18, 2017, at 2:07 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > > Don't care about the hoses. What I want is to be able to use the Nippondenso > in place of the R4. Redoing the hoses is inconsequential. > > Kaleb

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Ok, I thought the condenser came before the compressor... Cury Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Compressor>Condenser>Expansion Valve>Evaporator My memory's a little hazy on where the receiver/dryer/filter goes. > On June 18, 2017 at 5:15

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Compressor>Condenser>Expansion Valve>Evaporator My memory's a little hazy on where the receiver/dryer/filter goes. > On June 18, 2017 at 5:15 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Wouldn't a dead compressor dump into the evaporator? > -Curt ___ http:

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Wouldn't a dead compressor dump into the evaporator? -Curt From: Dan--- via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: "d...@penoff.com" Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors And yes, Karl, it was a package deal from Four Seas

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
OK I see it on Rock Auto, never mind... --FT On 6/18/17 3:07 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote: I go to http://www.4s.com/en/ and you can get the list of stuff for a particular car http://ecatalog.smpcorp.com/FS/#/vehicles/Id/246406 which is great but then how do you buy stuff? Or you go through anot

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I go to http://www.4s.com/en/ and you can get the list of stuff for a particular car http://ecatalog.smpcorp.com/FS/#/vehicles/Id/246406 which is great but then how do you buy stuff? Or you go through another vendor to get the package deal? Link please! --FT On 6/18/17 3:00 PM, Dan--- via

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread MG via Mercedes
Don't care about the hoses. What I want is to be able to use the Nippondenso in place of the R4. Redoing the hoses is inconsequential. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I doubt it. Hoses are completely different. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2017, at 1:44 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
And yes, Karl, it was a package deal from Four Seasons. Compressor, receiver/dryer and expansion valve. They also want you to flush the system, but since I'm replacing all the lines, condenser and adding a screen in the suction side of the compressor, I'm covered. -D __

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Yeah, I can't believe I forgot to check them. I was going down the list of suppliers I use and I totally forgot them. Thanks for reminding me. And yes, replacing the expansion valve on a W126 is a real PITA, so I've heard. There are some good DIYs for it on Benzworld. According to some, removin

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I doubt it. Hoses are completely different. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 18, 2017, at 1:44 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > > Will the mount for the Nippondenso fit on the 617? > > Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: >> 615 engine will have an R4, 603 will have the Nippondenso. Not >> interchan

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread MG via Mercedes
Will the mount for the Nippondenso fit on the 617? Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: 615 engine will have an R4, 603 will have the Nippondenso. Not interchangeable, the R4 won't fit on the 603. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http:/

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
So you discovered rock auto was cheaper in this case? That expansion valve is a bitch to replace in those. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 18, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I just cancelled my AutohausAZ order and ordered the whole shebang from Rock > Auto. New Denso

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
If you buy the compressor from RockAuto can you also buy the dryer expansion valve Etc all Four Seasons Equipment, that's all warrantied against failure. At least one of my compressors was free under this program. On Jun 18, 2017 11:25 AM, "Peter Frederick via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wr

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
615 engine will have an R4, 603 will have the Nippondenso. Not interchangeable, the R4 won't fit on the 603. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.o

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It would be the R4 Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 18, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > So which should I get for the SD? I see the Nippondenso but also GM R4s? I > think I want to get it running in the car that munched the compressor. What > else should I get? New

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Yes, I did. I had a 5% discount that expired today, thankfully, so the combination of compressor, expansion valve, receiver/dryer and O ring kit cost me under $250 with shipping. Will do. I’m not going to tear into this until next weekend after the youngest boy leaves town. He’s driving the

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Excellent thanks. Do you get the oring kit from Rock too? If you could please do a detailed writeup on what you do with this project, maybe some pics too, it would be most valuable. (I know I am asking a lot!) --FT On 6/18/17 12:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I just cancelled my A

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I just cancelled my AutohausAZ order and ordered the whole shebang from Rock Auto. New Denso compressor, receiver/dryer and expansion valve were about $240.00. The expansion valve in these cars is inexpensive and should be changed if you had a compressor failure, as it’s likely that crud from

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Yeah the sites all show the R4 being a choice. What about the orifice? Should I replace that? Can you get all this stuff from Rock or FCP or wherever? What about an o-ring set? Are those like a standard package? The AC on the boy's car I have now worked when we got it on R12, I guess it ju

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Probably an R4, I’m guessing, but it’s dependent on the model year. Definitely a new receiver/dryer - any time the system is open that’s a must! -D > On Jun 18, 2017, at 12:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > So which should I get for the SD? I see the Nippondenso but also GM R

[MBZ] AC Compressors

2017-06-18 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
So which should I get for the SD? I see the Nippondenso but also GM R4s? I think I want to get it running in the car that munched the compressor. What else should I get? New hoses, dryer, what else? This car was running 134 until the compressor crapped. Or I could pull the compressor off

Re: [MBZ] AC Compressors

2016-06-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 20:47:29 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > Denso compressor is OEM for my ML which I need to order a new > compressor for. They are $258 at Importec. Nissens is a little > cheaper but not enough for me to try. For future reference are > Nissens any good? I ha

[MBZ] AC Compressors

2016-06-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Denso compressor is OEM for my ML which I need to order a new compressor for. They are $258 at Importec. Nissens is a little cheaper but not enough for me to try. For future reference are Nissens any good? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archi