Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-16 Thread WILTON
List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness Well, we were restricted to 270 knots IAS at low level (altitude) for years. I think any other fix for it may have been done during the 3 years I was off active duty, and I don't remember what it was. When I left G

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-16 Thread Rich Thomas
- Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness I had a girlfriend in college whose father had

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-16 Thread WILTON
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness I got a tour of a Looking Glass plane once at Offutt, while we were on board they initiated a connection with some general on board the Looking

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-16 Thread Rich Thomas
Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness I got a tour of a Looking Glass plane once at Offutt, while we

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-16 Thread G Mann
times.) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79TD300@** constructivity.net richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-16 Thread WILTON
Yep, me, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness Hey, we

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-16 Thread Mountain Man
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[MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread Gerry Archer
ELEPHANT MOUNTAIN, Maine - Flying low over snowy terrain on a Cold War training mission, Lt. Col. Dan Bulli's massive B-52 bomber hit turbulence that shook the plane so violently that he couldn't read the gauges. Pulling back on the yoke and pushing forward on the throttle, he tried to fly out

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread Craig
On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:11:39 -0500 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: ELEPHANT MOUNTAIN, Maine - Flying low over snowy terrain on a Cold War training mission, Lt. Col. Dan Bulli's massive B-52 bomber hit turbulence that shook the plane so violently that he couldn't read the gauges.

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness On Tue, 15 Jan 2013 07:11:39 -0500 Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: ELEPHANT MOUNTAIN, Maine - Flying low over snowy terrain on a Cold War training mission, Lt. Col. Dan Bulli's massive B-52 bomber hit turbulence that shook

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread Hendrik and fay
WHAT??? You read the manual?? Hendrik who must confess that he has read a manual or two On 16/01/13 08:19, WILTON wrote: Yes, and very aware of additional warnings in flight manual re. mountain wave, excessive turbulence, side loads on vertical stabilizer, etc. Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
altitudes, too, depending on height of the mountain. Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness WHAT

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread Scott Ritchey
:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness Yes, and very aware of additional warnings in flight manual re. mountain wave, excessive turbulence, side loads on vertical stabilizer, etc. Wilton - Original Message - From

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread Jon Agne
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness WHAT??? You read the manual?? Hendrik who must confess that he has read a manual or two On 16/01/13 08:19, WILTON wrote: Yes, and very aware of additional warnings in flight manual re. mountain wave, excessive

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
, 2013 4:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness Yes, and very aware of additional warnings in flight manual re. mountain wave, excessive turbulence, side loads on vertical stabilizer, etc. Wilton - Original Message - From

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
My thoughts, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:37 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness Not usually in Maine. On Jan 15, 2013

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread Scott Ritchey
: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness Yes, and very aware of additional warnings in flight manual re. mountain wave, excessive turbulence, side loads on vertical stabilizer, etc. Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread WILTON
: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness Well, we were restricted to 270 knots IAS at low level (altitude) for years. I think any other fix for it may have been done during the 3 years I was off active duty, and I don't remember what it was. When I left G models

Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness

2013-01-15 Thread Rich Thomas
] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:50 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fateful B-52 flight revealed plane's deadly weakness Yes, and very aware of additional warnings in flight manual re. mountain wave, excessive turbulence, side loads on vertical stabilizer