Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
My first VW was a '98 Jetta (A3) and is one of my favorite cars ever. A bit rattly and unrefined but really fun to drive. With the TDI engine it made around 50mpg pretty much the whole time I owned it.The majority of the problems I had with the car were rust and age related. It finally got to t

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-20 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I wonder if theres a big difference between diesel and gas engines too. The ones I've driven were all gasser rentals... -Curt On Saturday, September 19, 2020, 2:36:56 PM EDT, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote: There was a HUUUGE difference in the DSG transmission in the 2014 Beetle

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2020-09-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I also have towing on my insurance policy. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 2:39 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > In my experience, batteries are fine, until suddenly they are not. > > They can overnight go from starting fine to not having enough juice to > even turn the engine

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-19 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
In my experience, batteries are fine, until suddenly they are not. They can overnight go from starting fine to not having enough juice to even turn the engine. If your battery is seven years old I'd advise replacing it, or at least carrying a set of jumper cables in your car (few people do these

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-19 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
There was a HUUUGE difference in the DSG transmission in the 2014 Beetle TDI and the nearly identical new 2015. The 2014 was quite jerky starting out like a novice driving a manual, and the 2015 was nearly as smooth as a conventional automatic transmission. The shifts were quick and crisp.

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-19 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I had a Jetta once, a 1991 model year (A2) purchased new (I was young and my dad always bought his cars new, so I just thought that was the right way to do it). I paid between $12K and $13K for it IIRC. 5-speed manual, 1.8l NA 8v engine. This was a non-interference engine which was important given

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-19 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If you still want the best diesel I recommend the 250 GLK BlueTEC which was made from 2013 through 2015. Mine still has the original seven-year-old varta battery which is strong and does not need replacement despite being drained twice in the last month. My most recent fuel economy was nearly 36 mp

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I saw $1.99 Diesel yesterday. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 11:56 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Speaking of low demand I've actually seen diesel prices start to sink. > They sat at $2.59 from basically the beginning of the year. Gas prices fell > $0.30 while diesel hel

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I HATE DSG transmissions. I hate how they sound, I hate how they jerk in a parking lot. I hate the feeling during shifts and they're fragile. Nothing to like about those. The 6spd manual in my Jetta is a fantastic transmission, it shifts smoothly and its geared nicely to live with. Sure its not

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Speaking of low demand I've actually seen diesel prices start to sink. They sat at $2.59 from basically the beginning of the year. Gas prices fell $0.30 while diesel held constant. Recently I've seen diesel as low as $2.39. An annoyingly slow drop but its about time. -Curt On Friday, Septe

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-19 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-09-19 11:40, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: Yes I take your point on test conditions, but I would like to see the language of that law. I doubt the Clean Air Act says diddly about what qualifies as meeting standards, that, as well as the standards themselves, is a regulatory matte

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-19 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Yes I take your point on test conditions, but I would like to see the language of that law. I would argue any time multuple auto manufacturers are found to be in multibillion dollar violation of a law, that either the law is poorly written or the interpretation of that law was changed. Like suddenl

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-19 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Not quite accurate - our Passat TDI was one of the cheating cars and needed BlueTec fluid. The only things I didn't like about that car were the maintenance costs for the dual clutch tranny, the seats were not as comfortable as the W124, and the wind noise was higher than an old W124 at 70mph. On

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-19 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
No, the testing is supposed to be done with exactly the same operational parameters in the computers as real world driving conditions. The fine is for writing software that figured out when the vehicle was being emission tested and using DIFFERENT operational parameters in order to meet the tes

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-19 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Missed opportunity. They don't import any diesels any more that I am aware of. I looked for a diesel suv in 2018 and couldnt find any.at the dealers. Our old 2014 vw touareg diesel is still chugging merrily around the black hills with my sister at the wheel. Pushes 40mpg on the highway. 400 ft lbs

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-18 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Thank you... I could not restrain my sarcastic muscle, which is likely overdeveloped.. ;)) On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 5:57 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 14:56:28 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > O... The humanity !!! > > > > Now, California will have to burn yet an

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-18 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 14:56:28 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > O... The humanity !!! > > Now, California will have to burn yet another 4 million acres of mature > forest to balance the earth's atmosphere... > [Sarcasm intended here folks] Good use of sarcasm, Grant! Thanks! Craig __

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2020-09-18 Thread Clay via Mercedes
We may be heading to the promised land of hydrogen. The current viral unrest has caused a depression in fossil fuel demand, with a decrease in value. With fuel hanging around $40 bbl there is no incentives to sink funding into production, exploration, or delivery. Long term outlook is for con

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2020-09-18 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Nor appreciated. I appreciated it. I wonder how all that 'evil' pollution compares to the emissions from just this one fire season? Much of our politicized responses these days lacks perspective, and reasonableness. This is the most interesting part: >>> The company >>> will pay another $11

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-18 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> We allowed GM, Standard Oil, and Goodyear Rubber to addict us to driving all > time, which I'm coming to intensely dislike. I now rarely drive, as it turns out. I'm liking it. I thought GM's buying up and ending mass transit back in the day was pretty heinous. -- Jim _

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-18 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
The problem with the diesels and NOx is that it's not possible to meet the standard. With ANY diesel engine. Bad standard, as the NOx isn't all that much worse than what's produced by gasoline engines, which also produce quite a bit of particulate pollution. The real solution for clean air is

Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-18 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Nor appreciated. On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 5:57 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > O... The humanity !!! > > Now, California will have to burn yet another 4 million acres of mature > forest to balance the earth's atmosphere... > [Sarcasm intended here folks] > > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 11:50 AM M

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2020-09-18 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
O... The humanity !!! Now, California will have to burn yet another 4 million acres of mature forest to balance the earth's atmosphere... [Sarcasm intended here folks] On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 11:50 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > https://justthenews.com/gove

[MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)

2020-09-18 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/massive-15-billion-proposed-settlement-announced-alleged-vehicle The U.S. Department of Justice, Environmental Protection Agency, and California Air Resources Board on Monday announced a proposed settlement worth around $1.5 billion with auto tit