Rich Thomas wrote:
Peruse that web site to learn what can be retrieved from the vehicle
computer (certain ones, looks like Bosch systems, for this particular
set of products). I am sure each manufacturer has it's own ability to
retrieve data (I recall with the Toyotas it took some factory peop
Peruse that web site to learn what can be retrieved from the vehicle
computer (certain ones, looks like Bosch systems, for this particular
set of products). I am sure each manufacturer has it's own ability to
retrieve data (I recall with the Toyotas it took some factory people to
come with a l
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
> http://www.cdr-system.com/resources/training.html#analyst
>
>
Allan wrote:
> "Not sure what that has to do with my comment..."
I think Rich's point is that if you can pay to take a class to learn how to
Not sure what that has to do with my comment...
Here's a link more to the point:
http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/toyota-clarifies-the-facts-about-155086.aspx
Looks like my impression was mistaken; the data recorders are primarily
there to record crash data.
What sounds a little fishy is thi
http://www.cdr-system.com/resources/training.html#analyst
On 7/14/2010 8:25 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
I think I recall reading that the data recorder unit is more or less
autonomous, but it was NEVER intended to be used for post-crash
forensics e.g. like an airliner flight data recorder. It was p
I think I recall reading that the data recorder unit is more or less
autonomous, but it was NEVER intended to be used for post-crash
forensics e.g. like an airliner flight data recorder. It was put there
more there to help Toyota diagnose maintenance and reliability issues
over time.
I don't reca
Of course, the data is suspect if it's being recorded by a computer
that is the subject of inquiry. After all, if the brake lights
aren't run by a simple switch, but operated by the computer like the
ignition, they wouldn't be on, would they?
The data should only be used for this inquiry i
Ya think?
--R
On 7/13/2010 11:07 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703834604575364871534435744.html
Looks like maybe the problem really was drivers standing on the
accelerator instead of the brake.
Allan
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Allan Streib wrote:
I'm guessing there may be some cases of real throttle malfunction, which when
reported drew out a lot of other claims from people who simply mixed up the gas
and the brake pedal.
Do these Toyotas have their pedals arranged to the left of the expected
positions, like the
press on the brake gently... She realized her
> mistake and was sheepish.
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:13:44 -0400
> From: Allan Streib
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Data recorders suggest drivers at fault in
> Toyota cras
Curt Raymond wrote:
What we need is a case where the data recorder says the brakes weren't applied
and the skid marks say they were.
How many of these cars have drive-by-wire brakes, besides the hybrids?
I'm used to ABS. If ABS kills the brakes on me, I can kill the ABS by shutting
off the
ot OFF the gas and press on
the brake gently... She realized her mistake and was sheepish.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 23:13:44 -0400
From: Allan Streib
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Data recorders suggest drivers at fault in
Toyota crashes
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I thought the problem was the computer getting the idea the throttle
was floored when it really was not. I'm not sure how the data recorder
would dispel that notion if it says that the computer did indeed think
the pedal was floored.
Hey, I'm honest. Just ask me, I'll tell you.
I do my own au
Mitch Haley writes:
> I thought the problem was the computer getting the idea the throttle
> was floored when it really was not. I'm not sure how the data recorder
> would dispel that notion if it says that the computer did indeed think
> the pedal was floored.
The data recorder also showed the
Allan Streib wrote:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703834604575364871534435744.html
Looks like maybe the problem really was drivers standing on the
accelerator instead of the brake.
I thought the problem was the computer getting the idea the throttle was floored
when it really
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703834604575364871534435744.html
Looks like maybe the problem really was drivers standing on the
accelerator instead of the brake.
Allan
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