Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Fmiser
Peter Hertzing wrote: ... they have had to replace trucks with automatic transmissions because they couldn't find drivers who could drive manual tranny's. I remmeber when the same thing happened to the bus line I was driving for. Sad day and definitly less quality drivers. Craig

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Max
A good driver will float all the up-shifts. -- Philip What does it mean to float an up-shift? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Max
Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/u-p-s-finds-a-substitute-for-diesel-natural-gas-at-260-degrees-below-zero/ That is good news, I think we'll see more and more LNG and CNG vehicles, which will pressure OPEC / Saudis to lower the price of

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Max
TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: LNG has always been a part of the UPS fleet, though in limited quantities and only in select areas (e.g. the Pleasantdale GA hub). Are any of these bi-fuel (LNG or #2 diesel)? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread TE
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas? TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: LNG has always been a part of the UPS fleet, though in limited quantities and only in select areas (e.g. the Pleasantdale GA hub). Are any of these bi-fuel (LNG or #2 diesel)? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Gerry Archer
On a Harley 74 on the old three lane road between Washington and Richmond, tried to pass a Greyhound. Got even with it but couldn't do it because the oil temperature got too high. This was in 1948. There were two of us on the bike. Might have done it with only one. Oh Lord, before I'm turned

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Rich Thomas
Ridin da dawg! --R On 4/25/12 9:00 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: On a Harley 74 on the old three lane road between Washington and Richmond, tried to pass a Greyhound. Got even with it but couldn't do it because the oil temperature got too high. This was in 1948. There were two of us on the bike.

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
UPS trucks do a lot of slow, stop and go, city driving. Diesel might not be the best choice. Also the difference in the per-gallon price between diesel and gasoline is getting pretty large, and diesel engines are more expensive initially. UPS don't keep their trucks long enough for longevity

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012, at 07:50 PM, Craig wrote: I recall the fellow who drove the Inglewood City Lines bus I took to and from high school. An old diesel with a 4-speed, non-synchro transmission. He had to double-clutch every shift and did a very good job of it. When I was a kid my school bus

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012, at 11:09 AM, TE wrote: UPS destroys their package cars when they are retired from service. First, the package car is stripped of its badging, decals, etc. Next it is painted white, crushed to pieces and photographed. Really? I had no idea. Why is that? Doesn't seem to

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Rick Knoble
On Apr 25, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: UPS don't keep their trucks long enough for longevity to be a factor. They sell them off after a couple of years. No. Some package cars are quite old. Also, as Tarek (sp) stated earlier, the retired package cars are

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Rich Thomas
A buddy of mine worked with UPS many years ago to help design an engine for the kind of driving the cars (the guy who started UPS insisted on this terminology, and I think it was a firing offense to refer to them otherwise) did, back after the initial fuel shortage in Jimmy Cahtah days.

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Apr 25, 2012, at 9:35 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: UPS don't keep their trucks long enough for longevity to be a factor. They sell them off after a couple of years. No. Some package cars are quite old. Also,

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote: I don't see how selling the cars could create liability, once a vehicle is sold the prior owner is no longer liable I would not think. Unless the prior owner designed said vehicle, then he'd be on the hook for any product liability concerns. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Allan Streib
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Allan Streib wrote: I don't see how selling the cars could create liability, once a vehicle is sold the prior owner is no longer liable I would not think. Unless the prior owner designed said vehicle, then he'd be on the hook for

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread Dan Penoff
Some years ago I seem to recall my driver showing me an inline 6 that was fuel injected in his car. I believe he said something about it being able to burn a wide range of fuels. Dan On Apr 25, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: A buddy of mine worked

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-25 Thread OK Don
I used to drive my 1951 VW manual, no synchro at all, with no clutch - match the engine speed when down shifting just as if you'd double clutched, but with more accuracy, or crunch. Granted, the power used ws considerably less (25hp when new). On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Fmiser

[MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-24 Thread WILTON
#2 son was at UPS warehouse coupla hours ago; new UPS gas driven truck sitting there; son asked them why a new gas-driven truck 'stead of the usual Diesel. UPS guy told 'im, Yep, switching to gas driven trucks. BTW, son's '07 R320 CDI has 206 kmi on it now. Wilton '87 300D (126 kmi) '91

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-24 Thread TE
UPS has always had both gas and diesel trucks. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:39 AM To: mercedes list Subject: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas? #2 son was at UPS warehouse coupla

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-24 Thread Brian Toscano
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 7:39 AM To: mercedes list Subject: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas? #2 son was at UPS warehouse coupla hours ago; new UPS gas driven truck sitting there; son asked them why a new gas-driven truck 'stead

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-24 Thread TE
...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 8:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas? http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/u-p-s-finds-a-substitute-for-diese l-natural-gas-at-260-degrees-below

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-24 Thread Peter Hertzing
: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas? http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/02/22/u-p-s-finds-a-substitute-for-diese l-natural-gas-at-260-degrees-below-zero/ On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:01 PM, TE ban...@nc.rr.com wrote: UPS has always had both gas and diesel trucks. -Original Message- From

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-24 Thread Craig
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:33:23 -0500 Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: ... they have had to replace trucks with automatic transmissions because they couldn't find drivers who could drive manual tranny's. I remmeber when the same thing happened to the bus line I was driving for. Sad

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-24 Thread Peter Hertzing
nothing makes you feel as good as an old spicer 4 or 5 speed with an 6 or 8v71 behind you. When you get it down its like butter. On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:50 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:33:23 -0500 Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: ... they have

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Hertzing wrote: nothing makes you feel as good as an old spicer 4 or 5 speed with an 6 or 8v71 behind you. When you get it down its like butter. The only package car I looked under the hood of (1995 vintage) had a Spicer 5 speed and a Cummins 6BT with P7100 inline pump. At the time,

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-24 Thread Dieselhead
one of these day's I wanna run the wheels right off... a greyhound bus... I think that is Red Sovine isn't it? The oldtime truckdriver's lament. Back when men were men, and the US dominated the world. NO whiny wusses like we have now. nothing makes you feel as good as an old spicer 4 or

Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas?

2012-04-24 Thread TE
: Re: [MBZ] UPS Diesel or gas? Peter Hertzing wrote: nothing makes you feel as good as an old spicer 4 or 5 speed with an 6 or 8v71 behind you. When you get it down its like butter. The only package car I looked under the hood of (1995 vintage) had a Spicer 5 speed and a Cummins 6BT with P7100