Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-22 Thread BenzBarn
Gee. Thanks for pointing that out. I thread was about chain crimp tools. I said that I have a few tools in my tool box that I rarely use including the base setting tool for hydraulic lifters. No need to point out to me where it's used or that it's not used on Diesels. Someone asked what the

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-22 Thread LT Don
BenzBarn, You are a pretty new face around here, I think. And you are obviously very experienced in working on the Benz. ... But what you do NOT yet know is that one does not try to kick Obi in the nuts and walk away unscathed. Don On 8/21/05, BenzBarn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gee.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-22 Thread John Ervine
BenzBarn wrote: I'm laughing over here SEE? My offer still stands - how much for postage? -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Benzbarn is not a new face, Dan has been around for quite a while. LT Don wrote: BenzBarn, You are a pretty new face around here, I think. And you are obviously very experienced in working on the Benz. ... But what you do NOT yet know is that one does not try to kick Obi in the nuts and

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Benzbarn is not a new face, Dan has been around for quite a while. I'm thinking that Looie Don came along after I did (been here since March or April of '02) and Benzbarn may have been here longer than I.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-22 Thread LT Don
I am getting a bit old and senile. I will pop on over for supper with Truman and check in when I get back. On 8/21/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Benzbarn is not a new face, Dan has been around for quite a while. I'm thinking that Looie Don came

[MBZ] Chain crimp tool and books

2005-08-22 Thread Wilton Strickland
Wife is doing/arranging her books by color and size right now. Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-22 Thread BenzBarn
I'm not new round here. I've been on the lists for over 5 years. Obi and I have been here before and he knows I'm not a toe sucker.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-22 Thread BenzBarn
John? How much will you give me for this tool? It's not going to be free because I paid about 300 bucks for it.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-22 Thread John Ervine
BenzBarn wrote: John? How much will you give me for this tool? It's not going to be free because I paid about 300 bucks for it. You said the tools were unneeded, so I offered to pay shipping to take them off your hands, remember? Can't have a toolbox cluttered up with unnecessary tools

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-22 Thread LT Don
Toe sucker? On 8/21/05, BenzBarn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not new round here. I've been on the lists for over 5 years. Obi and I have been here before and he knows I'm not a toe sucker. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-22 Thread BenzBarn
Hehehe I'm actually a pretty nice guy in real life and more than generous. Just not that generous. I have some old drill bits you can have though..

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-22 Thread BenzBarn
Toe sucker? ( must be a Canadian thing ) You know, Ass kisser? Minion? Lap dog? Ankle grabber? Butt boy? Wimp? Puffta ? Knob? Take you're pick. but it ain't me. I was once nice enough to say I was sorry to him on list to which I got no acknowledgment in return either

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-21 Thread Marshall Booth
BenzBarn wrote: This tool is for setting the base measurement on hydraulic lifters. Can't be done without one. There's a small pin that rests on top of the lifter along with the tool and a small red line is on the pin. If it shows red when you place it right you need a thicker or thinner lash

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-21 Thread BenzBarn
It's used for V8 style engines. Everything from 1976 and on. 450, 380, 500, 6.9 and 560 that I've seen. I know some newer diesels have hydraulic lifters but all the ones I've worked on are mechanical. However, I was talking about MB tools in general; how expensive they can be and how little

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-21 Thread Marshall Booth
Uncivil Dan wrote: Why would a diesel expert make such an assumption about hydraulic lifter base setting tools and I thought you don't answer unsigned posts? lol When you wrote: This tool is for setting the base measurement on hydraulic lifters. Can't be done without one. you intimated

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-21 Thread Joe Knight
And I thought this thread had something to do with the chain crimping tool. Silly me!

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-21 Thread Marshall Booth
Joe Knight wrote: And I thought this thread had something to do with the chain crimping tool. Silly me! I must agree, but I don't know of any way to efficaciously answer or comment on a particular post without retaining the original subject. I notice that your post about not changing

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-21 Thread BenzBarn
Well, for christs sake I KNOW what the tool is used for and where it's used, so in fact I'm not incorrect. Know one asked you to be the unofficial saviour of benz kind. You have a lot of nerve to call be uncivilized. For a PhD, you have much to learn

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-21 Thread Jan Guthrie
I did mine by color ..?? Does that count? grin Jan OK Don wrote: Yes! - That's how my home library is organized, and I can testify to the accuracy of Marshall's statement! In addition to the frustration of trying to follow an active discussion thread in the absence of relevant subject

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-21 Thread Royce Engler
Marshall said... Sort of like shelving books in a library randomly or by size! My ex once arranged the books on MY bookshelf so that the colors were coordinated. Took me weeks to figure out where everything was...I know, I know...I AM a book junkie... Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-21 Thread John Ervine
BenzBarn wrote: Well, for christs sake I KNOW what the tool is used for and where it's used, so in fact I'm not incorrect. Know one asked you to be the unofficial saviour of benz kind. You have a lot of nerve to call be uncivilized. For a PhD, you have much to learn Yet you were talking

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
if he made a copy of it, why cant he just have this wonderful machine shop make a bunch of copies of it. I bet the price would go down on a bulk type of production. Darrell W. Sigmon wrote: Mr Hattaway, don't you remember telling me a long time ago that I had first 'dibs' on that tool

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-20 Thread OK Don
Another proud member of the silent majority -- -- hammering away on those links. You guys might be surprised at just how many people do this but don't say that they do. No doubt some are unaware of the tool but 500 bucks is too much for it anyway. All you're really doing is riveting some

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-20 Thread BenzBarn
Yup. And proud of it too.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-20 Thread BenzBarn
This tool is for setting the base measurement on hydraulic lifters. Can't be done without one. There's a small pin that rests on top of the lifter along with the tool and a small red line is on the pin. If it shows red when you place it right you need a thicker or thinner lash pad under the

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool The question is, Rusty, how much do you rent yours for? -Original Message- From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 18, 2005 10:52 AM To: 'Mercedes mailing list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool How

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I use a hammer for crimping the chain, works just fine. Kevin wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 04:35:47PM -0400, BenzBarn wrote: I give you a hammer for free. Cheaper than any tool from MB and very dependable. Right, but about the only thing you can use it on properly without breaking

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Joe Knight
I got in well ahead of you Kleb, offlist. Why don't you just keep practicing your hammer technique. joe On 8/18/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually asked about it first so I have first dibs on it.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
BT, WRONG Joe Knight wrote: I got in well ahead of you Kleb, offlist. Why don't you just keep practicing your hammer technique. joe On 8/18/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I actually asked about it first so I have first dibs on it.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread John Ervine
BenzBarn wrote: It's never failed for me. I'm not buying a special tool for a one time job if I can make my own or improvise. I already have the hydraulic valve adjustment tool that I thought I so despritatley needed. Sits in the back of the tool box with a bunch of other '' needed '' tools.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Joe Knight
Well BT, WRONG to you too! I believe I can document my contention should the need arise. Of course Richard can sell the tool to whomever he damn well pleases if he hasn't already done so. On 8/18/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BT, WRONG Joe Knight wrote: I got

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
hydraulic valve adjusting tool? Why would you need to adjust hydraulic valves? John Ervine wrote: BenzBarn wrote: It's never failed for me. I'm not buying a special tool for a one time job if I can make my own or improvise. I already have the hydraulic valve adjustment tool that I thought

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well I have never heard anything back about it anyways, so there is no telling what the deal is. Joe Knight wrote: Well BT, WRONG to you too! I believe I can document my contention should the need arise. Of course Richard can sell the tool to whomever he damn well pleases if he hasn't

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:02:42PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: BT, WRONG Don't you have a 560 you need to be fixing, Kaleb? :) K

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes, I do. And I think the timing chain I got for it has a clip anyways. Kevin wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:02:42PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: BT, WRONG Don't you have a 560 you need to be fixing, Kaleb? :) K ___ For used parts email

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Joe Knight
Yep. Richard's been uncharacteristically silent since he offered that thing up. joe On 8/18/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I have never heard anything back about it anyways, so there is no telling what the deal is.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Joe Knight
Maybe he's pullin' our collective chain. ;) joe On 8/18/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I have never heard anything back about it anyways, so there is no telling what the deal is.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yes, thats it. Joe Knight wrote: Maybe he's pullin' our collective chain. ;) joe On 8/18/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I have never heard anything back about it anyways, so there is no telling what the deal is. ___ For used

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hey Guys.. Maybe it's been an experiment to see how nice you all play.. How about it, Richard? Take care, Chuck On Aug 18, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Joe Knight wrote: Yep. Richard's been uncharacteristically silent since he offered that thing up. joe

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Richard Hattaway
Well, for what it's worth on a timeline, Camma is way ahead of all u'uns. But here's the deal. I agree with Dan, sorta. I actually like using the tool, and have access to a whizzzbang machine shop, so I just copied it. ( I have cad drawings that I will share if there is someone who is

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread BenzBarn
Hey, I'm farm boy and you learn to make do. I used to rivet sections into a mower knife all the time and this isn't that much different. There's noting to it if you know what you're doing. Lay the chain in place, slide the master link in, put the centre piece in and use vice grips and a small

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread BenzBarn
Oh, I use them. Just not as important as I thought they would be. My distributor tester? I USE that and it pays to have it around. Mighty vac? Great tool anyone can use or should have. Set of end wrenches? A necessity. Master link crimper? The jury is still out on that one...

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Rusty Cullens
I know a parts supplier that would love to rent it. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Hattaway Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:53 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool Well, for what it's worth

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Darrell W. Sigmon
Mr Hattaway, don't you remember telling me a long time ago that I had first 'dibs' on that tool Darrell ~ Richard Hattaway wrote: Well, for what it's worth on a timeline, Camma is way ahead of all u'uns. But here's the deal. I agree with Dan, sorta.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Richard Hattaway
Darrell, You can use the new one any time you need it. Free. Under certain situations I would even deliver it to you and help you use it. I'm just that kind of guy (c: . Richard Always respecting his elders.. --- Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr Hattaway, don't you

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread Darrell W. Sigmon
I never had any doubt about your character !!! THANX Darrell Richard Hattaway wrote: Darrell, You can use the new one any time you need it. Free. Under certain situations I would even deliver it to you and help you use it. I'm just that kind of guy (c: . Richard Always respecting

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-19 Thread R A Bennell
: Thursday, August 18, 2005 5:53 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool Well, for what it's worth on a timeline, Camma is way ahead of all u'uns. But here's the deal. I agree with Dan, sorta. I actually like using the tool, and have access to a whizzzbang machine shop

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-18 Thread Rusty Cullens
How much? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Hattaway Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 3:26 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool And I have the real tool I will also sell very reasonably!! Richard

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-18 Thread Luther Gulseth
The question is, Rusty, how much do you rent yours for? -Original Message- From: Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 18, 2005 10:52 AM To: 'Mercedes mailing list' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool How much? Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-18 Thread Rusty Cullens
If Richard sells me his I will rent it for 10% of the sale price. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 1:55 PM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool The question is, Rusty

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-18 Thread BenzBarn
I give you a hammer for free. Cheaper than any tool from MB and very dependable.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-18 Thread Kevin
On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 04:35:47PM -0400, BenzBarn wrote: I give you a hammer for free. Cheaper than any tool from MB and very dependable. Right, but about the only thing you can use it on properly without breaking anything is a ford. This is why the big hammer in my tool box is called the

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-18 Thread BenzBarn
It's never failed for me. I'm not buying a special tool for a one time job if I can make my own or improvise. I already have the hydraulic valve adjustment tool that I thought I so despritatley needed. Sits in the back of the tool box with a bunch of other '' needed '' tools.

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-17 Thread Dave M.
What you see on eBay at that link is a cheap copy tool, not the genuine Mercedes tool (which is made by Iwis, btw, the chain manufacturer). The cheap eBay tool will not press on the middle plate for the new OE style master links, the genuine tool (with appropriate jaws) will. (The aftermarket

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-17 Thread Richard Hattaway
And I have the real tool I will also sell very reasonably!! Richard Salisbury NC --- Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you see on eBay at that link is a cheap copy tool, not the genuine Mercedes tool (which is made by Iwis, btw, the chain manufacturer). The cheap eBay tool will not press

Re: [MBZ] Chain crimp tool

2005-08-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
email me offlist with the info. Richard Hattaway wrote: And I have the real tool I will also sell very reasonably!! Richard Salisbury NC --- Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you see on eBay at that link is a cheap copy tool, not the genuine Mercedes tool (which is made by Iwis, btw,