[MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
It is cold. Currently +9F outside. Garage doesn't feel any warmer, although some bottles of water I have sitting on the workbench haven't frozen. I am going to put a thermometer on the hood of the Benz overnight to see just how cold he garage is. Tried starting the Benz this morning. Good battery

[MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-10 Thread archer
Sunday the local paper reported the results of the Iowa poll: 1. 11% of Iowan name their cars; (Betsy and Betty are common.) 2. Only 5% of Iowans expect to go to hell, but 31% know someone who will. 3. Asked which one of lifes pleasure--food, drink, books, friends, or sex--they would give up if

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-08 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 20:05:04 -0600 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am beginning to think my fuel has gelled. I poured plenty of > PowerSource Fuel Conditioner in several days ago and have had a sixty > mile round trip since, plus around-town driving, so stuff is mixed. But > the fue

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2007-12-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
On Dec 8, 2007 8:53 PM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Have you tried to work the hand pump? -- Tomorrow > > > Is the "Off" lever on the injection pump up? -- Yes. I did drain off the vacuum at the shutoff valve and that didn't seem to help, although there wasn't much battery le

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2007-12-08 Thread Peter Frederick
Did you get any white smoke? If not, you have no fuel delivery for some reason. Lots of possibilities, including a stuck shutoff servo. Could be gelled fuel (although not likely if you put treatment in the tank), a cracked line, leaking fuel lines, or a bad hand pump if you still have the ol

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2007-12-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
I am just anal-retentive enough to doubt any sudden mechanical problems -- unless something major broke. Think "Felix Unger Owns A 240D." Shut-off valve is relatively new, hand pump is equally new, fuel lines are in good condition. Glow plugs upgraded from loop to pencil. I got "good" pre-glow lig

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2007-12-08 Thread Peter Frederick
If it's gelled fuel, the pre-filter will have wax in it. If that's the case, either warm the car up to melt the fuel or take the fuel filter (main one) off and fill it with anti-gel treatment and operate the hand pump until you hear fuel squirting out the overflow. May not get it to start, I'

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2007-12-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
On Dec 8, 2007 9:53 PM, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If it's gelled fuel, the pre-filter will have wax in it. I have a spare one > If that's the > case, either warm the car up to melt the fuel or take the fuel filter > (main one) off and fill it with anti-gel treatment and oper

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2007-12-08 Thread Peter Frederick
Something's not right -- my 300D starts reliably down into the single digits (at least, the old one did, don't know about the new one, hasn't been that cold yet). Even an elderly diesel should start reliably down to 0F. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com Fo

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2007-12-08 Thread Jim Cathey
Sudden GP system failures are not unheard of. Tight valves act like a no-start switch once the critical cold temperature is reached. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [E

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2007-12-08 Thread Wonko the Sane
If I'd had a glow plug failure, would I have seen a pre-glow light at the dash? (asking, curious) On Dec 8, 2007 11:20 PM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sudden GP system failures are not unheard of. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Proudly marching to the beat of a differen

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Mitch Haley
When was your last fuel fill? Before or after Labor Day? If it has mostly winter fuel in it, I wouldn't think 10-20F would be a problem (unless there is water in the fuel). You can probably use a hair dryer in the intake as a replacement or supplement to the GP system. Mitch. __

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2007-12-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Sane wrote: > > I put in 1/4 tank (to top it off) last week but I don't think they had > shifted to the winter mix at that point. "Winterized" stickers pop up on Michigan pumps in early September usually. Have been driving the 190E so I haven't paid attention to the diesel pumps this y

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2007-12-09 Thread Wonko the Sane
Went out and tried to start after I posted my last email. Car fired right up -- perhaps the heat from the block heater thawed whatever was frozen. ... Immediately drove to the fuel station and topped off (5.6 gallons) with 70/30 mix, plus dumped in the other half bottle of PowerService. ... I am w

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Jim Cathey
> If I'd had a glow plug failure, would I have seen a pre-glow light at > the > dash? (asking, curious) Possibly, it depends on the nature of the failure. I forget what your system looks like, is this the b**ized parallel plugs on a series system? With that you could lose all but one GP an

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2007-12-09 Thread Allan Streib
Yeah, same with mine. Allan On Dec 8, 2007, at 11:34 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > Something's not right -- my 300D starts reliably down into the single > digits (at least, the old one did, don't know about the new one, > hasn't > been that cold yet). ___ ht

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-09 Thread Wonko the Sane
I put in 1/4 tank (to top it off) last week but I don't think they had shifted to the winter mix at that point. Probably have mostly #2 diesel with a little bit leftover of biodiesel (just B-2), plus half a bottle of PowerSource. ... I am beginning to think water has accumulated in the primary fuel

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2007-12-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
My 140 diesel fired right up no problem right after the light went out, and ran smooth as silk. Wonko the Sane wrote: > Went out and tried to start after I posted my last email. Car fired right up > -- perhaps the heat from the block heater thawed whatever was frozen. ... > Immediately drove to t

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2007-12-09 Thread OK Don
So did my 300D 2.5 - but then the temp is only down to 28F here -- warm compared to points north --- On Dec 9, 2007 10:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My 140 diesel fired right up no problem right after the light went out, > and ran smooth as silk. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norma

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2007-12-09 Thread John M McIntosh
On Dec 8, 2007, at 6:05 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: > It is cold. Currently +9F outside. Well 30F here, balmy. However I was pleased to see on my fluke meter this am all glow plugs on the 83 measured 0.5 ohms. Starts nicely... Well I *was* looking for an excuse to buy a nice ratcheting wrench

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2007-12-09 Thread John Robbins
John M McIntosh wrote: > On Dec 8, 2007, at 6:05 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: > >> It is cold. Currently +9F outside. > > Well 30F here, balmy. However I was pleased to see on my fluke meter > this am all glow plugs on the 83 measured 0.5 ohms. Starts > nicely... You guys don't want to know how w

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2007-12-09 Thread Wonko the Sane
Don't forget -- I lived in Jax FL before moving to Iowa! On Dec 9, 2007 8:55 PM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John M McIntosh wrote: > > On Dec 8, 2007, at 6:05 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: > > > >> It is cold. Currently +9F outside. > > > > Well 30F here, balmy. However I was pleased t

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2007-12-09 Thread John Robbins
Wonko the Sane wrote: > Don't forget -- I lived in Jax FL before moving to Iowa! How on earth did you end up in Iowa? I don't understand why people still live there... I sure couldn't handle it! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list spo

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2007-12-09 Thread Wonko the Sane
This is where Debbie grew up. Much more sane pace of life than Jax has. Or other places I've lived: NYC, DC, etc. On Dec 9, 2007 9:16 PM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wonko the Sane wrote: > > Don't forget -- I lived in Jax FL before moving to Iowa! > > How on earth did you end up in

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2007-12-09 Thread OK Don
Come south, young man, come south. We're only getting ½ inch of ice tonight. On Dec 9, 2007 9:20 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is where Debbie grew up. Much more sane pace of life than Jax has. Or > other places I've lived: NYC, DC, etc. > > > On Dec 9, 2007 9:16 PM, John R

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2007-12-09 Thread Robert Rentfro
I often miss the more sane pace of the Midwest. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 8:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up! This is where Debbie grew up.

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2007-12-09 Thread Wonko the Sane
I would gladly take a foot of snow (Iowa) instead of a quarter inch of ice (Dallas, Atlanta, etc.). Of course, in Iowa we sometimes get both. In closely-spaced storms. On Dec 9, 2007 9:39 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Come south, young man, come south. We're only getting ½ inch of ice

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2007-12-09 Thread Rich Thomas
Was 80F here in Htown today, a wonderful sunny warm afternoon for our Ultimate game. I don't know how I ever survived up north for most of my life. --R Wonko the Sane wrote: > I would gladly take a foot of snow (Iowa) instead of a quarter inch of ice > (Dallas, Atlanta, etc.). > > Of course, i

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2007-12-09 Thread OK Don
Even with this little bit of ice we made the news --- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22173398/ On Dec 9, 2007 10:32 PM, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Was 80F here in Htown today, a wonderful sunny warm afternoon for our > Ultimate game. I don't know how I ever survived up north for most

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2007-12-09 Thread Kevin Kraly
Was 80F here in Htown today, a wonderful sunny warm afternoon for our Ultimate game. We've got 34F and snow flurries here in Hillsboro, what a day for breaking in the new RC engine in my Mega Baja Bug. At least I don't have to worry about it overheating. Mercedes content: I wish I could get

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2007-12-09 Thread OK Don
I'm glad you qualified your statement with "pace" - or I'd have to take issue about how "sane" we are --- On Dec 9, 2007 9:54 PM, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I often miss the more sane pace of the Midwest. > > Bob R. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: l

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2007-12-09 Thread Wonko the Sane
We moved from Florida to Iowa in part because we missed seeing the seasons. Christmas lights (all white) in palm trees detracts somewhat from the traditional Christmas spirit. Quite frankly, we grew wear of wearing shorts year round. Does a body good to shovel snow from time to time. Gotta get a li

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2007-12-10 Thread Dave H...
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:39 PM To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up! > Come south, young man, come south. We're only getting ½ inch of ice > tonight. > > On Dec 9, 2007 9:20 PM, Wonko the Sane <[EMAIL

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2007-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, work
ROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up! I would gladly take a foot of snow (Iowa) instead of a quarter inch of ice (Dallas, Atlanta, etc.). Of course, in Iowa we sometimes get both. In closely-spaced storms.

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2007-12-10 Thread Timothy Robinson
ndy. > From: "Kaleb C. Striplin, work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:29:49 -0600 > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up! > > Yea, here we sometimes get an inch

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2007-12-10 Thread Bill Ringgold
I vote for the come South part, but I'll take my yard full of flowers here in Jacksonville over your 1/2 inch of ice any time. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 12/9/07 10:39

Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up!

2007-12-10 Thread Bill Ringgold
FL -Original Message- From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 12/9/07 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up! This is where Debbie grew up. Much more sane pace of life than Jax has. Or other places I've lived: N

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2007-12-10 Thread John Robbins
Wonko the Sane wrote: > This is where Debbie grew up. Much more sane pace of life than Jax > has. Or other places I've lived: NYC, DC, etc. There are such things as small towns in the rest of the country! > We moved from Florida to Iowa in part because we missed seeing the > seasons. Christmas

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2007-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond
nyway, I got my snowmobiles out Saturday, 3 out of 4 ready to go, the fourth is waiting for an exhaust but my source disappeared... -Curt Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:12:22 -0600 From: "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up! To: "Mercedes Discuss

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2007-12-10 Thread Rich Thomas
I did that once up on the Penobscot Rivvuh, "fished" all night and drank about a case of beer, and did catch some smelts. Was pretty rough driving back to Bahstan the next morning... --R Curt Raymond wrote: > My Dad is 64 and I was interested to hear when we were at deer camp him > talking fo

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2007-12-10 Thread LarryT
List" Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up! > > My Dad is 64 and I was interested to hear when we were at deer camp him > talking fondly of nights spent smelt fishing. > > When you're in an ice shack thats built well and has at least

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2007-12-10 Thread OK Don
That's what the Rocky Mountains are for - star gazing. Woke up this morning to several tree limbs on and behind the SDL and the wife's van - spent the morning clearing them away, in the freezing rain, picked the wife for lunch, and found three more large limbs down when I got back. You hear a crac

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2007-12-10 Thread OK Don
Oh, yes - the power has been out since 10AM. There are power lines down all over the state, it's hard to drive through town, having to go around them. Having an all electric house sucks at times like this --- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and stati

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2007-12-10 Thread Curt Raymond
27;d guess thats to keep the law away. Seems like it'd be a big help if there were no power. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:27:40 -0600 From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up! To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTEC

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2007-12-10 Thread Glenn Brown
For those of you who are living through the ice storm, I know how you feel as we had a similar event in Rochester, NY in '91 and we were without power for almost 2 weeks. I hope I never have to live through another one of these. Good luck to you folks and stay warm. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC _

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2007-12-10 Thread John M McIntosh
On Dec 10, 2007, at 3:25 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > I looked at a little radient heater at the hardware store that can > double as a cooker, something like 14,000 BTU on high IIRC. Ahh here > it is http://www.mrheater.com/productdetails_extended.asp?catid=42&id=22 > I know it says outdoor use

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2007-12-10 Thread Timothy Robinson
e: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:27:45 -0800 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up! > > > On Dec 10, 2007, at 3:25 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > >> I looked at a little radient heater at the hardware store that can >> double as a cooker,

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2007-12-10 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:45:52 -0500 Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please be careful! > > So many homeowners and contractors insist on those unvented gas > fireplaces and I just know someone's gonna fall asleep on the sofa and > die of CO2 poisoning! The local codes only prohibit t

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2007-12-10 Thread Timothy Robinson
Again... my bad... CO > From: Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List > Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:24:17 -0700 > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up! > > On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:45:52 -0500 Timothy Robi

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2007-12-11 Thread LarryT
Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "John M McIntosh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up! > > On Dec 10, 2007, at 3:25 PM, Cur

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2007-12-11 Thread Curt Raymond
p;id=116 but its nearly twice as much money for something that won't get used a whole lot... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:45:52 -0500 From: Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up! To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List" Messag

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2007-12-11 Thread OK Don
More tree limbs fell during the night. One took out our mailbox, another was across the hod of the SDL this morning - looks like it fell, then bounced over - no dents that I can see. The house is at 60F, outside is up to 33F, it's raining. This is the largest power outage that OK has had, over 500k

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2007-12-11 Thread Curt Raymond
ll in the basement either... House was built in 1938 by a guy who worked in a wooden toy factory. He did a reasonably good job but insulation was largely overlooked. -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:27:45 -0800 From: John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced

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2007-12-11 Thread Luther
Or if idiots didn't plant large trees next to power lines as they do in our area Luther On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:26:12 -0600, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More tree limbs fell during the night. One took out our mailbox, > another was across the hod of the SDL this morning - looks like

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2007-12-11 Thread Curt Raymond
AIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm iced up! To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Or if idiots didn't plant large trees next to power lines as they do in our area Luther ---

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2007-12-11 Thread OK Don
We got power today - twice. It was on fro less than an hour early in the afternoon, then went off for a couple of hours, and has been on for the last three hours - we're starting to believe that it might last through the night. We're very fortunate - most still don't have power, and they aren't exp

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2007-12-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 08:26:12 -0600 "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I asume it costs more to bury the lines? Seems like we'd avoid a lot > of outages if they were'nt flying up there in the trees --- Yes, it costs more for the initial installation to bury the lines. The upkeep, however, is l

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2007-12-11 Thread OK Don
Yup - though I had to do that when I put the Olds V8 in the MGA. I keep hearing that drive shaft shops won't balance MB shafts - what if you asked them to balance each half separately - then it wouldn't matter how they are aligned when you assemble and install them. Getting the "right" gen head a

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2007-12-11 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:30:37 -0600 "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm thinking that the 240D needs a NA 617 engine in front of the > manual tranny, and the 616 engine needs to sit in front of a gen head, > in the back yard. Good thinking! You'll have to change or modify the driveshaft, tho

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2007-12-11 Thread Rich Thomas
I picked a small bunch of bananas off one of my trees today, very ripe and sweet. Got another small bunch that will be ready in a couple of weeks maybe. --R > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/

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2007-12-12 Thread andrew strasfogel
I guess you don't live in Don's neighborhood On Dec 11, 2007 11:09 PM, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I picked a small bunch of bananas off one of my trees today, very ripe > and sweet. Got another small bunch that will be ready in a couple of > weeks maybe. > > --R > > > > __

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2007-12-12 Thread Rich Thomas
No, but it did get cooler this morning. Left to take daughter unit to work, it was 73F, about 20 min later it was 65F, cooled down a bit more since, but not too bad. That is the tail end of that ice storm front that finally got to us after stalling out just north of town yesterday. The warm

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2007-12-12 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:53:48 -0600 "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yup - though I had to do that when I put the Olds V8 in the MGA. I > keep hearing that drive shaft shops won't balance MB shafts - what if > you asked them to balance each half separately - then it wouldn't > matter how they

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2007-12-12 Thread Peter Frederick
The issue with balancing MB driveshafts is how to hold them in the balancer as they don't have a standard slip spline nor an open u-joint like everyone else uses. The adapters are available -- for $1500 each (and you need both ends) -- unless a shop sees enough of them to pay for the adapters