We tried SLC drives here for drives in a database server, results were FAR LESS
robust than a spinning disk. Databases ruin SSDs by constant flipping of bits.
-Curt
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 23:45:45 -0600
From: Craig
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB
Messa
Allan Streib wrote:
As a curious side effect, you cannot "secure delete" a file on an SSD by
overwriting its contents with random bits before deleting, as the won't be written in the
same place as the original!
On an individual file level, yes, but there's a Secure Erase function that wipes
On Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:30 PM, "Jim Cathey"
wrote:
> A company I worked for, for 'reliability', switched from rotating
> media to flash media, on a BSD platform. No other changes were made.
> The reliability went _way_ down! You need a filesystem, and possibly
> operating system, tha
But what about the few cells an operating system writes over and over,
many times each day? How many bytes is that 100 GB of writes per day
to,
the whole solid-state disk, or a smaller subset?
The 'drive' devices all supposedly contain wear-leveling mechanisms.
I'm unsure of the quality thereo
Craig wrote:
But what about the few cells an operating system writes over and over,
many times each day? How many bytes is that 100 GB of writes per day to,
the whole solid-state disk, or a smaller subset?
The O/S doesn't get to decide, it's handled by the drive's internal controller.
It's spr
On Fri, 30 Sep 2011 00:30:29 -0400 Rolf wrote:
> Everything has a finite life. The longevity of a SSD in a laptop over a
> HD is going to be greater for one single reason. Vibration/shock. A SLC
SLC = Single Level Cell, one bit per memory cell
MLC = Multi Level Cell, more than one bit per memor
Everything has a finite life. The longevity of a SSD in a laptop over a
HD is going to be greater for one single reason. Vibration/shock. A SLC
drive will take 10 writes per sector. Intel guarantees their SSD's
for 5 years at 100GB of writes per day. Even at 10gb per day, the hdd
will outla
I am still skeptical if SSDs, in that they have a finite life, so I am
wondering how that is going to translate out for longevity...
A company I worked for, for 'reliability', switched from rotating
media to flash media, on a BSD platform. No other changes were made.
The reliability went _way_
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Alex Chamberlain
wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Rich Thomas
> wrote:
>> http://www.newegg.com/special/shellshocker.aspx?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL092911&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL092911-_-EMC-092911-Index-_-MECH-_-ShellShocker-EB2B
>>
>
> There you go. That one will wo
..
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:48:22 -0400
> From: Allan Streib
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB
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> Curt Raymond writes:
>
>> I'm
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Rich Thomas
wrote:
> http://www.newegg.com/special/shellshocker.aspx?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL092911&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL092911-_-EMC-092911-Index-_-MECH-_-ShellShocker-EB2B
>
There you go. That one will work great. Add $50 for RAM and you are
still under $100 for an overa
http://www.newegg.com/special/shellshocker.aspx?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL092911&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL092911-_-EMC-092911-Index-_-MECH-_-ShellShocker-EB2B
On 9/29/11 12:37 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
On Sep 29, 2011 7:51 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote:
After that, I would move to a
faster hard drive, however, unles
On Sep 29, 2011 7:51 AM, "Dan Penoff" wrote:
>
> After that, I would move to a
>faster hard drive, however, unless
>he's doing work that is disk intensive,
> he's not going to see a significant
> performance gain from this.
>
I've got to strongly disagree with Dan here. OS X, like all Unix-y
op
Realizing not all SSDs are created equal, my experience with one in a late 2010
Mac Mini was revolutionary. App launches are instantaneous. E-mail and web
pages load 'right now!' It made me realize how much time I had wasted waiting
for things to happen. If it died tomorrow I would consider it m
You may get longer battery life from the 1 GB stick.. if it cuts down on
paging to disk.
A newer hard drive (or SSD) will improve performance of disk intensive
operations such as booting, etc.
I noticed an improvement when upgrading my MBP from a 160GB 7200RPM drive to
a 500GB 7200RPM drive.
Hav
If you're looking for more battery life, an SSD would definitely help. I don't
think you'll see a significant performance gain, however.
I am still skeptical if SSDs, in that they have a finite life, so I am
wondering how that is going to translate out for longevity...
Dan
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I will be upgrading the RAM. A 1GB stick from OWC is only $36, with
some (although probably not much) credit available for returning the old
stick, so it hardly makes sense not to.
What I would be after in the SSD are some additional speed gains, also
lower power consumption/longer battery life.
resolution video I just don't accept that the drive is the weak link. Sure
>> SSDs are faster but in a lot of cases whats already there is fast enough.
>>
>> Now are they quieter? Sure and that can be an important factor, like in
>> home theater PCs...
>>
&
important factor, like in
> home theater PCs...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:48:22 -0400
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-Curt
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:48:22 -0400
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Curt Raymond writes:
> I'm hip, thats why I suggested RAM, how much RAM in it?
I think th
Curt Raymond writes:
> I'm hip, thats why I suggested RAM, how much RAM in it?
I think the 12" PB take one stick, and there's a 512MB in there now. I
could replace that with a 1GB stick that would be the limit.
> RAM is almost always the big bang for your buck upgrade. Hard drives
> (other tha
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But I don't want to spend $1,000+ on a computer just to surf the web and read
ema
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
> But I don't want to spend $1,000+ on a computer just to surf the
> web and read email and edit documents.
>
> I'm not unhappy with the computer now, I just thought for a few
> $100 I might give it a bit more zip.
I think you will get more ba
But I don't want to spend $1,000+ on a computer just to surf the web and read
email and edit documents.
I'm not unhappy with the computer now, I just thought for a few $100 I might
give it a bit more zip.
On Wednesday, September 28, 2011 12:20 PM, "Curt Raymond"
wrote:
> Considering the age o
bject: [MBZ] OT: SSD in Apple 12" PB
Thinking of replacing the hard drive in my 12" PowerBook with an SSD.
Should give me better performance and hopefully longer battery life.
Is this feasible? Anyone know if SSDs are made with a compatible interface?
M
Allan Streib wrote:
I think SSDs are still a component where YGWYPF. If you cheap out you get slow
performance and lower reliability.
There aren't that many controller and memory chip makers out there, and firmware
differences are usually pretty minor. I think the important part is whether t
I think SSDs are still a component where YGWYPF. If you cheap out you get slow
performance and lower reliability. The OWC drive had a good review here:
http://www.storagereview.com/owc_mercury_extreme_pro_ssd_review_120gb
... though I don't know how much a review like that can evaluate longe
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Thinking of replacing the hard drive in my 12" PowerBook with an S
I used to be a fan of MacAlly, but after a couple of their external drive
housings I bought had their interfaces fail, I have gone elsewhere.
Even though they were out of warranty, I went to them to make them aware that I
had several related failures.
They didn't seem the slightest bit interest
On Sep 27, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Allan Streib wrote:
>
>> When I swapped my mini's optical drive for an SSD I used an earlier
>> version of this: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/U3NVSPATA/
>
> Thanks. OWS sales support was pointing me towards
> http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Macally/PHR250
Carbon Copy Cloner, as someone else already suggested.
Or you could do the target disk mode if you have another Mac and just make a
disk image of it
MacDan
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On Sep 27, 2011, at 10:44 AM, "Allan Streib" wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:38 AM, "Mitch Haley"
>
On Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:53 AM, w123wa...@gmail.com wrote:
> When I swapped my mini's optical drive for an SSD I used an earlier
> version of this: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/U3NVSPATA/
Thanks. OWS sales support was pointing me towards
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Macally
When I swapped my mini's optical drive for an SSD I used an earlier version of
this:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/U3NVSPATA/
There are cheaper versions from other manufacturer's which do the same thing, I
believe. I've used it more than I thought I would. Good for testing old drives
I was going to suggest OWC
You will definitely benefit from longer battery life, however, you have a
bottleneck with the PATA/EIDE bus in your hardware that will negate some (not
all) of the speed gains.
MacDan
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On Sep 27, 2011, at 10:34 AM, "Allan Streib" wrote:
> Hm
I wouldn't dd unless the drives were the same specifications. You could use
Super Duper or Carbon Copy Cloner to make the copy to an external FireWire
drive. You can then boot off the FireWire drive to make sure the copy
worked. Once you know its good, swap the drives.
Brian
On Tue, Sep 27, 2
On Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:38 AM, "Mitch Haley" wrote:
> How in the world are you supposed to get speeds approaching the limits of
> SATA-2
> through an IDE-PATA interface?
> Is your PB so old that it's IDE?
Yeah it's pretty old, a G4 processor.
Still does what I need it to do though.
What are your storage needs and what is the transfer speed of the ATA/PATA
interface in the PB. Max is 133MB/s which is faster than most mechanical
laptop drives. Upgrading your existing hard drive to another mechanical one
may be the most cost effective. Depends on what you're using the laptop
Allan Streib wrote:
Hm looks like some googling would have been in order first...
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Mercury_Legacy_Pro
How in the world are you supposed to get speeds approaching the limits of SATA-2
through an IDE-PATA interface?
Is your PB so old that it's IDE?
Allan Streib wrote:
Thinking of replacing the hard drive in my 12" PowerBook with an SSD. Should
give me better performance and hopefully longer battery life.
Is this feasible? Anyone know if SSDs are made with a compatible interface?
Most I've seen are SATA.
All I've seen were SATA-II or
Hm looks like some googling would have been in order first...
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Mercury_Legacy_Pro
On Tuesday, September 27, 2011 10:25 AM, "Allan Streib"
wrote:
> Thinking of replacing the hard drive in my 12" PowerBook with an SSD. Should
> give me better performance
Thinking of replacing the hard drive in my 12" PowerBook with an SSD. Should
give me better performance and hopefully longer battery life.
Is this feasible? Anyone know if SSDs are made with a compatible interface?
Most I've seen are SATA.
Allan
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