Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty

2013-12-18 Thread Gary Hurst
you make a very compelling point here, alex, with a line of reasoning that i'm quite sympathetic to On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: > On Dec 16, 2013 8:59 PM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > > > > do i even like this guy? i think i ought > > to like him if i'm going to > > supp

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2013-12-18 Thread Gary Hurst
e > > Sent from My Samsung tablet > > Original message > From Gary Hurst > Date: 12/16/2013 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00) > To Mercedes Discussion List > Subject Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty > > i guess i'm interested enough in you to be interested in things th

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2013-12-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Dec 16, 2013 8:59 PM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > > do i even like this guy? i think i ought > to like him if i'm going to > support him for such a position > Why would you? This is the same Peter who wants to enact punitive taxes on private car ownership -- the latter being the reason we're all o

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2013-12-18 Thread rickknoble
rites on. Rick Knoble Sent from My Samsung tablet Original message >From Gary Hurst Date: 12/16/2013 10:00 PM (GMT-06:00) To Mercedes Discussion List Subject Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty i guess i'm interested enough in you to be interested in things that matter abo

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2013-12-16 Thread Scott Ritchey
013 11:15 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty Better than a major depression, but the Fed has taken the wrong approach here. Low interest rates work when the money is used to build factories and employ people. Since we de-industrialized starting in the 70&

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2013-12-16 Thread Gary Hurst
do i even like this guy? i think i ought to like him if i'm going to support him for such a position On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:44 PM, OK Don wrote: > President of the world. > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Gary Hurst > wrote: > > > president of kleblist? > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2

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2013-12-16 Thread OK Don
President of the world. On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: > president of kleblist? > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:33 PM, OK Don wrote: > > > I vote for Peter for president -- > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Peter Frederick > >wrote: > > > > > Better than a ma

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2013-12-16 Thread Gary Hurst
president of kleblist? On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:33 PM, OK Don wrote: > I vote for Peter for president -- > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Peter Frederick >wrote: > > > Better than a major depression, but the Fed has taken the wrong approach > > here. Low interest rates work when the

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2013-12-16 Thread OK Don
I vote for Peter for president -- On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: > Better than a major depression, but the Fed has taken the wrong approach > here. Low interest rates work when the money is used to build factories > and employ people. Since we de-industrialized starti

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2013-12-16 Thread Gary Hurst
i guess i'm interested enough in you to be interested in things that matter about you On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: > On Dec 16, 2013, at 2:26 PM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > > > you a grain guy or more a paleo meat kinda guy? > > > Paleo, I 'spose. > > Why? > > Rick > Sent fro

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2013-12-16 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 16, 2013, at 2:26 PM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > you a grain guy or more a paleo meat kinda guy? Paleo, I 'spose. Why? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or chan

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2013-12-16 Thread Gary Hurst
you a grain guy or more a paleo meat kinda guy? On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: > On Dec 16, 2013, at 12:32 PM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > > > at least we invaded afghanistan for a good reason -- cheap heroin for the > > war on drugs > > > And Pipe-line-a-Stan. > > http://en.wik

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2013-12-16 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 16, 2013, at 12:32 PM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > at least we invaded afghanistan for a good reason -- cheap heroin for the > war on drugs And Pipe-line-a-Stan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline But some think not. http://www.911myths.com/html/9_11_and_the_afghan_p

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2013-12-16 Thread Gary Hurst
at least we invaded afghanistan for a good reason -- cheap heroin for the war on drugs On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: > On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:37 AM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > > > can we just > > forever put a gun in everyone's ear and tell them they can only buy oil > > with t

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2013-12-16 Thread Rick Knoble
On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:37 AM, "Gary Hurst" wrote: > can we just > forever put a gun in everyone's ear and tell them they can only buy oil > with the greenback dollar? Well we invaded Iraq for not doing that. We invaded Libya for not doing that. We will probably invade Iran for not doing that.

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2013-12-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Dieselhead wrote: So Dodd Frank is Reagan's fault? No, no, the Dems are taking credit for Dodd-Frank as the cure-all for G-L-B. It's Gramm–Leach–Bliley that's all Reagan's fault, despite the fact that William Jefferson Clinton signed it into law in 1999. While Dem supporters all seem to be in

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2013-12-16 Thread Dieselhead
So Dodd Frank is Reagan's fault? Peter Frederick wrote: Not to say I told you so, but the "Reagan Revolution" was only a revolution in the same way the engine rotation is a revolution -- the whole idea was to undo the banking regulation and tax system that had protected us from market and ba

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2013-12-16 Thread Peter Frederick
Better than a major depression, but the Fed has taken the wrong approach here. Low interest rates work when the money is used to build factories and employ people. Since we de-industrialized starting in the 70's, low interest rates just produce churn in the stock and bond markets and resu

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2013-12-16 Thread Gary Hurst
which lasts for how much longer before the bottom falls out? can we just forever put a gun in everyone's ear and tell them they can only buy oil with the greenback dollar? On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Craig wrote: > On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:56:00 -0500 Rich Thomas > wrote: > > > cf. "quant

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2013-12-16 Thread Craig
On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 08:56:00 -0500 Rich Thomas wrote: > cf. "quantitative easing" In other words, "printing money out of thin air and debasing the currency." Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Uns

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2013-12-16 Thread Rich Thomas
cf. "quantitative easing" --R On 12/16/13 8:51 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: see, this is what i'm wondering about. the USA is pretty much sucked dry yet corporate profits and stock prices are at a record high. maybe there is a message here that they can do it without the USA? y'know, sell KFC to t

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2013-12-16 Thread Gary Hurst
see, this is what i'm wondering about. the USA is pretty much sucked dry yet corporate profits and stock prices are at a record high. maybe there is a message here that they can do it without the USA? y'know, sell KFC to the chinese and just keep the USA as a military and service slave class th

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2013-12-16 Thread Peter Frederick
The rich can get richer only so long as they can screw money out of the banking system and manipulate stock prices for excessive gain. Once that runs dry it will be tulip bulbs all over again. We have had a hollow economy since Reagan was elected, with the expected (and widely predicted) r

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2013-12-16 Thread Gary Hurst
but it does get the rich super richer and gets more people into the super rich. basically it has destroyed the US economy forever so a few more people can have mansions and yachts. the tricky question for me is how do the corporations and wall street continue to rake is in the insane money when t

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2013-12-16 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Frederick wrote: Not to say I told you so, but the "Reagan Revolution" was only a revolution in the same way the engine rotation is a revolution -- the whole idea was to undo the banking regulation and tax system that had protected us from market and banking collapses that happened every

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2013-12-15 Thread Peter Frederick
Not to say I told you so, but the "Reagan Revolution" was only a revolution in the same way the engine rotation is a revolution -- the whole idea was to undo the banking regulation and tax system that had protected us from market and banking collapses that happened every couple years before

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2013-12-15 Thread Mountain Man
Scott wrote: > The problem occurs when that greed that is enabled by government > enforced monopolies and government suppression of potential competition that > enshrines the status quo. Yep. This was clearly expressed in 1840 by Frederic Bastiat - The Law. DuckDuckGo to find it online. Short l

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2013-12-15 Thread Mountain Man
Gary wrote: > the reagan revolution turned out to be something very different > than what i believed it to be 30 years ago Absolutely!! +1 mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delive

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2013-12-15 Thread Rich Thomas
Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty medical system is broken. all about greed. greed has broken much in this country. the reagan revolution turned out to be something very different than what i believed it to

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2013-12-15 Thread Scott Ritchey
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 1:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty medical system is broken. all about greed. greed has broken much in this country. the reagan revolution turned out

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2013-12-15 Thread Rich Thomas
No it was the ivory Mamabenz SD with the new alternator. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Dec 15, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Tim Crone wrote: Did they drive a dark blue SD on Rogers to get there? I was driving the invisible van to take the children someplace and noticed there was an alien on the road. (I

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2013-12-15 Thread Tim Crone
Did they drive a dark blue SD on Rogers to get there? I was driving the invisible van to take the children someplace and noticed there was an alien on the road. (Is it bad that, after living here 5 months, I only know 30% of the neighbors, but I recognize all the local adult European cars?) Anyw

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2013-12-14 Thread Gary Hurst
medical system is broken. all about greed. greed has broken much in this country. the reagan revolution turned out to be something very different than what i believed it to be 30 years ago i had a japanese doctor who'd just fix stuff in the office. but he is dead now so i have sworn off doctor

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2013-12-14 Thread Rich Thomas
All the urgent care places closed at 8PM when they decided at 8:15 to get it tended, so off to the zoo. Now she has alternator infection, yay. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Dec 14, 2013, at 1:50 PM, OK Don wrote: That's what the "minor emergency" clinics are for. Our son cut a finger nearly t

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2013-12-14 Thread Mountain Man
Peter wrote: > If he answered the phone, he was > in, and would clean you up and stitch up cuts, etc. for $5. > > Sad state we are in when you cannot get a simple cut stitched without a > three hour wait. Three hours? - Rich said 9.5 hours. Sad state is the understatement. $5 can't even buy $tar$

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2013-12-14 Thread Curt Raymond
ent 8 odd hours waiting for an x-ray to tell me nothing was broken, put a splint on it and wait... -Curt Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 11:04:02 -0500 From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii So the gir

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2013-12-14 Thread OK Don
That's what the "minor emergency" clinics are for. Our son cut a finger nearly to the bone playing with the wheels on his compound bow one Sat. AM. A trip to the minor emergency clinic and his finger was sown up and we were on our way in less than an hour (including insurance paperwork, etc.). On

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2013-12-14 Thread WILTON
ast) with UNC degree. Wilt - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty No, grad was yesterday in Gboro at the Coliseum. quite a large event, surprising.

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2013-12-14 Thread Peter Frederick
When we were kids this was a quick trip up to the local GP's office, made it several times myself, any hour of the day. If he answered the phone, he was in, and would clean you up and stitch up cuts, etc. for $5. Sad state we are in when you cannot get a simple cut stitched without a thr

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2013-12-14 Thread Rich Thomas
uot;Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty > So the girl and Dr. Mom went to the UNC ER last night @ 8:30PM and got back @ > 6AM after finally getting the alternator laceration stitched up by the 3rd > doc

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2013-12-14 Thread WILTON
Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty So the girl and Dr. Mom went to the UNC ER last night @ 8:30PM and got back @ 6AM after finally getting the alternator lacerat

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2013-12-14 Thread Rich Thomas
So the girl and Dr. Mom went to the UNC ER last night @ 8:30PM and got back @ 6AM after finally getting the alternator laceration stitched up by the 3rd doc to deal with it. The first, an intern, was lost, the second, a resident cleaned it up, and finally a real doc came and stitched it. 9.5 h

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2013-12-14 Thread WILTON
Thnks. Wilt - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alternator casualty On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 22:30:13 -0500 "WILTON" wrote: BTW, #1 grandson likely finished h

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2013-12-13 Thread Craig
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 22:30:13 -0500 "WILTON" wrote: > BTW, #1 grandson likely finished his studies in Chapel Hill this week, > also; heading to Paris and other points in Europe in Jan. for rest (3 > semesters) of his masters studies. We all wish him well. Craig

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2013-12-13 Thread WILTON
f his masters studies. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Rich Thomas" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 9:31 PM Subject: [MBZ] Alternator casualty So in Greensboro today attending daughter's graduation and after we worked on s

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2013-12-13 Thread Craig
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 21:31:10 -0500 Rich Thomas wrote: > It was not even necessary, so lost a good Bosch for the POS. That really must have griped you. > Anyway, daughter was helping me as she likes this sort of thing, Wonderful! Encourage it! > and was below to catch the POS as I was lettin

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2013-12-13 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: Anyway, daughter was helping me as she likes this sort of thing, and was below to catch the POS as I was letting it down, and sliced a finger good, somehow. I always remember to wear gloves, right after my hand starts bleeding. Mitch.

[MBZ] Alternator casualty

2013-12-13 Thread Rich Thomas
So in Greensboro today attending daughter's graduation and after we worked on swapping a new Bosch alternator for the chinee POS the shop put on, which failed. It was not even necessary, so lost a good Bosch for the POS. So now a new Bosch which is fine. Drove the car from Gboro blasting alon