Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-29 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Isn't it amazing to see how fuel economy has become the big story lately? Its always the New 30mpg super-whatever now rather than the 3000hp super-whatever that it was 2 years ago. I think that the new hybrids/electric/whatevers helping push higher

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-29 Thread Curt Raymond
traffic. The transmission on the one I had had a wicked flair at each shift but I bet thats just a rental with 15,000 miles on it... -Curt Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 08:26:25 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-29 Thread Dan Penoff
:25 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner Message-ID: m1boohojni@156-56-179-237.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes: Isn't

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner with electric shock absorbers

2012-02-28 Thread Hendrik and Fay
I actually had a thought the other day, would it be possible to harness the energy that is produced by shock absorbers to charge the batteries? Hang on, already done and dusted http://www.technologyreview.in/energy/25274/ Hendrik who is always thinking On 27/02/12 08:39, Jim Cathey wrote: I

[MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread Gerry Archer
Gerry wrote: I sent the Fox News article to a friend who has owned a Volt for 3 or 4 months. This lady is a medical research tech and her husband is a microbiologist. Both are dedicated to extreme accuracy so I wouldn't question their math. This is her reply: Thanks for sending. When I read

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread G Mann
Well good for them but it's still wonky math. Ok.. so electric costs are .12 cents average Let's factor in the cars cost of $46.000 and divide that by the projected service life of the battery, plus battery replacement costs for service life of the car [got any idea how many miles

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread Dan Penoff
I have to agree with Grant. While I'm all for saving energy, the math these people use, even if accurate, still fails to take a lot of the upstream costs into account, especially the cost of generating the electricity necessary to charge the thing. I have to believe that if this is factored

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread Rick Knoble
On Feb 26, 2012, at 8:45 AM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I think the best place to put our development dollars is to raise the corporate CAFE standards. If Detroit is forced to develop more efficient cars, and I believe they can, electric vehicles won't stand a chance of being

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread Curt Raymond
: Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner Message-ID: cantulyi68cncwy6ksxnazq5t8g_7vj5p0plzdam1eq-oqah...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Well good for them but it's still wonky math. Ok.. so electric costs are .12 cents average Let's factor in the cars cost of $46.000

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread Curt Raymond
mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner Message-ID: 780f0312-9011-4283-b63d-2cf69f279...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I have to agree with Grant. While I'm all for saving energy, the math these people use, even if accurate, still fails to take a lot

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread OK Don
At this point, you don't buy a hybrid or electric car for save money. You do it because you want the exotic technology - the newest, latest thing. Yeah, you get to brag about high mileage, but need to acknowledge that it's smoke and mirrors, and that there is NO reduction in CO2 production. Most

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread Dan Penoff
:27 -0700 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner Message-ID: cantulyi68cncwy6ksxnazq5t8g_7vj5p0plzdam1eq-oqah...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Well good for them but it's still

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread OK Don
a Fiat 500 Abarth, then I looked up the specs and I really really want to test drive one... -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 09:45:45 -0500 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner Message-ID: 780f0312-9011-4283-b63d

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread Rich Thomas
Where can I get me summadat? --R On 2/26/12 1:42 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: If you get yourself a union suit and a hat with ear flaps you can even look like that old coot you used to make fun of.;) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner Message-ID: 780f0312-9011-4283-b63d-2cf69f279...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 I have to agree with Grant. While I'm all for saving energy, the math these people use, even if accurate

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread Curt Raymond
are politically positive... -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 11:58:30 -0800 (PST) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner Message-ID: 1330286310.10354.yext-apple-iph...@web113207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread OK Don
) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner Message-ID: 1330286310.10354.yext-apple-iph...@web113207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Please don't shoot me for saying

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey
Strangely its cheaper to refine oil here which has led the US to I doubt it. become a net exporter of gasoline which is what is driving our prices higher. Europe has a huge tax overhead on fuel. I think we're subsidizing other countries' government when we sell overseas. Those excess fuel

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread Jim Cathey
I think the serial hybrid, like a Diesel/electric locomotive, is the way to go - you get the effeciency of the electric drive train, and the freedom form the grid to travel cross country. I like the design of the Volt - they did a good job of managing the two poer sources. The recharger

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread G Mann
leave it to you to figure out which is which. Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 07:35:27 -0700 From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner Message-ID: cantulyi68cncwy6ksxnazq5t8g_7vj5p0plzdam1eq-oqah...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type

Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner

2012-02-26 Thread Peter Hertzing
a Fiat 500 Abarth, then I looked up the specs and I really really want to test drive one... -Curt Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 09:45:45 -0500 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt Owner Message-ID: 780f0312-9011-4283