Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Curt Raymond
They haven't been out long here so long term its hard to say. Supposed to be very fun cars to drive and quite easy on fuel. If I had that kind of money burning a hole in my pocket I'd probably pick one up. -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:38:23 -0500 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Allan Streib
Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? Head gasket was a trouble spot on those. Allan Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: They haven't been out long here so long term its hard to say. Supposed to be very fun

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)? 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL. Decades apart, in other words. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread E M
They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now. As you say, The problem diesels are now decades behind them. If there were such problems, I'm sure it would be well reported. Hard to keep such problems quiet with things like YouTube and the internet now. If the car isn't took old, I think BMW

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Hans Neureiter
BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels. Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors. Actually, Peugot produced the first commercialy sold diesel passenger car, ahead of Daimler Benz. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: They sell a lot

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread E M
The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they? I was always fond of the styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the years. Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no longer are. I really like some of their current offerings too. If they ever

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Allan Streib
I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car. The old joke: Heaven Is Where: The French are the chefs The Italians are the lovers The British are the police The Germans are the mechanics And the Swiss make everything run on time Hell is Where: The British are

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Hans Neureiter
Boxy, maybe, but they had that strangely slopng rear end. One had to get used to it. Last one I had was a '82. Traded it in for a used 123 in '86 + a ton of cash. Resale value of these cars was zip. When it comes to Ero's, here is my take: Brits - non exist, barely Germans - Over priced and over

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
That's pretty funny except, the French were actually responsible for Bugatti and the Citroen DS- a legend. Andrew and I have a good French friend in DC and he is one hell of a good shadetree mechanic! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
Notre ami Gael can build a Mercedes from elemental carbon, hydrogen, and iron. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: That's pretty funny except, the French were actually responsible for Bugatti and the Citroen DS- a legend. Andrew and I have a good

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Hans Neureiter
Imagination is one thing. Experience is another. The French can't cook. The Italians do. The Swiss can count money, so do the Germans And the Brits built some of the best looking cars in the past, non of them fit to go past towing distance from the garage. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM,

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Hans Neureiter
Who's that guy? (Notre ami Gael ) If I had to build a car (or refrigorator, washmachine, etc.), that's what I'd use. On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 8:20 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Notre ami Gael can build a Mercedes from elemental carbon, hydrogen, and iron. -- Hans

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread E M
lol, I'll have to copy and save that one! :-) Don't know about the cars though, there are a few I'd love to own. One of my neighbours bought an old DS a few years back, and drives it in the summer. I would love to have that car!!! So advanced for it's time, and is still super cool today. For

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread E M
The Bugattis were cool cars, but not so sure they were any wonders of engineering. Not until the Germans from VW came along anyway. Still, they had some cool ideas, and they were pretty committed to the idea of building light cars, like the type 35, when Bentley were building cars there were

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
He's one badass mofo that can fix or make or build or modify anything Mercedes! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012, at 9:29 PM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: Who's that guy? (Notre ami Gael ) If I had to build a car (or refrigorator, washmachine, etc.), that's what I'd use. On

Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread Hans Neureiter
Matra/Simca put a turbo on a 4 cyl F1 about 1965. Rules stipulated that a CAI motor can only be half of the displacement of a NA motor. And they won. My dad hd a '30's? Citroen C 4. What a car! Than he bought a ID 19 (60?, hydraulic suspension, 1-spoke sterring wheel, luminescent roof, what

[MBZ] BMW diesels (was: My new car!)

2011-07-20 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: There've been lots of ads... Not around here. Though I've canceled all but basic cable TV so I only see local advertising for the most part. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts