Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-26 Thread Scott Ritchey
: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 11:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle. Ship the pump to www,Conestoga diesel.com and ask Mel to run it on his test bench

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-26 Thread G Mann
Ship the pump to www,Conestoga diesel.com and ask Mel to run it on his test bench. You will know in a short while and for a minimum cost what the pump is doing. A properly calibrated test bench is the proper way to test the pump. Then you have the "whole story". Grant... On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-26 Thread Richard Hattaway
in it. From: Michael Esh To: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle. Imagine this: Advanced Diesel Systems Inc Be the first to review (231) 893-3306 9790 US Highw

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-26 Thread Mike Esh
Thanks Mitch. That is how I understood it. How far out of time can the injection pump be on one of these diesels and still start and idle well? It also ran down the road although poorly and without power. The mechanic had the vehicle running with each pump and diligently followed my sug

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-24 Thread Dieselhead
Richard Hattaway wrote: I cannot imagine a shop saying that an injection pump timing check would be prohibitively expensive. I think Mike said a Bosch shop told him a bench test was too expensive just to prove a suspect pump needed a rebuild. Mitch. Before a bench test, a simple test of tu

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-24 Thread Mitch Haley
On Aug 24, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Richard Hattaway wrote I cannot imagine a shop saying that an injection pump timing check would be prohibitively expensive. It's actually a very educational test to do, and at least some of us have 'homebrew' drip tubes laying around to do it with. Not hard at all

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-24 Thread Michael Esh
counts. Question: was there ever a real injection timing check on >> either of the "bad" used replacement IPs? >> >> Scott >> >> -Original Message----- >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike > Esh >> Sent: Frid

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Richard Hattaway wrote: I cannot imagine a shop saying that an injection pump timing check would be prohibitively expensive. I think Mike said a Bosch shop told him a bench test was too expensive just to prove a suspect pump needed a rebuild. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-24 Thread Richard Hattaway
- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 8:54 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Amy Renouf; brandonren...@mac.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping > at idl

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-24 Thread Mike Esh
Saturday, August 24, 2013 1:44 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping > at idle. > > If you mean taking them to an authorized Bosch shop, then no. I tried this > at our local Bosch shop and he said the cost

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
-Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 1:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle. If you mean taking them to an authorized

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-23 Thread Mike Esh
un...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 8:54 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Amy Renouf; brandonren...@mac.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping > at idle. > > Time to celebrate! My 84 300

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-23 Thread Mike Esh
e "bad" used replacement IPs? > > Scott > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 8:54 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Amy Renouf; brandonren...@mac.com > Subject: R

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-23 Thread Scott Ritchey
lf Of Mike Esh Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 8:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Amy Renouf; brandonren...@mac.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle. Time to celebrate!  My 84 300D is back on the road.  For those who did not follow the story,

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-23 Thread Mike Esh
Apology accepted, although I still have a bit of doubt in my mind as to his knowledge of my Mercedes. I do appreciate his patience with me and my used pumps. Most mechanics would have given up and sent me on my way after the 2nd pump did not work. Michael E. Esh 231-286-2344 On Aug 23, 2013,

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Or coincidentally he gets it right when you buy his pump, hmmm Sent from my iPhone On Aug 23, 2013, at 10:03 PM, OK Don wrote: > I should offer my appologies to your mechanic - I was sure that he was > installing the pumos 180 degrees ouf of time, glad to hear that he knows > hwat he's doing an

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-23 Thread OK Don
I should offer my appologies to your mechanic - I was sure that he was installing the pumos 180 degrees ouf of time, glad to hear that he knows hwat he's doing and that you got it running again! - OK Don "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither li

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-23 Thread Mike Esh
The original had over 300,000 miles on it. I am not sure of the mileage on the one from Mitch. The other had at least 250,000 on it. Both of them sat around for at least 2 years. I heard that will destroy them. It is best to find one still attached to the engine. With all lines still attached a

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-23 Thread Dieselhead
Congrats! strange that you got 3 bad pumps in a row. They don't wear out under normal use. perhaps you got others taken from WVO cars that ended up in the junkyards. Glad to know you got a good deal on the rebuilt pump. Time to celebrate! My 84 300D is back on the road. For those who d

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-23 Thread WILTON
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Mike Esh" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Amy Renouf" ; Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle. Time to celebrate!

Re: [MBZ] On the road again! 1984 300D - Was Black smoke and loping at idle.

2013-08-23 Thread Mike Esh
Time to celebrate!  My 84 300D is back on the road.  For those who did not follow the story, I had hard starting issues for the last 3 summers, yes, only in the summers.  Help from this list determined that my injection pump was wearing out.  The pump finally gave up completely and I picked up