Which is why I said it depends on the local prices/conditions. That
includes the propensity of the local gas utility and oil dealers to
gouge in the event of a cold winter or a few extreme cold days.
Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote on 11/16/19 6:09 PM:
Although it is said that natural ga
Although it is said that natural gas is cheaper to heat with than oil, my
experience has been different.
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> On Nov 16, 2019, at 6:24 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Good advice.Remember that there is 1 NG pipeline for all of New England. A
> few years ago durin
My rental house is built on sand. Some years ago the water heater was leaking
badly for a few weeks before it was replaced but the basement would not flood.
Water wouldn’t even puddle as it all drained down into the sandy earth.
My house- the one I live in just a few blocks away is also built on
Depends on where you are. Where I live we have very sandy soil that I can't
come up with the name for right now.My parents have heavy clay which is more
like what I'd expect Dimitri's Maine house to have.
Our camp is built on glacial tilth, lots of rocks...
Curt
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Good advice.Remember that there is 1 NG pipeline for all of New England. A few
years ago during the "polar vortex" the price of NG skyrocketed. Oil went up
but way less.
OTOH there are rebates for switching to gas. Check out masssave.com
Curt
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On Thu, Nov 14,
That does sound like the thing to do!
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 7:17 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> This is a huge 200 year old house with cast iron steam radiators.
> Unfortunately, changing over from steam heat is outside of my budget! As
> far as the ground g
This is a huge 200 year old house with cast iron steam radiators.
Unfortunately, changing over from steam heat is outside of my budget! As far as
the ground goes, the whole town is built on sand! And I found out today that
the gas company won’t be excavating now as we are into winter. Will have
Yes, "it all depends". Ours circulates water in a closed loop through two
300 ft. deep holes in the front yard. They filled around the tubing with
some magic substance - I never did find out what it was, but the system
works great.
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 2:25 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
merce
We looked into ground source a while back too but there were two issues
for us apart from the cost. One was the size of our lot which was not
really big enough to readily do all the holes required and the 2nd was
the amount of soil before we would encounter rock. If we wanted to do it
with fewe
On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 13:11:39 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
wrote:
> Yes - IIRC, we paid about $12,000 for our ground source heat pump. At
> that time, propane was very expensive (as was gasoline), so we broke
> even with our total energy costs being reduced by 50%. We broke even in
> 8 years. It's al
Absolutely. However, we knew we probably wouldn’t be in the home long enough to
recoup the costs, so it didn’t make a lot of sense at the time.
Also, I wonder if the soil composition where Dimitri is looking is an issue,
since New England has some pretty rocky soil...
-D
> On Nov 15, 2019, at
Yes - IIRC, we paid about $12,000 for our ground source heat pump. At that
time, propane was very expensive (as was gasoline), so we broke even with
our total energy costs being reduced by 50%. We broke even in 8 years. It's
all gravy from here on ---
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 1:07 PM Dan--- via Mer
Looks like a ground source heat pump is the way to go. Unfortunately, they
don’t show the acquisition cost, which would balance it out a bit in comparison.
My former HVAC guy in Indiana swore by them. The heating and cooling costs for
my behemoth (4,000+ sf) house there would have been about (ab
On Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:33:28 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
wrote:
> Our Manitoba Hydro provides electricity and natural gas. Here is their
> comparison chart for various systems.
>
> https://www.hydro.mb.ca/your_home/heating_and_cooling/space_heating_costs.pdf
Thank you, Randy. That's a ver
Our Manitoba Hydro provides electricity and natural gas. Here is their
comparison chart for various systems.
https://www.hydro.mb.ca/your_home/heating_and_cooling/space_heating_costs.pdf
Randy
On 14/11/2019 6:46 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
I have to replace a steam boiler in on
Propane almost always beats oil.
In my area, oil is over $2 and propane is over $1.
So for me, propane is cheaper as well as cleaner.
In almost all cases, if there's a pipeline on yournstreet, NG is cheaper than
propane or oil.
Then the only question is how many years it takes to recover the c
Maybe that's a sign that others have done the math, and economically gas is the
way to go.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
Nov 15, 2019 6:40:03 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes :
> I’m trying to get a heating contractor who does natural gas but the few out
> here seem to be booked for months. This
I’m trying to get a heating contractor who does natural gas but the few out
here seem to be booked for months. This part of Maine is still oil country it
seems!
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> On Nov 14, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Get bids for installation of the gas,
Get bids for installation of the gas, and estimates for consumption.
Or figure BTU per year of your oil system, and figure the amount of NG
for the same BTUs/year. Compare that to the contractor's estimated
consumption.
Prices in your area will determine cost/benefit, not someone else's
Oil is nasty and requires a lot of maintenance. Gas is clean and you don’t have
to deal with a truck bringing it
--FT
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> On Nov 14, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I have to replace a steam boiler in one of my rental properties. It is
> currentl
Most NG providers run a line for free to the house. All you need is to have
enough products/demand for them to bother. I did furnace, hot water, range
and that was good for them. I could have tossed in gas dryer and fireplace.
If you get back up NG generator you get more interest.
Gas pr
I have to replace a steam boiler in one of my rental properties. It is
currently an oil burner. I keep hearing that it’s cheaper to heat with natural
gas vs oil but that hasn’t necessarily been my experience. There is gas on the
street but no gas line to the house. Any thoughts?
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