Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
The main water shutoff valve in my basement is a ball valve (PVC) and it does leak if it's in any position other than fully open or fully closed. Replacing it would mean shutting off the water at the meter, so I have not bothered with it. I just bring a towel with me if I ever need to shut off

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I don't seem able to find decent ball valves anymore. I find that after a while, if they are opened and closed, they leak slightly. I have gone back to using the old style valves with the rubber (plastic?) sealing washer that can be replaced. Randy On 12/10/2021 2:51 PM, dan penoff.com via

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Any time I replace a water heater, a set of copper fittings along with a ball valve replace the cheap plastic drain valve the manufacturer supplied. It gets flushed annually (or more) and by using a full flow ball valve a lot of the cruft gets flushed out easily - and quickly! -D > On Oct

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, at 1:38 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: > Also, if someone "tests" the P-T safety valve by manually "burping" it, there > is a chance of suspended solids getting stuck on the valve's sealing surfaces > (causing a dripping leak). Yep, BTDT. I only suggested it as it's

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
, October 12, 2021 11:04 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters Seems unlikely to me that the original one and a replacement one would fail that quick. Old water heater was there 15 years and never had a valve fail. I wonder if it’s not shutting off

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
al Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 11:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Kaleb Striplin Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters From what was described to me it sounds like a steady stream, but not sure yet. Sent from my iPhon

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Run a google search on the mfr. and model # to see if there are any recalls or lemon alerts. On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 12:03 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > What Grant and Scott said ... > > On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 10:31 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > From

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
What Grant and Scott said ... On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 10:31 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > From what was described to me it sounds like a steady stream, but not sure > yet. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 12, 2021, at 10:22 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < >

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
From what was described to me it sounds like a steady stream, but not sure yet. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 12, 2021, at 10:22 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > IMO if the water is getting hot enough to open the relief valve the tenant > would notice it, being scalded in the

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
IMO if the water is getting hot enough to open the relief valve the tenant would notice it, being scalded in the shower or washing dishes. Is it a slow trickle leak from the valve or is it periodically opening and letting out a blast of hot water? If a slow leak, might try operating the valve

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
That’s what I am thinking Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 12, 2021, at 9:53 AM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > It makes me think there is a temp control issue with that heater. > Take your laser digital temp device [everyone has one now, right?] and take > the actual water temp of the water

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Or does the renter have a mischievous (aka asshole) kid with a torch... Maybe like that asshat arsonist kid here a few years ago, that was mad that his parents moved here, and was taking it out on the community. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Seems unlikely to me that the original one and a replacement one would fail that quick. Old water heater was there 15 years and never had a valve fail. I wonder if it’s not shutting off when it should and heats the water too hot. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 12, 2021, at 9:42 AM, Jim Cathey

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2021-10-12 10:41, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Makes me think something is actually wrong with the tank... Makes me think something is wrong with the Chinese (?) factory that made a whole bad batch of POS pressure valves... It's a Temperature and Pressure Valve, right? What if the

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
It makes me think there is a temp control issue with that heater. Take your laser digital temp device [everyone has one now, right?] and take the actual water temp of the water coming out at the leak I'll bet you have a steam heater instead of a water heater and the temp control is having

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Makes me think something is actually wrong with the tank... Makes me think something is wrong with the Chinese (?) factory that made a whole bad batch of POS pressure valves... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-12 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Maybe one of the thermostats sticks? -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 9:24 PM To: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Cc: Kaleb Striplin Subject: [MBZ] OT water heaters At the rental, in 2019 we replaced the hot water tank

[MBZ] OT water heaters

2021-10-11 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
At the rental, in 2019 we replaced the hot water tank with a unit from Lowes.  After a few months the renter reported water leak, it was basically the pressure valve was open and venting.  Since it had been leaking we had to get a plumber out to replace the valve out of pocket rather than