Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-21 Thread Randy Bennell
On 17/05/2013 7:32 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On May 12, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Try replacing the oil pressure sensor first. They are electronic and do go bad. I changed the sender out today. No change. Will do the o-rings tomorrow. I hope I haven't done any

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-21 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 21, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Try putting a test gauge on and see if there is actually pressure there. Will try that when I get another day off. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-18 Thread Brian Toscano
if oil pressure is low at idle take the oil filler cap off and see how much blow by you have. On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com wrote: OM60x Min specs I believe are: 0.3 bar at idle and at least 3 bar at 3000 rpm. Not sure what a 2.5 runs @ 60. 2200 RPM? So as

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-17 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 12, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Try replacing the oil pressure sensor first. They are electronic and do go bad. I changed the sender out today. No change. Will do the o-rings tomorrow. I hope I haven't done any damage by running it with low oil pressure.

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-17 Thread Craig
On Fri, 17 May 2013 19:32:31 -0500 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On May 12, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Try replacing the oil pressure sensor first. They are electronic and do go bad. I changed the sender out today. No change. Will do the o-rings

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-17 Thread Peter Frederick
On the turbos, minimum 0.5 bar at idle hot, must peg the gauge at 1500 rpm. Typically you won't see less than 2 bar at idle unless you are stuck in a traffic jam on a hot summer day with the AC on. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-17 Thread Craig
On Fri, 17 May 2013 22:09:35 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: On the turbos, minimum 0.5 bar at idle hot, must peg the gauge at 1500 rpm. Typically you won't see less than 2 bar at idle unless you are stuck in a traffic jam on a hot summer day with the AC on. Is that

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-17 Thread Peter Frederick
Should be about the same -- the reason you normally see 2 bar is that the cooling spray jets that spray oil onto the bottom of the pistons open at 2 bar. Unless you have a really worn engine or a dying oil pump, there is enough flow to open the jets at idle. Peter

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-17 Thread Chris James
OM60x Min specs I believe are: 0.3 bar at idle and at least 3 bar at 3000 rpm. Not sure what a 2.5 runs @ 60. 2200 RPM? So as long as it's pegged by 80 your OK! :-) Seriously though, from browsing the archive I'd replace both the o-rings oil filter to rule out any sealing/gasket issues. IF

[MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-12 Thread Rick Knoble
Hi All, A question for the group. Last night on the way to work, the oil pressure on my '92 300D dropped from 3 bar pegged to a little over 2 bar, while driving 60 mph. (Tach is on the todo list). At idle, warm, it is BELOW one bar. That is WAY too low, I know that. When cold it runs where it

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Have you checked the oil level? Is it too high? If so it's leaking diesel fuel from the ip into the engine oil thinning it out Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All, A question for the group. Last night on the way to work, the oil

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-12 Thread Dan Penoff
First question would be: What kind/weight of oil are you using, and what are the ambient temps? Dan On May 12, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: Hi All, A question for the group. Last night on the way to work, the oil pressure on my '92 300D dropped from 3 bar pegged to a little

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-12 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 12, 2013, at 6:48 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: First question would be: What kind/weight of oil are you using, and what are the ambient temps? Mobil 1 5w40 Turbo Diesel, ambient temp 49 degrees Fahrenheit. Oil is full and does not smell like fuel. Due for a change though.

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-12 Thread Rick Knoble
On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: 3. Failed oil pump. 4. Failed oil sender? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That could be possible too Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: 3. Failed oil pump. 4. Failed oil sender? Rick Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-12 Thread Dan Penoff
After dealing with a wonky coolant temp gauge myself, I wouldn't trust the gauge. Put a mechanical gauge on it to be sure. Dan On May 12, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That could be possible too Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Rick Knoble

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-12 Thread WILTON
: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel On May 12, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: 3. Failed oil pump. 4. Failed oil sender? Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-12 Thread Dieselhead
Bad ground? Tach is inop. What year? Does it have a self destructing wiring harness? These have not been prevalent on Diesels, but still possible as the cars age. I seemed to get the things that Herr Doktor said were impossible. That could be possible too Sent from my iPhone On May

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-12 Thread Peter Frederick
Verify that the pressure is indeed low and you don't just have a bad pressure sender unit! Mine did something similar, then dropped to zero and sat there. Replaced the sender, works fine. It is also possible to dislodge an internal seal in the oil filter, which will drop the oil

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-12 Thread Max
Try replacing the oil pressure sensor first. They are electronic and do go bad. I thought my '87 wagon had abnormally low pressure at hot idle, and so replaced the sensor and then it read 1.5 bar or higher. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-12 Thread Dieselhead
Try replacing the oil pressure sensor first. They are electronic and do go bad. I thought my '87 wagon had abnormally low pressure at hot idle, and so replaced the sensor and then it read 1.5 bar or higher. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20 __

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure W124 2.5 Turbo Diesel

2013-05-12 Thread Trent Fiorini
I can have you a sensor by tues. Wed at the latest. if you let me know tomorrow. On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Try replacing the oil pressure sensor first. They are electronic and do go bad. I thought my '87 wagon had abnormally low pressure at hot

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure

2012-02-21 Thread Jim Cathey
410 pass is closed, you will have to do 12 or 90. Even 90 was closed this morning, we had to go 'round by 12. Urk. Shoulda just waited, but there were no guarantees. No hard top, so no defog issue. Aurora had lotsa hard tops when I was last there. Didn't want any more! I've even got an

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure

2012-02-21 Thread clay monroe
Aurora is a joy to shop. Guess I could drop a bundle there for a top, but I am cheep, and not likely to part with cash when shoo-goo will do the job. Maybe I invest in a 3-D printer and make one on myself. clay On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: 410 pass is closed, you will

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure

2012-02-17 Thread clay monroe
410 pass is closed, you will have to do 12 or 90. It is a just drive it. Bushings and fluid would be simple. I have three clusters on the shelf, some other parts I pulled at PnP years ago. Not going to six million $$$ man the car, but can do some fix. Chrome is old, the whole car is old,

[MBZ] Low Oil Pressure

2012-02-16 Thread clay monroe
http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/ctd/2838960203.html Looked at this today. In the rain, no obvious current leaks, but there is evidence of former leaks and rust accumulation in the shelf and passenger footwell. Came from the factory as red, and whoever did the spray to black went wild and

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure

2012-02-16 Thread WILTON
Why oh why would somebody paint black a car like this that came from factory in its best color - red? Wilton - Original Message - From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] Low Oil

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure

2012-02-16 Thread clay monroe
...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:00 PM Subject: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/ctd/2838960203.html Looked at this today. In the rain, no obvious current leaks, but there is evidence of former

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure

2012-02-16 Thread Jim Cathey
The real issues are the transmission having an over-broad neutral. Nylon bushings? Checked cold ATF and it was over full. After the test drive, with engine running, stick was dry. Normal, for low fluid. Needs more ATF. Oil pressure indicator does not peg. Light off, got pressure close

Re: [MBZ] Low Oil Pressure

2012-02-16 Thread Kevin Kraly
Those AUTOMACTIC trannies are expensive to fix. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR, still trying to contact the owner of that 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Low oil pressure?

2006-12-27 Thread Bill Gallagher
The Westerbeke oil pressure reads: Start up diesel 65 psi 20 minutes operation 30 to 40 psi and drop to 20 psi a few times at 2200 rpm Throttle back psi go up to 50 to 55 then drops down to the 30 to 40 psi range Change oil sender and unit two years ago and no problem for that year. Last year

Re: [MBZ] Low oil pressure?

2006-12-27 Thread Mitch Haley
Worn bearings will not make the pressure fluctuate up and down. Bad wiring on an electric gauge will. Flaky bypass/relief valve could too. If the pressure rises when you decrease RPMs, I would wonder about oil level not being ideal.

Re: [MBZ] Low oil pressure?

2006-12-27 Thread barrystark
Bill - I guess you have checked the easy stuff. O-rings on the oil filter bolt, proper filter, proper oil viscosity? It is also pretty easy to drop the steel portion of the oil pan to see if there is loose stuff in there that may be being sucked into and blocking the the oil pump inlet screen.

[MBZ] Low oil pressure?

2006-12-26 Thread Werner Fehlauer
Low oil pressure after it gets up to operating temps? #1 cause is bad main bearings; or perhaps a bad pressure regulating valve on the oil pump output combined with a worn out oil pump combined with the wrong oil viscosity. If he's really lucky, just the wrong oil! Werner - Original

Re: [MBZ] Low oil pressure?

2006-12-26 Thread Tom Hargrave
Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Low oil pressure? Low oil pressure after it gets up to operating temps? #1 cause is bad main bearings; or perhaps a bad pressure regulating valve on the oil pump output combined with a worn out oil pump combined with the wrong oil viscosity. If he's really lucky, just

Re: [MBZ] Low oil pressure?

2006-12-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If its above .3 bar its OK. Tom Hargrave wrote: How low? Is it above 1 BAR? If so then it is not low. Another cause for low oil pressure is using a Fram oil filter. Fram uses 2 paper elements instead of a paper on the top section a mat element on the bottom section. The lower mat element is

Re: [MBZ] Low oil pressure?

2006-12-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If its above .3 bar its OK. I'm no Westerbeke expert, but .3 idle sounds low, and .3 cruising sounds deadly. I think it's normal to put a .5 bar low oil pressure alarm switch on an Atomic 4 gasser.

Re: [MBZ] Low oil pressure?

2006-12-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
.3 is min factory spec at idle. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If its above .3 bar its OK. I'm no Westerbeke expert, but .3 idle sounds low, and .3 cruising sounds deadly. I think it's normal to put a .5 bar low oil pressure alarm switch on an Atomic 4 gasser.