Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Gas Heat Exchangers was Hydrogen Power?

2008-05-22 Thread Peter Frederick
Ha ha! Neither is engineering, where in a situation like this there are so many things that all interact. I suspect that's why the Nomad never went into production -- it was fabulously efficient, but only when it actually worked Peter ___

Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Gas Heat Exchangers was Hydrogen Power?

2008-05-21 Thread Trampas
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Gas Heat Exchangers was Hydrogen Power? Right, can't get 212 out of the coolant...well, you can right before you have a lot of trouble. Even post turbo EGT is hot enough to boil water. If you could do that to run a generator or even use a second turbo

Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Gas Heat Exchangers was Hydrogen Power?

2008-05-21 Thread OK Don
I wonder if the water's expansion would off-set the cooling of the exhaust (lowering pressure and volume). If not, could this be a way to get low RPM boost - an alternative to the variable vane turbos? On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 6:03 AM, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put water injection before

Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Gas Heat Exchangers was Hydrogen Power?

2008-05-21 Thread John Robbins
OK Don wrote: I wonder if the water's expansion would off-set the cooling of the exhaust (lowering pressure and volume). I think so... or at least thats how I read the whole 'conservation of energy' thing. If not, could this be a way to get low RPM boost - an alternative to the variable

Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Gas Heat Exchangers was Hydrogen Power?

2008-05-21 Thread OK Don
Yup - that's what I thought. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:55 PM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: I wonder if the water's expansion would off-set the cooling of the exhaust (lowering pressure and volume). I think so... or at least thats how I read the whole 'conservation of

Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Gas Heat Exchangers was Hydrogen Power?

2008-05-21 Thread Jim Cathey
I wonder if the water's expansion would off-set the cooling of the exhaust (lowering pressure and volume). If not, could this be a way to get low RPM boost - an alternative to the variable vane turbos? It wouldn't gain you any energy, and would only be of use if it changed the

Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Gas Heat Exchangers was Hydrogen Power?

2008-05-20 Thread Christopher McCann
http://www.ejbowman.co.uk/products/ExhaustHeatExchangers.htm not the size of a small bus. Chris Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's possible but with today's technology, you'd have to tow along a heat exchanging system the size of a small buss. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com

Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Gas Heat Exchangers was Hydrogen Power?

2008-05-20 Thread Tom Hargrave
, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 8:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Gas Heat Exchangers was Hydrogen Power? http

Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Gas Heat Exchangers was Hydrogen Power?

2008-05-20 Thread Christopher McCann
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher McCann Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 8:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Gas Heat Exchangers was Hydrogen Power? http://www.ejbowman.co.uk/products/ExhaustHeatExchangers.htm

Re: [MBZ] Exhaust Gas Heat Exchangers was Hydrogen Power?

2008-05-20 Thread Peter Frederick
Take the compressor off the shaft and install a gear reduction system and a speed regulator (so it won't blow up) and you've got a turbo- generator. However, it's gonna be weak The engineering is, well, complex, as Napier found out. The Nomad was pretty much just a finger in Rolls