I used a small bolt cutter, which was just the right size to slip in behind
the window glass and clamp down on the shaft. The jaws opened just wide
enough, and I was able to exert sufficient force with the leverage of the
wide open handles to snap the shaft. But it was a b*tch to get the door
han
There is a right angle adapter for the Dremel, that comes in handy when the
plane of the disk is 90 degrees off --- less expensive than the flex-cable,
and the disk is still at a right angle to that flex handle ---
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> The problem I had with a dr
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You ogbt to be able to get in there with a dremel or similar... Or a
hacksaw blade. The stem is some kind of white
y CAN take it off without turning the key. If you remove
both (all 3 I mean) screws you can rotate the whole door handle. BTDT.
-Curt
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 22:47:28 -0400
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Today I installed a new door handle, which required cutting off the stem on
the old one
So I finally changed the one faulty air cell on my 83 300TD at an MB Club
tech session. Sure enough, I got sprayed with SLS fluid when i cracked the
line, because the air cell was saturated with the stuff due to an internal
membrane (?) failure. The R/R is so simple it isn't covered in the servi
Curt Raymond writes:
> I'd seriously considered buying the house across the street from us so
> I could tear it down and burn it in our woodstove last winter... They
> were selling so cheap and it was in such poor condition I figured the
> lot would be worth more if I tore the house down and put
arage.
Fortunately a couple bought it and has done a very nice job rehabing...
-Curt
Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 08:33:04 -0700
From: Alex Chamberlain
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OK Don wrote:
Yes, I do remember the first Earth Day, and am still using the legal
pad length clipboard that I stuck the original Earth Day sticker on in
1970 -
Really? I thought it would have been called Ecology Day back then.
Mitch.
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Yes, I do remember the first Earth Day, and am still using the legal
pad length clipboard that I stuck the original Earth Day sticker on in
1970 -
On 4/23/10, Rich Thomas wrote:
> Not really, we are ultimate recyclers, keeping our old Benzes on the road.
>
(anyone else remember the first Ear
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> Not really, we are ultimate recyclers, keeping our old Benzes on the road.
>
> Hear, hear!
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To
Not really, we are ultimate recyclers, keeping our old Benzes on the road.
Which is timely, as I just got back from a quick run to the bank in
Bruunnhilde the 79 TD (who looks a bit rough, but runs just fine. I
pulled in the parking lot, right behind a new Pious (no stickers yet,
but he proba
>From air cells/accumulators to Hardiplank in19 easy steps!
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Alex Chamberlain
wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>
> > here, the Habitat for Humanity and some other group will actually come
> tear
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> here, the Habitat for Humanity and some other group will actually come tear
> down buildings to salvage materials. Sort of a win-win-win all around for
> the donater, the HfH, and the ultimate beneficiar
Donate it to a homeless group who can move it away somewhere. One hopes
there might be more demand in DC come November!
I half jest -- here, the Habitat for Humanity and some other group will
actually come tear down buildings to salvage materials. Sort of a
win-win-win all around for the don
Mitch, you're quite welcome to purchase and haul away my garage so I can
build a new one with adequate clearance. :)
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
> Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
>
> Andrew, when you raise your house to install that two-pole lift,
Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
Andrew, when you raise your house to install that two-pole lift, I'll
bet you can get your time down to 20 minutes or less!
I think Andy and Donna have an unattached garage, making it quite feasible to
brace the garage, cut it off the fo
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> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> I am not yet convinced without further inspection that faulty
> sphere()s is(are) the root cause of my jarring (as opposed to
> bouncy) ride.
A j
cedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
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> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:15 PM
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>
> Alex Chamberlain wrote:
&
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> I am not yet convinced without further inspection that faulty
> sphere()s is(are) the root cause of my jarring (as opposed to
> bouncy) ride.
A jarring ride is the definition of failed accumulators.
My experience is: the highway expansion joints are not
especially no
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Alex Chamberlain wrote:
> In Europe, where Citroens are
> common and use a virtually identical system for their suspension,
> there seems to be a thriving industry in recharging the spheres.
I exchan
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:
> Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>
>> In Europe, where Citroens are
>> common and use a virtually identical system for their suspension, there
>> seems to be a thriving industry in recharging the spheres.
>>
>
> I exchanged a few emails with a fellow
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
In Europe, where Citroens are
common and use a virtually identical system for their suspension, there
seems to be a thriving industry in recharging the spheres.
I exchanged a few emails with a fellow who recharges the Citroen units.
He said the MBZ spheres were not serv
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM, dave walton wrote:
> The quick test once you have them out is to insert a blunt rod into
> the opening and see how far it goes until it hits bottom. The new ones
> went about half way and the old ones (bad) bottomed out.
And unless you can test used ones with th
gt;> you for having an old car that always needs fixing does that balance the
>> price differential?
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:49:02 -0400
>> From: andrew strasfogel
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
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2010 22:49:02 -0400
> From: andrew strasfogel
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
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> What's wrong with replacing the
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I think in the end it boils down to value for money... How cheap are the
used spheres?
Remember these are a wear item, like windshield wipers (well maybe not that
bad).
New spheres are $127 apiece from Rusty. So for $250 you'
needs fixing does that balance the price differential?
-Curt
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:49:02 -0400
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Are you that broke?
A new pair of spheres costs what? $120? How much do a new set of
struts cost because you were too cheap to buy 2 spheres and ruin your
struts? Last time I had to do that because I bought a fleabay car
with a "bad transmission" and in reality some bozo had ruined the
stru
, April 21, 2010 17:20
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Andrew,
Replace BOTH of the spheres at once! You were told this the last time, and you
ignored it. There is a reason that you need to replace
BOTH AT THE SAME TIME
About the only way to (indirectly) measure it would be to make a tool/
jig that would pressurize a known quantity of fluid into them (maybe
half of their computed volume) and to measure the pressure at that
point...
Or just buy known sealed new ones...
--
John W Reames
jwrea...@comcast.net
Of course, I would have to know how to determine their
condition by a mere inspection... Any clues?
Same way you determine the condition of a hydraulic hood/hatch
strut---by mere inspection and without testing it out in any
functional way.
In other words, you can't.
-- Jim
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> What's wrong with replacing them with a pair of good used
> spheres? Since they are so easy to install, I could take the
> risk.
>
> Of course, I would have to know how to determine their
> condition by a mere inspection... Any clues?
Quantity of nitrogen in them a
> Curt Raymond wrote:
> The spheres are the shock absorbers aren't they? When the
> spheres fail the rear end of the car bounces like a pogo
> stick...
No. The accumulators are _springs_. Hydraulic fluid does not
compress well, so to allow a hydraulic cylinder to change the
ride height there is
What's wrong with replacing them with a pair of good used spheres? Since
they are so easy to install, I could take the risk.
Of course, I would have to know how to determine their condition by a mere
inspection... Any clues?
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:02 PM, Jim Cathey wrote:
> The spheres ar
The spheres are the shock absorbers aren't they? When the spheres fail
the rear end of the car bounces like a pogo stick...
The spheres are the adjustable auxiliary springs, and to a lesser
degree,
heat dissipation devices to dump the energy being converted to heat
in the orifices and piping.
res fail the
> rear end of the car bounces like a pogo stick...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:48:12 -0400
> From: dave walton
> To:
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> Re: [MBZ] Changing 300TD air cells (accumulator spheres) -
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> anyone
The spheres are the shock absorbers aren't they? When the spheres fail the rear
end of the car bounces like a pogo stick...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:48:12 -0400
From: dave walton
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Re: [MBZ] Changing 300TD air cells (accumulator sp
Help me reason this through: In the case of shock absorbers - where a
failure usually manifests as a lack of resistance, the remaining good
unit takes an increased beating. So wouldn't the failure of a sphere -
which causes increased resistance to movement, take some of the stress
off the remaining
Andrew,
Replace BOTH of the spheres at once! You were told this the last
time, and you ignored it. There is a reason that you need to replace
BOTH AT THE SAME TIME! You just found the reason. The one new one
is abused because the other is weak, then they both fail. Now you
need to repl
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Fmiser wrote:
> I don't add fluid very often
> - but it is not a "sealed" system!
>
>
A good point. Among other things, the SLS system (and the four-wheel
hydraulic systems in the 6.9 and certain W126s) is self-burping (unlike,
say, the cooling system)---which
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> Wow - this may explain my lack of fluid in the SLS reservoir.
> Thanks for sharing!
If you have low fluid, you may also have a leak. I think both of
mine leaked a bit from the leveler valve. The one I rebuilt
because it was leaking a _lot_. Also the pump and all th
Wow - this may explain my lack of fluid in the SLS reservoir. Thanks for
sharing!
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:07 PM, dave walton wrote:
> I've only worked on one vehicle with the spheres. Both were bad. The
> material separating the pressure bulb from the fluid had disintegrated
> on both sides.
I've only worked on one vehicle with the spheres. Both were bad. The
material separating the pressure bulb from the fluid had disintegrated
on both sides. This caused the area normally filled with gas to be at
least partially filled with fluid. The level in the reservoir was way
low. The fluid was
> andrew strasfogel wrote:
> I'm fed up with the jarring ride when driving over rough
> pavement in my 1983 300TD. I replaced both air cells
> (accumulator spheres) with one new and one used one a couple
> years ago. I never checked or tested the used one before
> having it installed. My intent
1. Do they run in series or parallel? In other words, will one bad
accumulator ruin the ride as if there were TWO bad ones?
Half as bad. The sides are independent. Go over a single-side
bump, alternately, to see if it's worse on one side.
-- Jim
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It will take longer to jack up the car or run it up on ramps and deal
with that aspect than to change them. Basic wrenches. I don't recall
any fluid leaking out when I did mine some years ago, but you should
always have a bottle of it around anyway for when you might need to top
things off.
I'm fed up with the jarring ride when driving over rough pavement in my 1983
300TD. I replaced both air cells (accumulator spheres) with one new and one
used one a couple years ago. I never checked or tested the used one before
having it installed.
My intent is to R/R solely the used one.
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