few times (test drives and onto/off of the tow dolly) without damage.
-Curt
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 11:24:58 -0500
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An a
An acquaintance with a new MB ML went to drive to work one morning but a
turn of the key yielded nothing -- no lights, dings, clicks or
anything. The battery had discharged to 8V or 9V and he learned that
once the battery was less than 10V nothing works. I heard this story
2nd hand so some
Thanks. I seem to remember it being said that early 2000s Mercedes had
serious problems, but late '90s were okay.
Gerry
On 2/6/2014 5:58 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
1996 was the first year MBs had OBDII, mainly because it was mandated by law in
NA.
Dan
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On Feb 6, 2014, at 3:37
On Feb 6, 2014 6:30 PM, "OK Don" wrote:
>
> If you can take the dead batteries out, you'd greatly reduce the weight
and
> improve the economy . . .
They are relatively easy to remove, but they are also very small NiCd
affairs - basically a couple long tubes of D cells, and not very heavy.
They we
On Feb 6, 2014 7:41 PM, "Scott Ritchey" wrote:
>
>
> I'm curious. Does anyone KNOW about Prius batteries? How long do they
> last? How much $$$ to replace? Is replacement DIY-capable or dealer
only?
> Is any of this an issue to actual owners?
Father in law has two Priuses, one is early first
I'm curious. Does anyone KNOW about Prius batteries? How long do they
last? How much $$$ to replace? Is replacement DIY-capable or dealer only?
Is any of this an issue to actual owners?
Scott
--
>
> On 2/6/2014 11:32 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
> > On 05/02/2014 6:06 PM, arc
The first prayer is known as the serenity prayer & was authored by the
theologian Reinhold Niebuhr. It has been used extensively by AA & other 12
step programmes. End of trivial knowledge. .
On Feb 6, 2014 6:17 PM, "Randy Bennell" wrote:
> On 06/02/2014 2:55 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
>
>> Rick wro
If you can take the dead batteries out, you'd greatly reduce the weight and
improve the economy . . .
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 4:49 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com <
arche...@embarqmail.com> wrote:
> I was wondering about the Insight mpg with a dead battery.
> Thanks,
> Gerry
>
>
> On 2/6/2014 11:42 A
On 06/02/2014 2:55 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
Rick wrote:
Hey, stop worrying about what other folks want.
find things to enjoy in your life.
Damn fine advice.
I say it again.
Keeping to self is the totality of the problems in the culture. i.e.
self focus, navel gaze produces selfishness which a
1996 was the first year MBs had OBDII, mainly because it was mandated by law in
NA.
Dan
Sent from my iPad
> On Feb 6, 2014, at 3:37 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com"
> wrote:
>
> This is beginning to sound like a way for DIYers to deal with later model
> Mercedes complexity as well as providing
it and intended to keep it forever. IIRC he'd even
bought a replacement engine/transmission out of a wreck to have as a spare.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 20:58:56 -0500
From: "arche...@embarqmail.com"
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dead list
Message-I
On 2/6/2014 11:32 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
On 05/02/2014 6:06 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
The early 3 cylinder Honda Insights (2000 and later) were interesting
in that they got up to 70 mpg. Has anyone ever owned or driven one?
If I could find one that needed a lot of work; new big bat
On Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:52:19 -0600 Mountain Man
wrote:
> Dan wrote:
> > ...wife and I were considering going rural, and I spoke to their
> > recruiter about a teaching job.
> >
>
> Rural is excellent.
> My kids all loved rural.
Hear, hear!
Craig
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Rick wrote:
> " I guess it comes down to a simple choice, really. Get busy living, or get
> busy dying. "
>
Bury your head in the sand.
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Rick wrote:
> Hey, stop worrying about what other folks want.
>
> find things to enjoy in your life.
>
> Damn fine advice.
I say it again.
Keeping to self is the totality of the problems in the culture. i.e.
self focus, navel gaze produces selfishness which affects driving MB
accidents and then a
Dan wrote:
> ...wife and I were considering going rural, and I spoke to their recruiter
> about a teaching job.
>
Rural is excellent.
My kids all loved rural.
Very few nights, but some nights were sooo dark you could not see your
hand in front of your face. The light on the horizon was CSOC aka
Randy wrote:
> Hey, stop worrying about what other folks want.
> Contemplate your navel and find things to enjoy in your life.
>
What me worry?
Don't you think we have too much ME in this culture? - everyone focus
on navel and then we have poor driving (MB content) and greed, etc.
mao
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It is your friend.
You put up Rick Simpson Oil a long time ago.
Hemp oil is also very good for health.
mao
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Craig wrote:
> ...Punkin Center ... Seibert.. Flagler, Arriba, Genoa, Limon, Agate, Deer
> Trail... Byers, Strasburg, Bennett...
>
Ah - all very familiar names.
mao
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This is beginning to sound like a way for DIYers to deal with later
model Mercedes complexity as well as providing an interesting
challenge. Does anyone know the earliest year MB could be diagnosed
with the OBD11?
Thanks,
Gerry
On 2/6/2014 10:28 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
Exactly.
The protocols
On Feb 6, 2014 11:47 AM, "Curt Raymond" wrote:
>
> Apparently your neighbor didn't research very hard, I searched for
"insight dead battery" and one of the first threads was eco-moder with a
whole bunch of people who have disabled the battery or rebuilt the
battery...
Interesting. Maybe he didn'
ary 6, 2014 11:24 AM> *To: *Mercedes Discussion List> *Reply To: *Mercedes Discussion List> *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] Dead list>> what if it is the whining that he enjoys?>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46GwJbrMghQ&sns=em>> " I guess it comes down to a simple ch
s Discussion List
> *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] Dead list
>
> what if it is the whining that he enjoys?
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46GwJbrMghQ&sns=em
>
> " I guess it comes down to a simple choice, really. Get busy living, or
> get busy dyin
From: Gary HurstSent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 11:24 AMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListReply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] Dead listwhat if it is the whining that he enjoys?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46GwJbrMghQ&sns=em
what if it is the whining that he enjoys?
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
> *From: *Randy Bennell
> *Sent: *Thursday, February 6, 2014 10:27 AM
> *To: *Mercedes Discussion List
> *Reply To: *Mercedes Discussion List
> *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] Dead list
>
>
From: Randy BennellSent: Thursday, February 6, 2014 10:27 AMTo: Mercedes Discussion ListReply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] Dead listOn 05/02/2014 5:29 PM, Mountain Man wrote:> Nope. We be dead, Jim. We have our heads in the sand. We be happy with > $$ and nuthin' gonna happen. mao
I got one of those with mine, but I haven't looked at the CD contents.
Dan
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 6, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yeah I know how it works, it's just that the blurb for the product did not
>> specify what app to use. I guess it is just a gene
Green River Wyoming is where "crispy pancakes" Hank of the Ritter list lives.
I know that because when I got my teaching degree in 2007 the wife and I were
considering going rural, and I spoke to their recruiter about a teaching job.
A G-d forsaken place, for sure. Far too rural for us, fortunat
On 05/02/2014 5:55 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
So where is everyone today?
Do we need to start an oil thread just to wake you folks up?
Randy
Several people requested nothing but MB topics and many cheered the
decree from listmom. So if it does not involve repair of a MB, then
we are to be quiet
e
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On Feb 5, 2014 8:59 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com"
wrote:
>
> I would bet that there are Indies or DIY's out there who have developed
work-arounds to bypass the deal
ve as a spare.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 20:58:56 -0500
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On 2/5/2014 7:47 PM, Tim
On 05/02/2014 7:37 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Someone requested an oil thread. Canola (rapeseed in the rest of the
world) has the highest gallon per acre yield of any plant. Except
maybe hemp or whatever Mao is taking about. Canola is one of the best
feed stocks for bio diesel. The only reason the U
On 05/02/2014 6:06 PM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:
The early 3 cylinder Honda Insights (2000 and later) were interesting
in that they got up to 70 mpg. Has anyone ever owned or driven one?
If I could find one that needed a lot of work; new big battery etc.,
I'd buy it just to play with.
G
On 05/02/2014 5:30 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
Dan wrote:
Sounds like you need to go to Colorado
I was there for 15 years.
Too many people there now.
mao
Ah, then try Wyoming.
A client was telling me about where he grew up - Green River, Wyoming.
A bit remote but beautiful.
Below is a quote
On 05/02/2014 5:29 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
Nope. We be dead, Jim. We have our heads in the sand. We be happy with
$$ and nuthin' gonna happen. mao
Hey, stop worrying about what other folks want.
Contemplate your navel and find things to enjoy in your life.
Randy
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Yeah I know how it works, it's just that the blurb for the product
did not specify what app to use. I guess it is just a generic data
transfer from the reader to the ether and then your particular
device and whatever app you have grabs it and displays it?
--R
What is on the biz card CD in t
Exactly.
The protocols for the OBDII data are the same no matter what, so the only real
variables are the means of transferring the data and the application used to
display it.
Dan
> On Feb 6, 2014, at 10:08 AM, Rich Thomas
> wrote:
>
> Yeah I know how it works, it's just that the blurb for
Yeah I know how it works, it's just that the blurb for the product did
not specify what app to use. I guess it is just a generic data transfer
from the reader to the ether and then your particular device and
whatever app you have grabs it and displays it?
--R
On 2/6/14 9:32 AM, Tim Crone wr
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> I got a dealextreme email a day or two ago, it had a bluetooth OBDII
> reader for cheepcheep, $20. Not sure what I would do with it, but there
> you go. It is a big vague on how you bluetooth it to somet
>From what I was able to determine, the BT ones don't always play nice and also
>seem to have a minimal range. WiFi had a lot better reviews as far as
>connectivity.
I drove in with my iPad running today, and it was definitely cool. I didn't
watch it closely, but when I did look the numbers wer
I got a dealextreme email a day or two ago, it had a bluetooth OBDII
reader for cheepcheep, $20. Not sure what I would do with it, but there
you go. It is a big vague on how you bluetooth it to something.
http://dx.com/p/super-mini-icar2-vehicle-bluetooth-obd-ii-code-diagnostic-tool-clearer-b
On 2/5/2014 9:11 PM, Tim Crone wrote:
On Feb 5, 2014 8:59 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com"
wrote:
I would bet that there are Indies or DIY's out there who have developed
work-arounds to bypass the dealers. Heard about a place in Pa that
specializes in rebuilding the big batteries and gauranteein
EU rapeseed probably is not GMO, they take a dim view of that. But
canyada and us rapeseed is gmo for the most part.
> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 19:37:15 -0600
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
From: 126die...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dead list
rapeseed is only adapted to Randy-like cli
> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 19:37:15 -0600
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> From: 126die...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dead list
> rapeseed is only adapted to Randy-like climes. Other oilseed species
> are more suited to the great plains and other parts of the US.
> Rapeseed
On Feb 5, 2014 9:11 PM, "Tim Crone" wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 5, 2014 8:59 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com"
wrote:
> >
> > I would bet that there are Indies or DIY's out there who have developed
work-arounds to bypass the dealers. Heard about a place in Pa that
specializes in rebuilding the big batteries
On Feb 5, 2014 8:59 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com"
wrote:
>
> I would bet that there are Indies or DIY's out there who have developed
work-arounds to bypass the dealers. Heard about a place in Pa that
specializes in rebuilding the big batteries and gauranteeing them.
Couldn't find any reference
On 2/5/2014 7:47 PM, Tim Crone wrote:
On Feb 5, 2014 7:06 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com"
wrote:
The early 3 cylinder Honda Insights (2000 and later) were interesting in
that they got up to 70 mpg. Has anyone ever owned or driven one? If I
could find one that needed a lot of work; new big batt
Someone requested an oil thread. Canola (rapeseed in the rest of the
world) has the highest gallon per acre yield of any plant. Except
maybe hemp or whatever Mao is taking about. Canola is one of the
best feed stocks for bio diesel. The only reason the US of A uses
soy oil, is because of the so
Carbon is fine if it comes from a power plant far, far away, not so much if it comes out of his tail pipe./sarcasm The TDI was probably a better environmental choice, but you would have to do the research.
Someone requested an oil thread. Canola (rapeseed in the rest of the world) has the highest gallon per acre yield of any plant. Except maybe hemp or whatever Mao is taking about. Canola is one of the best feed stocks for bio diesel. The only reason the US of A uses soy oil, is because of the soy lo
Working on trains.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/12676910/
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
> So where is everyone today?
>
> Do we need to start an oil thread just to wake you folks up?
>
> Randy
>
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On Feb 5, 2014 7:59 PM, "Rick Knoble" wrote:
>
> I know one is a Honda and the other a Nissan, but I think he's a glutton
for punishment.
Actually a philosophically-pure environmentalist, but same difference I
suppose. :) He sold his mid 90s VW TDI to get the Insight, I'm still
kicking myself for
From: Tim CroneSent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 6:47 PMTo: Mercedes ListReply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] Dead listHis final comment to the Honda corporate office was, "it doesn'tmake sense that the car, when used as it is supposed to be used, is totaledby normal wear and tear a
On Feb 5, 2014 7:06 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com"
wrote:
>
> The early 3 cylinder Honda Insights (2000 and later) were interesting in
that they got up to 70 mpg. Has anyone ever owned or driven one? If I
could find one that needed a lot of work; new big battery etc., I'd buy it
just to play with
On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:30:47 -0600 Mountain Man
wrote:
> Dan wrote:
> > Sounds like you need to go to Colorado
>
> I was there for 15 years.
> Too many people there now.
> mao
Nah! Just move farther east. There's not much around Punkin Center ...
If you want a little more moisture, Seibert
Yes, it runs on an iPod or iPad.
If you have an Android device there is an application called "Torque" that is
supposed to be really nice for such things. Do some Googling and you'll get
the details.
And yes, it runs on a non-phone iOS device, I believe, as long as it has WiFi
capabilities.
That is the only cool looking Asian hybrid and the only one that makes sense
with the mpg it gets.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 5, 2014, at 7:06 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com"
> wrote:
>
> The early 3 cylinder Honda Insights (2000 and later) were interesting in that
> they got up to 70 mpg.
The early 3 cylinder Honda Insights (2000 and later) were interesting in
that they got up to 70 mpg. Has anyone ever owned or driven one? If I
could find one that needed a lot of work; new big battery etc., I'd buy
it just to play with.
Gerry
"The difference between men and boys is the size o
So where is everyone today?
Do we need to start an oil thread just to wake you folks up?
Randy
Several people requested nothing but MB topics and many cheered the
decree from listmom. So if it does not involve repair of a MB, then
we are to be quiet. so the list is quiet.
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I bought an ELM WIFi OBDII transmitter on Amazon and it came today.
Just fired up the SL500 with the Dash Command iOS app on my iPad and
it's cool. I'll take the car for a test drive with it running after
dinner.
For a grand total of about $35 it's pretty cool ($22+shipping for
the OBDII don
If we keep talking about these revolutionary possibilities some of the
854,000 secret agents listed below are bound to find out about it and
haul us all off for interrogation and water boarding. We might even
wind up in Guantanamo.
"In 2010 there were 1,271 government organizations and 1,931
canola is garbage. not sure about hte prophet one way or another
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
> Rick wrote:
> > Canola
>
> Black Seed Nigella Sativa
>
> Mohammad says: There is healing in Black Seed for all diseases except
> death.
>
> mao
>
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> Sounds like you need to go to Colorado
I was there for 15 years.
Too many people there now.
mao
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Grant wrote:
> Did I piss off enough people yet? This should get some activity going..
>
Nope.
We be dead, Jim.
We have our heads in the sand.
We be happy with $$ and nuthin' gonna happen.
mao
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clay wrote:
> We need the osamacare death panels to be convened to reduce the pressure on
> the system by the infirm, old and indigent.
>
Hey...
That's me.
Okay, come and destroy me.
That ain't gonna happen.
But this kulture is already ruined.
There is no hope of recovery of anything.
Dream on if
Sounds like you need to go to Colorado
Dan who doesn't remember much of the 70s, but is sure he was there...
On Feb 5, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
> Rick wrote:
>> Canola
>
> Black Seed Nigella Sativa
>
> Mohammad says: There is healing in Black Seed for all diseases except dea
Rick wrote:
> Canola
Black Seed Nigella Sativa
Mohammad says: There is healing in Black Seed for all diseases except death.
mao
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On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:59:45 -0700 G Mann wrote:
> Did I piss off enough people yet? This should get some activity going..
> hahaha..
>
> Grant...
> [Who passes the pot stirring stick to the next fellow]
I took the stick and broke it and threw it in the fire.
Now away from politics and back to
A.. hell.. death panels are to slow... stimulate the economy with a
good strong revolt. Demand for everything will go up, panic buying of
durable goods will increase sales, and political deaths will purge the
society of many non-performers.
The number of war dead from violence, starvation, and
I thought politics were off the list, Kleb?
I bought an ELM WIFi OBDII transmitter on Amazon and it came today. Just fired
up the SL500 with the Dash Command iOS app on my iPad and it's cool. I'll take
the car for a test drive with it running after dinner.
For a grand total of about $35 it's
CBO says Osamacare will destroy the economy
The peons who use its low end coverage will remain in low end jobs with few
hours so they will remains on the subsidized list, instead of making America
great. The small business will cap employment at 49 people to not have to
offer insurance, and mo
We are all at the Seahawks glory parade.
clay
On Feb 5, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
> So where is everyone today?
>
> Do we need to start an oil thread just to wake you folks up?
>
> Randy
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Let's talk about nobama
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 5, 2014, at 3:45 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>
> So where is everyone today?
>
> Do we need to start an oil thread just to wake you folks up?
>
> Randy
>
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Have shovel will ache.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred.
>
> From: Randy Bennell
>To: Mercedes Discussion List
>Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 4:45 PM
>Subject: [MBZ] Dead list
>
>
>So where is everyone today?
>
>Do we ne
And, unfortunately this BlackBerry doesn't send plain text emails. And it makes bottom posting (top posting? ) very difficult. Ya'll (youse guys) will have to get over it.
Canola Rick Sent from my BlackBer
So where is everyone today?
Do we need to start an oil thread just to wake you folks up?
Randy
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