Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-21 Thread MG via Mercedes
Well if he only puts it on the outside surface of the pipe away from the front edge. I kind of have a vision of goop smear indiscriminately all over the pipe right over the front cut edge and then jammed into the hose with the stuff getting shoved ahead of the pipe by the edge of the metal. Tha

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-20 Thread clay via Mercedes
I gave that some thought, but expected that most of it would be smeared around by the patch hose and seal the patch long enough for the replacement hose to arrive before the weekend > On Dec 20, 2016, at 11:39 AM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > > I don't know if I would have told him to RTV the end

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-20 Thread MG via Mercedes
I don't know if I would have told him to RTV the ends of the pipe. I can see too much RTV put on there and then breaking off and getting into the radiator with disastrous results to same. Manfred Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 17:40:42 -0800 From: clay An Update. He tried to run the car in the fre

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-19 Thread clay via Mercedes
An Update. He tried to run the car in the freeze with a generic NAPA hose while awaiting the special order proper hose. A little learning event over the past week with much discussion about how to get the radiator unfrozen. Today he got the hose, temp was near freeze, and he put it on. Drove

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-11 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Shouldn't be necessary... remember these cars were designed for and tested in extreme conditions. Cooling system maintenance for these conditions is much easier than the other extreme. A working thermostat and the right antifreeze mix and you're good to go Now if you were in Death Valley towing

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-10 Thread clay via Mercedes
Given the temps the car lives in, I told him to warm it up really well and put a shroud over the front of the rad. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei retired models- 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-10 Thread clay via Mercedes
$$ is always an issue. Kid needs to get back into school and find a program that allows him to afford to do stupid things. We will see how the oil industry gets on. SWMBA and #1 both depend on that industry for economic sustenance clay > On Dec 10, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Max Dillon via Me

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-10 Thread clay via Mercedes
$$ is always an issue. Kid needs to get back into school and find a program that allows him to afford to do stupid things. We will see how the oil industry gets on. SWMBA and #1 both depend on that industry for economic sustenance clay > On Dec 10, 2016, at 11:54 AM, Max Dillon via Me

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-10 Thread clay via Mercedes
That would be bestest, but kids these days know far better than their parents clay > On Dec 10, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > I would suggest the last is the best in this case. Find a heated shop that > will put the car in over night, and get everything thawed BE

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-10 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
The coolant will turn to slush before it freeze solid. No damage in the slush stage. Sadly, I've seen it. Jaime On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Leaning by affliction will get the job done, but $$$. > > If oil industry starts up again,

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-10 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Leaning by affliction will get the job done, but $$$. If oil industry starts up again, maybe $ won't be an issue for him? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Un

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I would suggest the last is the best in this case. Find a heated shop that will put the car in over night, and get everything thawed BEFORE starting the hose/coolant change. You might ask them if they can put in the block heater. clay via Mercedes December 10,

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-10 Thread clay via Mercedes
He never got it above 180 or so according to his report. The car sits outside and probably froze very well with only enough fluid to fill the block getting superheated, such that when it hit the ice, it would sublimate and expend 600 calories turning ice into steam to the point the hose burst.

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-10 Thread clay via Mercedes
That was the advice given. He just wanted to fire up the car and walk away while the engine warmed up after putting coolant in. I told him he needs to remain on site, watch for bubbles to rise (burp) and to keep filling as the level in the overflow tank drops. Also to remove the belly pan and

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-10 Thread clay via Mercedes
Yeah, This is his first car and being under 25, he has the current generations belief that all things run forever with minimal assistance. I am pretty sure this is his first purchase of coolant in three years. I have advised him to read his owner manuals and even gave him a set of shop books.

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-10 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I have had something similar happen to me years ago Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 10, 2016, at 10:53 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > 4 Years ago I was driving #3 niece to a medical appointment on a day I > wouldn't > have otherwise been out and about, with 'antifreeze' that was

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-10 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
4 Years ago I was driving #3 niece to a medical appointment on a day I wouldn't have otherwise been out and about, with 'antifreeze' that was too stiff to circulate. Took 4 miles to warm the engine up, then the temp gauge started climbing too high. Parked it (like I'm guessing Alex didn't) for fi

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-10 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
If the coolant froze, he may have larger problems than a hose - - - a frozen radiator most likely if split somewhere. The block could also be cracked. Watch very closely once it's thawed and run for leaking coolant and coolant temperatures. On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 7:20 AM, Curley McLain via Merced

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-10 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
+1 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes December 10, 2016 at 6:05 AM 5w30 is certainly a good idea and recommended for operating below -4F. But the real issue here is just adhering to the proper mix of antifreeze. Follow the chart on the bottle! Its there for a reason. W

Re: [MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-10 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
5w30 is certainly a good idea and recommended for operating below -4F. But the real issue here is just adhering to the proper mix of antifreeze. Follow the chart on the bottle! Its there for a reason. When you get to these extremes the specs and recommendations are important. A block heater is

[MBZ] M104 block heater

2016-12-09 Thread clay via Mercedes
Overheat disaster in ND! #1 boy took the w140 300SE to work this morning in -16f temps. May have had too much water in the system and we think his radiator was frozen up. Work is only 3 miles away and he made it half way there before the top hose blew off the block.He got the car home eve