[MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-17 Thread Levi Smith
OK, so I haven't yet decided on whether I'm going to attempt the valve adjustment on my 83' 300D myself or hope I can find someone who knows what they're doing. If I decide to go that route, it sounds further complicated since from what I recall the engine is supposed to be cold as in "let to

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-17 Thread Luther Gulseth
I've only owned my MB for 2 years now, but I've done at least 5 valve adjust, and it's a fairly straight forward job. For the order, do the valves first and then diesel purge and change your filters. The main spinon filter has a suggested interval of 15kmi, so it can be changed the same time y

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-17 Thread Jim Cathey
the references. Where's the best/cheapest place to get the valve adjustment tools? Or wouldn't I really need them? Supposedly it can be done without, but it's rather painful. I made my own out of long 14mm wrenches from the pawnshop and a torch. Don't start with flimsy ones as the bends you

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-17 Thread Jim Cathey
Who learned valve adjustment on a 1939 Chevrolet Coupe. 60 Falcon for me. As I recall, several times I did it while the engine was idling. I don't really recommend this method! (On that pushrod engine it was neither dangerous nor very messy, but it's not very easy and is kind of hard on the to

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-17 Thread Potter, Tom E
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:32 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc. > Who learned valve adjustment on a 1939 Chevrolet Coupe. 60 Falcon for

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-17 Thread Potter, Tom E
Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc. > the references. Where's the best/cheapest place to get the valve > adjustment tools? Or wouldn't I really need t

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-17 Thread Bob Rentfro
Tom offered: "Valve adjustment is an art as much as a science. Remember, you use "feeler" gauges. You have to learn the proper "feel" of the gauge at the correct adjustment. That said; the only way to learn is to do it several times. I suggest you get someone who has done it before to guide you t

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-17 Thread Rich Thomas
On the wrenches, the other writer was correct. Get some cheap open-end wrenches (14 or 15mm? I think), put the open end in a vise, heat it with a torch about 1 inch above the working part, bend it 45 deg, then heat it again about 2 in beyond that and bend it back the other way so it is paralle

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-17 Thread Rich Thomas
il we establish a more solid relationship. Tom Potter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:28 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-17 Thread Sunil Hari
ED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey > >Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 9:28 AM > >To: Mercedes Discussion List > >Subject: Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, > >etc. > > > > > > > >>the reference

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-17 Thread OK Don
'51 VW 1100cc engine for me -- cold and stopped. The only valves I've adjusted while the engine was running were new hydraulic tappets on a Chevy or Ford - can't remember which - you turned till they stopped rattling. On 3/17/06, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Who learned valve adjustme

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-17 Thread OK Don
I've never bothered to get and bend a set of wrenches - I just use straight ones. Probably takes longer to mess around and get things lined up so you can use them, but it can be done. The feel part of using a feeler gauge is to have some resistance when pulling the gauge through the gap, but not s

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-17 Thread Levi Smith
OK, so how would one know when one needs to use a reamer? OK Don wrote: I don't remember what the dowel size was, and I only needed to use it once, on one glow plug. It was what I found lying around the fit. Most of the time you don't need it. On 3/17/06, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-17 Thread Marshall Booth
Levi Smith wrote: OK, so how would one know when one needs to use a reamer? If the old plug was stubborn about coming out (you had to wiggle it) then a reamer would be desirable. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EM

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-17 Thread Tom Scordato
: Friday, March 17, 2006 8:06 AM Subject: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc. OK, so I haven't yet decided on whether I'm going to attempt the valve adjustment on my 83' 300D myself or hope I can find someone who knows what they're doing. If I decide t

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-18 Thread David Brodbeck
Tom offered: "Valve adjustment is an art as much as a science. Remember, you use "feeler" gauges. You have to learn the proper "feel" of the gauge at the correct adjustment. That said; the only way to learn is to do it several times. I suggest you get someone who has done it before to guide you t

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-18 Thread David Brodbeck
OK Don wrote: The feel part of using a feeler gauge is to have some resistance when pulling the gauge through the gap, but not so much that it's changing the gap -- no resistance means that the gap is too wide. One thing I've found helpful, when I'm in doubt, is to do a go/no-go test. Try a g

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-18 Thread OK Don
The only time I needed one was when the new glow plug wouldn't go in --- On 3/17/06, Levi Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, so how would one know when one needs to use a reamer? > > > OK Don wrote: > > I don't remember what the dowel size was, and I only needed to use it > > once, on one glow

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-18 Thread redghost
Reamer is very important. The carbon builds up and can interfere with the GP doing its job. The plug will cook and short out much sooner if the crud is not removed at each change of GP. Paid $600 to have all the crud removed in the e300d because the last guy to install GP #5 did not, and i

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-18 Thread Marshall Booth
redghost wrote: Reamer is very important. The carbon builds up and can interfere with the GP doing its job. The plug will cook and short out much sooner if the crud is not removed at each change of GP. Paid $600 to have all the crud removed in the e300d because the last guy to install GP #5

Re: [MBZ] Valve Adjustment, Tools, Timing chain, Diesel Purge, etc.

2006-03-19 Thread redghost
Well that is what I am going to do with that nasty 606 from now on. Might give Gump a ream, just for grins when her GP change around 300k. On Friday, March 17, 2006, at 07:12 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: redghost wrote: Reamer is very important. The carbon builds up and can interfere with the