Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher

2006-07-23 Thread LarryT
, 2006 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher That's the other thing I think is superior about F1. VERY FEW if any of the tracks are flat! Lots of elevation changes, blind corners and off camber stuff to deal with. Not some goofy oval that evryone drives around and around

Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher

2006-07-23 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: Hello All, Ever since I was 13 or 14 I've been crazy for F1 - I read the all the books and magazines about the sport, I was a fan via the pages of RoadTrack. Every month, there would be multipage write-ups of each race, usually written by Innes Ireland or Rob Walker. In the

Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher

2006-07-23 Thread Jeff Zedic
Larry, I agree that they REALLY need to do something to improve F1. Mainly, we eed more actual RACING!! The way it is now with the strategy being all about pit stops is crapMany times I've seen the top 10 positions separated by 1.5-2 seconds in qualifying.ok, so why so little

Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher

2006-07-22 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:27:17 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=F1+vs+Ferrari+vs+Fiat Amazing. The Fiat starts first with a 30 second lead over the Ferrari which starts with nearly a minute lead over the F1, which starts third. They finish 3 - 2 - 1. Craig

Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher

2006-07-22 Thread Jeff Zedic
And that's with 10 year old F1 car.mind you, they were all 10 year old cars... notice the full slicks and decidedly lowtech/Indy nose cone on the F1 car??? ...primitive... The new smaller engine2.4 litre V8's are running faster lap times than the 3 litre V10's because they have better

Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher

2006-07-22 Thread Jeff Zedic
I think I posted a link to the same thing that MB did with David Coulthard and an A Class followed by an E55 AMG...same head start...same result. This was a W210 E55 so it was fewer years ago. Jeff Zedic Toronto

Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher

2006-07-22 Thread OK Don
That is serious traction - more G's than I ever pulled (or the plane would survive) in a Citabria! I can't imagine pulling those kind of G's on a flat surface! On 7/22/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And that's with 10 year old F1 car.mind you, they were all 10 year old cars...

Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher

2006-07-22 Thread Jeff Zedic
You want to know about F1 traction? Even without full slicks and with five year old aero packages, an F1 car can run upside down on the ceiling if you had a covered track. Once it's up to speed of course. You have a car and driver that weighs 1100 lbs max and they have 3500+ lbs of downforce.

Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher

2006-07-22 Thread Jeff Zedic
That's the other thing I think is superior about F1. VERY FEW if any of the tracks are flat! Lots of elevation changes, blind corners and off camber stuff to deal with. Not some goofy oval that evryone drives around and around and the last one to get dizzy wins. Jeff Zedic Toronto

Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher

2006-07-22 Thread OK Don
Hmmm - sounds like they have the lifting body perfected, just up-side-down! What would the rate of climb be for a 1100 airplane with 3500 pounds of lift? FUN! -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've exhausted all the alternatives. Sir Winston

Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher

2006-07-22 Thread OK Don
Yes - I was referring to not being banked as in an oval track. I followed the trans-am series, many years ago. I like road racing, am bored with roundy-round racing. On 7/22/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the other thing I think is superior about F1. VERY FEW if any of the

Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher

2006-07-22 Thread Mitch Haley
OK Don wrote: Hmmm - sounds like they have the lifting body perfected, just up-side-down! What would the rate of climb be for a 1100 airplane with 3500 pounds of lift? FUN! That would be called a loop. Normal climbing involves more power input than is necessary to maintain altitude. Excess

Re: [MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher

2006-07-22 Thread OK Don
I think it would be more a near vertical climb. Vertical acceleration of 69.8 ft./sec. The initial climb rate of an F16 is 1033 ft./sec. A Learjet is around 73 ft./sec. On 7/22/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don wrote: Hmmm - sounds like they have the lifting body perfected, just

[MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher

2006-07-21 Thread RELNGSON
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=F1+vs+Ferrari+vs+Fiat