[MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-26 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Yes, I know, old news to most of you. But I'd never driven one for any significant length of time until my indy lent me one for two days while working on my 124. Now I know what "drive it like you stole it" REALLY means! It maintained cruising speed just fine on the flat, but it's pretty disconc

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-26 Thread Ed Booher
Reminds me of an article I read in the Indy Star a couple of years ago when the first of the new Beetle Convertibles came out. I don't remember it verbatim, but the general idea was this: When you press the pedal to the floor, in true German efficiency, the engine files a request in triplicate to

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-26 Thread Dave M.
... gotta get that intercooler installed, Casey-style... :-) Best regards, Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 259kmi (Sportline) > -- >From: Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! > &

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-26 Thread redghost
Alex, you have to turn everything off for the 616 to make any speed. Gump has not power robbing accessories, so she is a little speed demon. I think her 0-60 is in the 25 second range. On Sunday, September 25, 2005, at 11:09 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: Yes, I know, old news to most of you

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread Tom Hargrave
Glad you came out alive Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:09 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread David Brodbeck
Ed Booher wrote: > Reminds me of an article I read in the Indy Star a couple of years ago > when the first of the new Beetle Convertibles came out. I don't > remember it verbatim, but the general idea was this: > > When you press the pedal to the floor, in true German efficiency, the > engine file

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread LT Don
Driving an auto 240D takes a certain mindset ... and a great deal of patience for town driving. However, they are great road trip cars. I love mine. It saw 85 mph with no complaint coming back from the last OkieQ. If I want to accelerate, I climb onto my motorcycle. If I want to just cruise along,

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread John M McIntosh
I once had the misfortune of having to rent a geo metro for a week in Silicon Valley. Beyond the fact that the 3 cyl engine was pitiful, mind in rush hour bumper to bumper 20 mph traffic this was ok, but the fact it had no power steering meant that my arms arched after getting back to my

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread Curt Raymond
Sep 2005 03:44:57 + From: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Driving an auto 240D takes a certain mindset ... and

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread LT Don
There is a word for your new method of driving -- maturity (sometimes called "getting older"). On 9/27/05, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The mindset of most of the driving public baffles me. I've been commuting > with my 240D manual for 2 1/2 years now 80 miles a day largely highwa

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The mindset of most of the driving public baffles me. I've been commuting with > my 240D manual for 2 1/2 years now 80 miles a day largely highway. Lately in > an effort to save fuel I've been cruising at around 65mph and trying to ease > up to that speed. Whats really c

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread Bob Rentfro
Mac waxed poetic and typed: "I see it as part of a larger problem, not really related to driving per se. Our society is largely unhappy, and getting worse by the day." For a moment there I thought Dr. Seuss was posting something... Bob Rentfro '77 300D 140K Litchfield Park, AZ

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread Curt Raymond
T Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 There is a word for your new method of driving -- maturity (sometimes

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread Curt Raymond
g. *sigh* -Curt Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 11:43:18 -0400 From: Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII&q

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mac waxed poetic and typed: > > "I see it as part of a larger problem, not really related to driving per se. > Our society is largely unhappy, and getting worse by the day." > > For a moment there I thought Dr. Seuss was posting something... Green eggs and ham, my inb

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread Gabriel S.
hey curt, do you drive slow in the fast lane? Maybe that's whats pissing people off...i know it gets under my skin On 9/27/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is a word for your new method of driving -- maturity (sometimes > called > "getting older"). > > On 9/27/05, Curt Raymond <[EMA

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread Bob Rentfro
Mac typed: "Green eggs and ham, my inbox is full of dull Mercedes spam!" My apoligies ahead of time to the good Dr I will drive no other car I like my old diesel best by far Everytime before I go I must make sure the plugs will glow Living here in hot AZ The glowing time is short for m

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread Gabriel S.
BRAVO! BRAVO! On 9/27/05, Bob Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mac typed: > > "Green eggs and ham, my inbox is full of dull Mercedes spam!" > > My apoligies ahead of time to the good Dr > > I will drive no other car > I like my old diesel best by far > > Everytime before I go > I mus

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread Curt Raymond
and gain so little... -Curt Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:34:43 -0700 From: "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! To: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread John Ervine
Curt Raymond wrote: I get the most honks where RT 2 and 495 meet in Littleton, MA. Ah. See, there's your problem. Massachusetts has the worst drivers this side of Lebanon. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi 1980 300TD 170+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-27 Thread David Brodbeck
Curt Raymond wrote: I'm in the right lane, pedal to the floor speeding up as fast as I can. The next 2 lanes over are generally busy so whomever was behind me is staying behind me to the top of the hill which is only about 1/4 - 1/2 mile. So at least once a week I'll get some jackass who absol

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-28 Thread LT Don
I need one of those ... what is the HP on a W123 240D? I might custom-order one. On 9/27/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Curt Raymond wrote: > > >I'm in the right lane, pedal to the floor speeding up as fast as I can. > The next 2 lanes over are generally busy so whomever was beh

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-28 Thread Marshall Booth
LT Don wrote: I need one of those ... what is the HP on a W123 240D? I might custom-order one. In 1977 it is 62 hp and 67 hp in 1980!! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 1

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow!

2005-09-28 Thread andrew strasfogel
I have no idea what a Parker Wagon is. Please elaborate or explain to us city folk. On 9/27/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > LT Don wrote: > > I need one of those ... what is the HP on a W123 240D? I might > custom-order > > one. > > In 1977 it is 62 hp and 67 hp in 1980!! > > Mar

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! - Au Contraire!

2005-09-27 Thread B Dike
gt; > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:09 AM > To: Mercedes mailing list > Subject: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! > > Yes, I know, old news to most of yo

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! - Au Contraire!

2005-09-27 Thread B Dike
riginal Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:09 AM > > To: Mercedes mailing list > > Subject: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! > > > > Yes, I kn

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! - Au Contraire!

2005-09-27 Thread G.E.
> > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:09 AM > > To: Mercedes mailing list > > Subject: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! >

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! - Au Contraire!

2005-09-27 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that B wrote: > TYPO - The W123 feels heavier than the W115, not vice > versa. Acording to my data book (Mercedes-Benz Diesel Automobiles by Robert Nitske) * W115W123 axle ratio 3.693.69 weight, USA 3205 lb 3210 lb ('77)

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! - Au Contraire!

2005-09-27 Thread Marshall Booth
G.E. wrote: the rear end has a higher gear ratio on the 115 than it does on the 123... thats probably a good part of it The 115 240D had a 3.69 rear and the 123 240D had a 3.69 rear!! The 115 220D had a 3.92 or 4.08 Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questi

Re: [MBZ] Auto tranny 240Ds are slow! - Au Contraire!

2005-09-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I too have noticed over the years that 123 240D's feel MUCH slower than 115 versions. Talking about autos, not sticks. Same probably applies though. B Dike wrote: Gentlemen, An auto 240D is not necessarily slow. Our 75 (W115) isn't head-snapping fast, but is easily quick enough to maneuve