Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-14 Thread Peter Frederick
You CAN get the chain it with the rail in place, but it's a real PITA. I dropped both ends while doing so, so I can't recommend it. Peter

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-14 Thread Desert Rat
PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hue wong > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:18 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d > > > Chilton!!! I curse you!!! ( just looked and both > my manuals are chiltons) >

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-14 Thread Potter, Tom E
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hue wong Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d Chilton!!! I curse you!!! ( just looked and both my manuals are chiltons) Rat bastards That st

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-14 Thread David Brodbeck
hue wong wrote: > I guess I didn't even know chiltons were that bad of > manuals!!! the things I don't know They're pretty sketchy, often leaving steps out. (I think they must have a trademark on the phrase "Installation is the reverse of removal.") They also contain a lot of generic stuff t

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-13 Thread hue wong
> Remember when you were pricing timing chains and > somebody told you not to cheap out and the get the > cheapest you could find? The same is true with > manuals... > > -Curt > > Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:18:06 -0700 (PDT) > From: hue wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-13 Thread Curt Raymond
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Chilton!!! I curse you!!! ( just looked and both my manuals are chiltons) Rat bas

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-13 Thread hue wong
Chilton!!! I curse you!!! ( just looked and both my manuals are chiltons) Rat bastards That step is missing in both books!! --- Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What? None of these cheap damb manuals mentioned > this > > in the procedures [EMAIL PROTECTED] i

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-13 Thread Jim Cathey
What? None of these cheap damb manuals mentioned this in the procedures [EMAIL PROTECTED] it! Step 3 in the '79 300D engine manual: "Remove tensioner" Step 1 in the 201 602 engine manual: "Remove tensioner" -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-13 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 4/12/2006 4:26:57 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So we just pulled the new timing chian from rusty through following the procedure outlined in the book(s) and darned it, it seems one link short. Now I'm all freaked out. Did I somehow miss a spro

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-13 Thread Richard Hattaway
Hue, Mathieu has the right approach to determining your present situation and effecting whatever cure you need. However, I have routinely changed several chains w/o removing the tensioner, found it simply not necessary. Unlike tensioners in other engines, mine were not ratcheted, but only spring

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-13 Thread Mathieu J . Cama
Hue, First off, pull the tensioner and see if you have enough slack to line up the chain. Next, I would install a temporary master link, the one with the circlips (make sure one of the clips doesn't fall into the motor), next reinstall the tensioner (you will likely have to reset the pin in t

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-13 Thread John Berryman
On Apr 12, 2006, at 7:26 PM, hue wong wrote: So we just pulled the new timing chian from rusty through following the procedure outlined in the book(s) and darned it, it seems one link short. Now I'm all freaked out. Did I somehow miss a sprocket in there? could it be the chain tensioner push

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-13 Thread l02turner
nnlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: "hue wong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Timin

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-13 Thread hue wong
well damb! So what would be your advice if this was tried with the tensioner in. I suspect I've done a doosy on this! lord Trial by fire, will make me a desiel mechanic yet! zoiks! --- Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hue wong wrote: > > So we just pulled the new timing

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-13 Thread Marshall Booth
hue wong wrote: So we just pulled the new timing chian from rusty through following the procedure outlined in the book(s) and darned it, it seems one link short. Now I'm all freaked out. Did I somehow miss a sprocket in there? could it be the chain tensioner pushing to hard? I'm completly at

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-13 Thread hue wong
What? None of these cheap damb manuals mentioned this in the procedures [EMAIL PROTECTED] it! So if I take the tensioner out and re-thread the chain, all will be well? how do I make sure everthing ins lined up? and not fear that I have one link of on a sprocket somewhere? --- Jim C

Re: [MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-12 Thread Jim Cathey
Now I'm all freaked out. Did I somehow miss a sprocket in there? could it be the chain tensioner pushing to hard? I'm completly at loss as to what to do next or how to correct this problem. The chain tensioner is supposed to be removed during the procedure. Take it out! -- Jim

[MBZ] Timing chain troubles on 300d

2006-04-12 Thread hue wong
So we just pulled the new timing chian from rusty through following the procedure outlined in the book(s) and darned it, it seems one link short. Now I'm all freaked out. Did I somehow miss a sprocket in there? could it be the chain tensioner pushing to hard? I'm completly at loss as to what to