Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-29 Thread Hendrik Riessen
And the passenger side and the boot (or trunk as you say), basically there are two types of actuators, master and slave. Three of each. - Original Message - From: "LWB250" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:49 PM

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-29 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 6/29/2007 7:19:54 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For the most part, the pumps are pretty robust, although I did have one fail on me. Troubleshooting on these systems is nearly the same as the 123 and earlier chassis', however, in this case you

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-29 Thread Dan Steadman
Not sure what type actuator you are talking about, but it sounds like the old type. Check eBay item 290134199414. Regards, Dan Steadman 1980 300D 1980 300TD Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Conten

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-29 Thread LWB250
In the cars with vacuum/pressure pumps (W126, W124, etc.) the function of pump and actuators is a little different. The pump, which is located under the right rear seat in the 124, and under the spare tire in the 126, is operated by an electrical switch on the driver's door lock. When you lock or

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-29 Thread Allan Streib
"Gary Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Actually, one of our Aussie brethren discovered a latex condom placed > over the old diaphram provided enough of a seal to repair many a > vacuum pod. Never tried it myself... I could see that working for a short time, but thin latex is not the most d

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-29 Thread Gary Thompson
Actually, one of our Aussie brethren discovered a latex condom placed over the old diaphram provided enough of a seal to repair many a vacuum pod. Never tried it myself... Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 6/28/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess using an old raincoat and shoe goo pr

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Hendrik Riessen
But that is only for GM and Fard vehicles, don't be tight, go and spend a few hundred on the MB version:-) - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 11:41 AM Subject:

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote: > I use a Snap-On tool that resembles a forked screwdriver with a bent shaft. Found the catalog page. No idea which one fits best, but any of them should be better than a screwdriver. http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools.asp?tool=all&Group_ID=1793 __

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Hendrik Riessen wrote: > > My preferred method is a large screwdriver with the blade against the clip, > if done right you won't need to buy new clips. I use a Snap-On tool that resembles a forked screwdriver with a bent shaft. Couldn't find it in the online catalog, but this may be better: htt

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> OK, if I don't pry against the panel, what do I pry against?? If you've ever seen one of the plastic pop-connectors you'll see what you pry against. It's the shoulder of the connector itself. Think 'nail head'. You pry out against the shank of the connector, not the other way. -- Jim __

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> I guess using an old raincoat and shoe goo probably won't do the job? Shoe Goo, though slightly flexible, is too rigid for this application. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used part

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> Usually if a diaphram is torn then it won't hold any sort of vaccum > due to > the size of the leak. That is contrary to my experience. Initially the tears are small, and can close up spontaneously depending on their mood. But things get progressively worse rather quickly. -- Jim _

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> I am pretty sure the 124's use a dedicated pump to supply vaccum AND > pressure for closing/opening (thus only needing one line), as such are > very > different to the 123's. I know my 201 has a pump under the rear seat. > I am not sure what the 126's use but it may well be that they changed >

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Hendrik Riessen
anged half way through it's life span. - Original Message - From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing > Thanks Dan! Excellent description of how it

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Hendrik Riessen
iscussion List" Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 4:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing > "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> I don't believe the diaphrams are available seperately - have always >> replace the assy - > > I guess

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Hendrik Riessen
My preferred method is a large screwdriver with the blade against the clip, if done right you won't need to buy new clips. - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 2:01 AM S

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Usually if a diaphram is torn then it won't hold any sort of vaccum due to the size of the leak. - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 1:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central l

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Hendrik Riessen
. - Original Message - From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:47 PM Subject: [MBZ] Central locks failing > OK, all of a sudden the central locking on my 300D is not working > correctly. I know only enough to know this must mean a v

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Kevin Kraly
Yes, Dan. The locks on my '83 300SD have been inoperative since I've owned the car. The pump goes until it times out (30 seconds IIRC), but nothing happens other than the fuel door locking (found this out when attempting to fuel up and had to open it manually). Luckily enough, I did it quickly

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread LarryT
.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: "LWB250" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Centra

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread LarryT
rbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing > "LarryT" &l

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread R A Bennell
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 2:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing You don't need to tear the doors open unless you find a bad actuator in one. The vacuum locking system only appears to be magic; it's really

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread LWB250
> Randy > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Jim Cathey > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:32 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing > > > > I have a Mity-Vac

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Allan Streib
"LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't believe the diaphrams are available seperately - have always > replace the assy - I guess using an old raincoat and shoe goo probably won't do the job? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread LarryT
http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test http://members.rennlist.com/roadtest/ . - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing > So, ar

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread LarryT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:32 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing > > >> I am sort of hoping that I do not need to tear the doors open. > > You

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread R A Bennell
2007 11:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing > I am sort of hoping that I do not need to tear the doors open. You can dream! > experience with removing door panels on cars has shown me that > it is usually difficult to do without causing some sort

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread R A Bennell
Cathey Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 11:30 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing > me to believe that the rubbery connectors are failing. The _usual_ failure is torn diaphragms rather than failed rubber connectors, but both are possible. --

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> I am sort of hoping that I do not need to tear the doors open. You can dream! > experience with removing door panels on cars has shown me that > it is usually difficult to do without causing some sort of damage Not too bad, if you do it right. A putty knife slipped behind the plastic pop conn

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> me to believe that the rubbery connectors are failing. The _usual_ failure is torn diaphragms rather than failed rubber connectors, but both are possible. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread R A Bennell
much prying. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 10:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing > I have a Mity-Vac somewhere at home -- where do I start checking?

Re: [MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Jim Cathey
> I have a Mity-Vac somewhere at home -- where do I start checking? In the trunk. Lines are accessible at the fuel flap lock. Test it, and the trunk actuator. (The latter is what I have found is the most likely to break first.) Under the carpets are plastic channels with the vacuum system tees

[MBZ] Central locks failing

2007-06-28 Thread Allan Streib
OK, all of a sudden the central locking on my 300D is not working correctly. I know only enough to know this must mean a vacuum leak somewhere. Engine shuts off fine, and all doors lock if I lock the car right away after stopping. Unlocking is another story, if even 10 minutes pass the doors do