Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-03 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes writes: > Back in March I heard they were paying $400 an hour. > Was that wrong, or was that not for working on the NJ State Gov contract? For goodness sake, COBOL is a simple programming language. My first job out of college was with a big consulting firm in Chica

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-03 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Mitchell wrote: > Back in March I heard they were paying $400 an hour. > Was that wrong, or was that not for working on the NJ State Gov > contract? Mitch. Don't know. When the plea went out "NJ needs COBOL programmers!" I looked long enough and deep enough to see they were asking for voluntee

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-03 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
And 240Ds Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 3, 2020, at 10:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Wife is a former COBOL programmer from years (40?) ago. She’s in the midst > of a project converting systems over from COBOL environment. Lots of > resistance from the owners (COBOL people) eve

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-03 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Wife is a former COBOL programmer from years (40?) ago. She’s in the midst of a project converting systems over from COBOL environment. Lots of resistance from the owners (COBOL people) even though most of them are on their way out the door for retirement. Atomic attack? COBOL and cockroaches.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-03 Thread Mitchell Haley EA via Mercedes
Back in March I heard they were paying $400 an hour. Was that wrong, or was that not for working on the NJ State Gov contract? Mitch. On Wed, June 3, 2020 11:43 am, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: >> They only wanted folks who would work for free. I checked. >> > > Ah, the old "You're not worth ke

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> They only wanted folks who would work for free. I checked. Ah, the old "You're not worth keeping around. Even though it turns out we need you desperately, you're still not worth paying." Umm, no, thanks? Maybe it's a Jersey thing. I think I'll stick with the theme park! (Also, I never le

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Really? Ugh... I was listening to the "Retro Computing Round Table" last night. This topic came up and they espoused that its not the systems themselves being bad that's the problem its that the people tasked with maintaining them were laid off years ago. Those systems have run for decades basi

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-03 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Curt wrote: > Are you going to get a job working in COBOL for the state of > New Jersey? ;) -Curt They only wanted folks who would work for free. I checked. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscri

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-03 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Are you going to get a job working in COBOL for the state of New Jersey? ;) Let's see, COBOL in a chemical dump, or Pascal in a theme park... Decisions, decisions! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Are you going to get a job working in COBOL for the state of New Jersey? ;) -Curt On Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 11:56:42 PM EDT, Jim Cathey wrote: > ...with my old TI99/4A. I bet I'm the only guy here, or nearly anywhere, who has programmed the 9900 processor (in assembly language) _not_

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I still have my Atari 1027 daisy wheel printer. Sadly the wheel has crumbled into nothing. Theres a guy who made a 3d printer file that can create a replacement but apparently 3d silicone prints aren't there yet with the required resolution. I'll give it a couple more years. I vividly remember

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> ...with my old TI99/4A. I bet I'm the only guy here, or nearly anywhere, who has programmed the 9900 processor (in assembly language) _not_ using that TI machine! We had one of their development systems in school. I also got a year on that 029 keypunch. I used it for FORTRAN and Pascal. Green

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-02 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I remember printing my dissertation chapters on a daisy wheel printer. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Tue, Jun 2, 2020, 4:48 PM Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I remember those days, had to decide if I wanted to buy a computer to do > my thesis or buy a good typew

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-02 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Heathkit H89 all in one, 5MHz 8080, came with GI Bill class. I don't count the Sinclair 2000. On Tue, Jun 2, 2020, 16:48 Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I remember those days, had to decide if I wanted to buy a computer to do > my thesis or buy a good typewriter t

Re: [MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-02 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I remember those days, had to decide if I wanted to buy a computer to do my thesis or buy a good typewriter to do it, about the same cost (or rough it and pay a typist). My first was an Apple II clone (Laser was the brand, I think) with two 5.25" floppy drives. Had that for a few years and swa

[MBZ] OT: Dichotomy

2020-06-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Last night I spent some time on the heatwave BBS with my old TI99/4A. Its pretty crazy connecting a 43 year old computer to a BBS that (at least purportedly) running on a similar vintage computer. I played a couple door games, good fun. Today I created 6 VMs in Microsoft Azure for my students to