Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 5:32:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix What about finding someone with a 603rodbender and offering to purchase their #22 head? This is what I did on eBay for my SDL. Came with injectors

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
: Sat, March 5, 2011 9:53:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix I have had cars with that sound, so the fins are saying that a bad head gasket can cause that? I always just thought it was a lifter. On 3/4/2011 6:42 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Alex, have you watched the videos

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-07 Thread Max Dillon
mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 9:53:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix I have had cars with that sound, so the fins are saying that a bad head gasket can cause that? I always just thought it was a lifter. On 3/4/2011 6:42 AM, Max Dillon wrote: Alex, have you

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-07 Thread Luther's Benz
: Benz Hogs lt;benz-n-h...@gulseth.netgt; To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 5:32:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix What about finding someone with a 603rodbender and offering to purchase their #22 head? This is what I

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, March 5, 2011 9:53:58 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix I have had cars with that sound, so the fins are saying that a bad head gasket can cause that? I always just thought it was a lifter. On 3/4/2011 6:42 AM, Max

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
to get a mechanic's stethoscope from Harbor Freight. -Max From: Alex Chamberlainapchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 2:15:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix On Thu, Mar 3

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-05 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
://picasaweb.google.com/olefejer/W124300TurboDieselUdskiftToppKning# -Max From: Alex Chamberlainapchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 2:15:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix On Thu

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Max Dillon
Good point! -Max From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 3:19:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix Just use a 1 heater hose (or some similar

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Max Dillon
PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix First, do you have good o-rings on the center bolt? If not, chances are you will have much less noise after you replace them. However, a new head gasket (and new head bolts) isn't a bad idea if you don't know when the last one was done

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Max Dillon
Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix First, do you have good o-rings on the center bolt? If not, chances are you will have much less noise after you replace them. However, a new head gasket (and new head bolts) isn't a bad idea if you don't know when the last one was done -- they DO leak, and a low

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Max Dillon
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 2:15:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: My '87 300TD has a valve tick that I want to fix. Max, is there any way you can post an audio file

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Max Dillon
is now the plan... -Max From: Rolf r...@winmutt.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 2:02:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix I lay good money on the head gasket. I and others have (had) the same

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Alex, have you watched the videos from the link that Rolf posted?  The first has noise exactly like my car. https://picasaweb.google.com/olefejer/W124300TurboDieselUdskiftToppKning# Thanks Max. In that video, are

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I just received the lab results from the latest engine oil sample: Sodium jumped from 5 ppm to 115 ppm, which the lab tech interpreted as Coolant additives are present.  The car does require infrequent topping off

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Max Dillon wrote: I just received the lab results from the latest engine oil sample: Sodium jumped from 5 ppm to 115 ppm, which the lab tech interpreted as Coolant additives are present. The car does require infrequent topping off of the coolant, so it looks as if pulling the head to replace

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Max Dillon
back to dino oil would immediately bring the noise back. -Max From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 9:22:07 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix On Fri, Mar

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Max Dillon
From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 9:26:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I just received the lab

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Max Dillon
Good idea - anything else I should do while I'm there? -Max From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 9:35:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix Max Dillon wrote: I

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Dieselhead
, 2011 9:26:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I just received the lab results from the latest engine oil sample: Sodium jumped from 5 ppm to 115 ppm, which the lab tech interpreted as Coolant

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Rolf
Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 9:26:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I just received the lab results from the latest engine oil sample: Sodium jumped from 5 ppm to 115

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Perhaps a 606 head gasket and careful application of Johnny Berryman's favorite gasket lube? http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Hylomar174;-Universal-Blue-Racing-Formula-Gasket-Dressing--Flange-Sealant-Permatex_7740008-P_N2132_T|GRP2132 Mitch. Rolf wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Craig
On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 11:17:58 -0500 Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: I compared the 606 to the 603 hg last night, the 606 def seems to be of different material. The Finns say its copper but without one in hand hg? def? copper? Please explain Craig

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Max Dillon
: Fri, March 4, 2011 12:37:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 11:17:58 -0500 Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: I compared the 606 to the 603 hg last night, the 606 def seems to be of different material. The Finns say its copper but without one in hand

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Benz Hogs
Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 9:26:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I just received the lab results from the latest engine oil sample: Sodium jumped from 5 ppm to 115

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Benz Hogs wrote: What about finding someone with a 603rodbender and offering to purchase their #22 head? This is what I did on eBay for my SDL. Came with injectors and chambers. It would be expensive if the proper prechambers were not included. Did you need to change injection lines too?

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Benz Hogs
Expensive w/o the prechambers, you are correct, but mine included chambers and injectors. The angle difference was not enough that I needed to change the injector lines, they remain the original '87 lines from the 14 head. Luther KB5QHUOak Park, IL '87 300SDL (312,xxx mi) '91 Dodge

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-04 Thread Rolf
From: Alex Chamberlainapchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 9:26:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 6:12 AM, Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I just received

[MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-03 Thread Max Dillon
Dieselvolk, My '87 300TD has a valve tick that I want to fix. I'd appreciate thoughts and input on what the problem is and how to fix it. History: I've only used Mobil 1 oil since purchasing the car about 50k miles ago, when it had about 284k miles It now has 334k miles. About 3 years ago

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-03 Thread Rolf
I lay good money on the head gasket. I and others have (had) the same problem. Check the video here : http://superturbodiesel.com/std/w124-300d-turbo-om603-ticking-noise-under-valve-t-2299.html The general recommendation from the FInns is to go with the 606 headgasket as a replacement, it

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-03 Thread Max Dillon
: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix I lay good money on the head gasket. I and others have (had) the same problem. Check the video here : http://superturbodiesel.com/std/w124-300d-turbo-om603-ticking-noise-under-valve-t-2299.html The general recommendation from the FInns is to go

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: My '87 300TD has a valve tick that I want to fix. Max, is there any way you can post an audio file to the list? My 603 car has occasionally made clicky noises that seem to be coming from the vicinity of the valve

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-03 Thread Rolf
Is the list running slow? I responded in an email On 03/03/2011 02:15 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Max Dillonmeadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: My '87 300TD has a valve tick that I want to fix. Max, is there any way you can post an audio file to the list?

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-03 Thread Max Dillon
. -Max From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 2:15:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Just use a 1 heater hose (or some similar size) long enough to go to the spot and your ear. --R On 3/3/2011 2:38 PM, Max Dillon wrote: When my tick was quiet, no one but I could hear it. I need to get a mechanic's stethoscope from Harbor Freight. -Max

Re: [MBZ] OM603 Valve Tick Diagnoses and Fix

2011-03-03 Thread Peter Frederick
First, do you have good o-rings on the center bolt? If not, chances are you will have much less noise after you replace them. However, a new head gasket (and new head bolts) isn't a bad idea if you don't know when the last one was done -- they DO leak, and a low compression injector knock