Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-05-02 Thread clay
The Saga continues. DBAG no longer makes the ignition lock, just the tumbler and key. W116 and W107 are S.O.L. if you need one from the factory. Chinese now manu-fake a replacement that can be sourced for under $200, but not from the dealer. I ordered the tumbler and coded key at the dealer

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread Mountain Man
Craig wrote: > Well, good! Yes - Tom at Classic is good for lotsa stuff, thankfully. Several years ago he got me the correct number for clutch master cylinder and I ordered it at dealer. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebe

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread Craig
On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 15:32:51 -0700 clay wrote: > Retards are involved with the EPC, Tom called his tuetonic mentors and > they told him that the NLA only applied to later editions, since the > early cars... 116, 115, 114 used the same tumblers. That would be a > total screw you over to not allow

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig wrote: On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 14:53:14 -0700 clay wrote: Tom is aware of the NLA on 450SL tumblers, but the EPC says it applies to all the cars, but it is not true for Froggy now. That's not a very nice way to treat us. What did he do? Why is it no longer true for Froggy? My understa

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread clay
Retards are involved with the EPC, Tom called his tuetonic mentors and they told him that the NLA only applied to later editions, since the early cars... 116, 115, 114 used the same tumblers. That would be a total screw you over to not allow people to use their cars. clay On Apr 28, 2014, at

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread Craig
On Mon, 28 Apr 2014 14:53:14 -0700 clay wrote: > Tom is aware of the NLA on 450SL tumblers, but the EPC says it applies > to all the cars, but it is not true for Froggy now. That's not a very nice way to treat us. What did he do? Why is it no longer true for Froggy? Craig __

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread OK Don
Excellent news! On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:53 PM, clay wrote: > Tom is aware of the NLA on 450SL tumblers, but the EPC says it applies to > all the cars, but it is not true for Froggy now. > > clay > -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! "There ar

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread clay
Tom is aware of the NLA on 450SL tumblers, but the EPC says it applies to all the cars, but it is not true for Froggy now. clay On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:26 PM, OK Don wrote: > If Froggy is '74 as I suspect, he needs a tumbler from a 115 or 116, > nothing much later. It should heave the edge cut k

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-28 Thread clay
MAgic Tom at Classic center got me a solution clay On Apr 26, 2014, at 5:08 PM, Mountain Man wrote: > clay wrote: >> Parts guy plans to call Germany... > > Maybe try the classic center somewhere down in SoCal. > mao > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-27 Thread Craig
On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 22:26:09 -0500 OK Don wrote: > If Froggy is '74 as I suspect, he needs a tumbler from a 115 or 116, > nothing much later. It should heave the edge cut key. It might be that > Curt is correct, you need to clean it, and possibly need a new key, but > the tumbler assembly might

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-27 Thread OK Don
If Froggy is '74 as I suspect, he needs a tumbler from a 115 or 116, nothing much later. It should heave the edge cut key. It might be that Curt is correct, you need to clean it, and possibly need a new key, but the tumbler assembly might be OK. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-27 Thread Craig
On Sun, 27 Apr 2014 09:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Curt Raymond wrote: > I can't imagine the side cut keys are significantly different although > I've never had one to play with. If somebody wanted to donate a tumbler > from one I'd spend some time on it. I might be able to liberate one of the tumblers fr

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-27 Thread Jim Cathey
107's, with their near-20-year run, exhibit quite a variation over the years. ACC, engines, keys, etc. Our 1983 and 1986 SL's used different keys, for example. 1986 was side-cut, the 1983 was old-school edge-cut. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To searc

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-27 Thread Curt Raymond
#x27;ve never had one to play with. If somebody wanted to donate a tumbler from one I'd spend some time on it. -Curt Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 15:36:20 -0700 From: clay To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers Message-ID: <97a84a7f-5d6f-4cb9-899b-

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-26 Thread Mitchell Haley, EA
> Not sure if a locksmith can rebuild it, as new bits would be required to > do a proper job. I wonder what would happen if you ground down the ends of the wafers so that the key doesn't have to fit as precisely. You'd lose some theftproofing, but as long as the wafers were good enough to not all

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-26 Thread Hendrik and Fay
Would this be it? http://www.ecklersmbzparts.com/mercedes-ignition-lock-tumbler-with-key.html http://www.mbpartsworld.com/p/__/TUMBLER/7417181/1164620279.html And yes they are getting hard to find and the problem with S/H is that they may be worn out as well. When they do come up they cost a bit

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-26 Thread Meade Dillon
Yes, Tom Hanson at The Classic Center... Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-26 Thread Mountain Man
clay wrote: > Parts guy plans to call Germany... Maybe try the classic center somewhere down in SoCal. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebe

Re: [MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-26 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel
I've had a locksmith successfully rekey a 107 door tumbler, so I don't see why not. On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 5:36 PM, clay wrote: > I went to the dealer to order a fresh tumbler for Froggy. We spent a half > hour on the EPC trying to figure out what the heck to do . The datac ard > does not sh

[MBZ] Now you can't get R107 Tumblers

2014-04-26 Thread clay
I went to the dealer to order a fresh tumbler for Froggy. We spent a half hour on the EPC trying to figure out what the heck to do . The datac ard does not show for the car, and the parts are not available anymore. There were five tumbler options and they all showed as being substituted to an