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From: "Rich Thomas via Mercedes"
To:
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Copper light fixtures
Thanks, I appreciate that. Some LED lights arrived from China yesterday,
and more should be
Thanks, I appreciate that. Some LED lights arrived from China
yesterday, and more should be arriving soon. I need the sockets to
finish putting the lights together. I got all the power lines run and
the boxes installed, so once the sockets and bulbs all appear I can
finish them. I also purc
Rich, I woke up sometime during the night and realized I had not given you a
proper ATTABOY for your recent lighting project.
So here is a much-deserved and belated ATTABOY! for the project and another one
for its presentation to the list and posterity. I plan to read, peruse and
enjoy the pr
On Aug 30, 2012 2:02 PM, "Alex Chamberlain" wrote:
> They were NLA a few years ago but I think they're A again now. I had #6
That's great to know!
Everyone else wrote:
> Don't use copper!
Thanks guys, appreciate the resounding agreement. :)
Best,
Tim
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Length, material and diameter are extremely critical. Any variation from
one line to another will cause variation in injection timing. They must
all be exactly the same.
Mike
On Aug 30, 2012 1:12 PM, "Fmiser" wrote:
> > Tim C wrote:
>
> > Would copper tube work for the NLA hard lines on a 603?
On Aug 30, 2012 4:30 AM, "Tim C" wrote:
>
> Would copper tube work for the
>NLA hard lines on a 603?
They were NLA a few years ago but I think they're A again now. I had #6
break and had to have a replacement custom-made by a local diesel repair
shop a few years back, but then later Rusty was ab
> Tim C wrote:
> Would copper tube work for the NLA hard lines on a 603? Just
> curious, the lines aren't leaking yet...
By "hard lines", do you mean the lines between the injector pump
and the injector? NO!
Those injector lines are extremely thick-walled - the wall is
thicker than the diamete
Are you talking about the hard lines between the injection pump and the
injectors on a diesel? I thought the length and expansion properties of
those lines were critical to getting the injection "pop" to happen
correctly.
Allan
Randy Bennell writes:
> Must be someone out there that can make th
Must be someone out there that can make them.
Randy
On 30/08/2012 11:14 AM, Rick Knoble wrote:
On Aug 30, 2012, at 6:30 AM, "Tim C" wrote:
Would copper tube work for the NLA hard lines on a 603? Just curious, the
lines aren't leaking yet...
I would say, no. Too soft. Too prone to work ha
On Aug 30, 2012, at 6:30 AM, "Tim C" wrote:
> Would copper tube work for the NLA hard lines on a 603? Just curious, the
> lines aren't leaking yet...
I would say, no. Too soft. Too prone to work hardening. Not enough tensile
strength. As long as you have the steel lines properly clamped they
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>I seem to remember somebody mentioning having a copper fuel line
>break at one point. I don't remember if that person eve
On Aug 30, 2012 12:14 AM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> no bending tools for steel. I
Would copper tube work for the NLA hard lines on a 603? Just curious, the
lines aren't leaking yet...
Best,
-Tim
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Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> writes:
> no bending tools for steel. I thought about buying brake line, but i
> didn't think i could bend it without kinking. In the case of a
> tractor that might be used 10 hours a year, I probably have 40 to 60
> years use on the copper. the steel lasted 40,
Why would you not just replace steel with steel?
Mike
On Aug 29, 2012 10:59 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
no bending tools for steel. I thought about buying brake line, but i
didn't think i could bend it without kinking. In the case of a
tractor that might be used 10 hours a
Why would you not just replace steel with steel?
Mike
On Aug 29, 2012 10:59 PM, "Dieselhead" <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I seem to remember somebody mentioning having a copper fuel line break at
>> one point. I don't remember if that person ever admitted if they knew the
>> trick to making cop
I seem to remember somebody mentioning having a copper fuel line
break at one point. I don't remember if that person ever admitted if
they knew the trick to making copper survive as a fuel line (like in
a Model A or a farm tractor is to have a loop in it. The loop takes
up the vibration prevent
> I seem to remember somebody mentioning having a copper fuel line
> break at one point. I don't remember if that person ever admitted if they
> knew
> the trick to making copper survive as a fuel line (like in a Model A or a
> farm tractor is to have a loop in it. The loop takes up the vib
> Copper is a no-no for diesel, as it will break down and flake off
> after a few years of exposure...
>
It's also a no-no for connecting from a fixed source to something that
vibrates.
Boy, do I know about this.
RLE
>
>
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>> ...That's what I did for one of the hoses on the Hercules generator. I
>> think I used copper plumbing fittings, not brass...
> I don't know about fittings but using copper tubing to connect to
> something
> that vibrates is a bad idea. I have personal experience with this.
Yeah, but the rubbe
You can put a rated air hose from the compressor to your distribution
system, either with quick-release fittings or screwed on. Might cut
your flow a bit?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> ...That's what I did for one of the hoses on the Hercules generator. I
>> think I used copper plumbing fit
> ...That's what I did for one of the hoses on the Hercules generator. I
> think I used copper plumbing fittings, not brass...
>
I don't know about fittings but using copper tubing to connect to something
that vibrates is a bad idea. I have personal experience with this.
RLE
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've been thinking replacement this summer and if I
> do they'll be no smaller than 0ga. It might not help
> but it shouldn't hurt and if I need to do them
> anyway...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:58:30 -0800 (PST)
> From: LWB250 <[EMAIL PR
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 19:40:35 -0600 "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Car battery cables are made of a fine braid wire. Standard braid cables
> can stress crack at solder and crimp joints due to vibration.
Welding cables are extra-fine braid wire.
Craig
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Car battery cables are made of a fine braid wire. Standard braid cables
can stress crack at solder and crimp joints due to vibration.
Thanks, Tom
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From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: 12/23/07 7:27 PM
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:27:14 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been thinking replacement this summer and if I do they'll be no
> smaller than 0ga. It might not help but it shouldn't hurt and if I need
> to do them anyway...
Good line of thinking.
Craig
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
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When we would make up cables for our rental generators
we used the scraps to make battery cables for our
cars. We had the nice so
Commercial battery shops like Interstate, will make up any cable config you
specify. Also, the golf cart battery places typically use heavier cables
with the 6 volt batteries.
Jim Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles
98 ML 320, 152 K miles
In a message dated 12/23/2007 2:21:24
They were big heavy duty ones we used to make up
cables for the 8D battery banks we fabricated for the
gensets. The other ends were crimp style ring
terminals.
I just recall having to use a torch to solder them...
Dan
--- Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Drool. Where would four-ought batt
Drool. Where would four-ought battery terminals be found?
Luther
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 14:58:30 -0600, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When we would make up cables for our rental generators
> we used the scraps to make battery cables for our
> cars. We had the nice solder type battery termin
When we would make up cables for our rental generators
we used the scraps to make battery cables for our
cars. We had the nice solder type battery terminals,
too. Voltage drop? We don't need no stinkin' voltage
drop!
I can recall a VW I had that was retrofitted with a
set of these. Darn starte
VERY heavy. I'd make welding cables out of ought or double-ought, not
four-ought. This wire isn't light
Luther
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 23:46:07 -0600, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It seems than at Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:17:07 -0500, Mitch wrote:
>
>> How heavy is four-ought? If it's manag
That's about right for 4/0. Add 5 pounds to each end
of the cable for the camloc connectors, too, as they
are big and solid copper.
We used tons of this stuff in the generator business,
especially with rental units. Talk about lots of
money...
MacDan
--- Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wr
It seems than at Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:17:07 -0500, Mitch wrote:
> How heavy is four-ought? If it's manageable, I'd be tempted to
> make myself a new set of welding cables instead of selling it.
Like in pounds or kilograms?
Or as in current capacity?
Current capacity in a 60 deg C raceway is 19
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 19:17:07 -0500 Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Bill wrote:
> >
> > And buy something nice for one of your MB's.
>
> How heavy is four-ought? If it's manageable, I'd be tempted to make
> myself a new set of welding cables instead of selling it.
They just finish
Tom Hargrave wrote:
>
> Or do what a friend of mine did when the radio was stolen out of his
> Toyota Supra. Epoxy a few razor blades in staryegic locations. The next
> time he was broken into the thieves left his radio and a blood sample.
> There was no third time.
Sounds like thief #1 and thief
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Sent: 12/21/07 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
Not a bad idea there.
BillR
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Bill wrote:
>
> And buy something nice for one of your MB's.
How heavy is four-ought? If it's manageable, I'd be tempted to make
myself a new set of welding cables instead of selling it.
Mitch.
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:39 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
I've got about 50-60 feet of 0
We should thank them for chlorinating their gene pool.
BillR
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 8:49 AM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
It was last year or the year before in
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
I remember in the 70s, gasoline shortage, the fuel lines... There were some
kids who were stealing gas. The MOD was
Not a bad idea there.
BillR
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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:34 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
Timothy Robinson wrote:
>
> Well, not long ago we
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves/copper scavenging is not new!
In a message dated 12/20/2007 10:15:03 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Copper stealing probably takes a lot of work considering the profit
also. Risk of getting caught would seem
In a message dated 12/20/2007 10:15:03 A.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Copper stealing probably takes a lot of work considering the profit
also. Risk of getting caught would seem high also - although those on this
list seem to keep getting hit -
Back in 67, I
Hey didn't some incident like that in Paris suburbs "spark Muslim
outrage" a few months back, in addition to sparking a coupla Muslim yutes?
I don't mean that to be a political statement -- everybody got all up
about a coupla guys who were doing something in a power substation,
reportedly runni
Fmiser wrote:
>
> My local electric coop has reported that a number of people have
> been killed by messing with live, high-voltage lines and live
> sub-stations.
>
Hey, it's cheaper than shooting them. And you don't have to catch
them in the act, you only need to find the bodies and have them
r
> IIRC there was a large traffic jamming upgrade made to one of
> our usually clogged highways here in seattle. Took a few days
> to put down a few miles of copper stuff and buckle up the
> roadway. A few days latter some person decided to rent a
> digger machine and remove said copper, causing t
The good places will strip it for you for free. Competition and all...
--R
Luther wrote:
> I've got about 50-60 feet of that I pulled from a construction dumpster.
> I'm thinking that I should strip the insulation and take it to the local
> recycler for some 's.
>
> Luther, copper "t
I've got about 50-60 feet of that I pulled from a construction dumpster.
I'm thinking that I should strip the insulation and take it to the local
recycler for some 's.
Luther, copper "thief"?
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 12:31:56 -0600, Bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Had breakfast with my
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
> In Australia we did away with our 1 and 2 cent pieces many moons ago,
> the Government just one day said it's time to get rid of the small
> shrap
In Australia we did away with our 1 and 2 cent pieces many moons ago,
the Government just one day said it's time to get rid of the small
shrapnel and round up and down.
Although rounding up seemed to be the outcome.
Hendrik
Fmiser wrote:
>> Christopher McCann wrote:
>>
>>> Alternatives -
Kind of like a big Presto hotdog cooker?
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:49 AM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
It was
It was last year or the year before in NH they did just that. Thought rubber
gloves would protect them from the input to a substation.
Fifty gazillion volts and they were all done...
-Curt
Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:30:54 -0800
From: Redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ]
> Christopher McCann wrote:
> > Alternatives - eliminating the penny, plastic.
>
Mitch wrote:
> Once upon a time, we eliminated the half penny. At that time,
> the penny became the lowest denomination coin, and AFAIK
> nobody had a problem with it. The quarter is probably worth as
> much now as
watch out of windows overlooking the bus parking
lot. Not sure if they apprehended anyone but it all seemed very "Christian."
> From: Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:48:53 -0600
> To: Mercedes Discussion
A couple weeks ago a guy south of Houston popped a couple of sh**heads
who had just burgled his neighbors' home (they were gone), carrying the
loot, and coming into his yard. One had been deported already for drug
offenses and came back, the other was another multiply-convicted felon,
both fro
Timothy Robinson wrote:
>
> Well, not long ago we caught a guy helping himself to a friend's sound
> system in a parking lot. We tackled the guy and held him while calling the
> police (informing them that we were holding the guy). An hour and half and
> second call later...
Next time, when you
IIRC there was a large traffic jamming upgrade made to one of our
usually clogged highways here in seattle. Took a few days to put
down a few miles of copper stuff and buckle up the roadway. A few
days latter some person decided to rent a digger machine and remove
said copper, causing the
ist
> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:42:53 -0500
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
>
> Timothy Robinson wrote:
>>
>> In years past I've actually "camped out" at a site just hoping to catch
>> someone. If I did they
I read an article about a fellow who was looking to scrounge up all
the spare pennies out there for making a profit. One of those coin
gobbling machine companies was selling him the pennies. He would
sort out those older than 1981, which are heavy copper, then packed
the newer ones for sh
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
>
> Most don't understand the function of our police force. Their job is to
> follow up after the crime, not prevent the crime.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
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Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:30:39 -0500
> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'"
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
>
> The other problem with being around when they are is that the police, at
> least, think these guys are high on dope when they do it. If you are there
&g
16:25:53 -0600
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
>
> A year or so ago here in the Houston area a guy traded a coupla thieves
> a small bit of lead for the copper they were trying to take from his AC
> unit, and one ended up owning a smal
ember 19, 2007 7:31 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
The other problem with being around when they are is that the police, at
least, think these guys are high on dope when they do it. If you are there
it could be dangerous. Call the police - they
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On Behalf Of Allan Streib
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 8:12 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
Well you'd think when a couple of crackheads show up at the scrap
yard with a brand new comm
and
be long gone...
BillR
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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:43 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
Timothy Robinson wrote:
>
> In years past I'
Possibly, but I think they have gone way beyond recreational use.
BillR
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Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:11 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] copper thieves
"My guess is tha
Well you'd think when a couple of crackheads show up at the scrap
yard with a brand new commercial A/C unit that they tell them to get
lost and call the cops.
On Dec 19, 2007, at 6:59 PM, Zach wrote:
>
> They just busted a recycle yard in Seattle not too long ago... Some
> undercover-police-
Pretty much increases and decreases with the price of copper.
Christopher McCann wrote:
> We had 3 a/c units hit at work a few months back. Just yesterday, a bishop in
> Argentina that works with us (we publish Catholic books) let us know that
> there is no point in calling as "they" have stolen
They just busted a recycle yard in Seattle not too long ago... Some
undercover-police-types were selling material to the yard that was
obviously not legit (street signs, etc) and then they busted them.
Basically the same as a pawnshop that buys obviously stolen goods.
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Lock up the guys/recyclers buying the copper from the thieves for a long
time and make them pay restitution to the victims.
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Christopher McCann wrote:
> Alternatives - eliminating the penny, plastic.
Once upon a time, we eliminated the half penny. At that time, the penny
became the lowest denomination coin, and AFAIK nobody had a problem with it.
The quarter is probably worth as much now as the penny was then. I think
There is a major league shopping mall on the north
side of Milwaukee that was vacant for about a year, as
all of the anchor stores had pulled out and moved to
the 'burbs - thieves went so far as to rent a crane
and remove all the AC units off the roof and haul them
away on flatbed tractor trailers
US Pennies have not been made out of copper since 1982 when the value of the
copper exceeed 1 cent. Since then, they are made from zinc coated with copper.
But this year, the value of the zinc exceeded one cent and now Congress is
looking into alternatives. People are melting down large quantiti
A year or so ago here in the Houston area a guy traded a coupla thieves
a small bit of lead for the copper they were trying to take from his AC
unit, and one ended up owning a small plot of ground. Occupational hazard.
--R
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Timothy Robinson wrote:
>
> In years past I've actually "camped out" at a site just hoping to catch
> someone. If I did they'd probably wish that I'd call the police to rescue
> them.
I own a vacant lot about 3 miles from where I currently live. I'd like to
build a nice big workshop/office there,
st I've actually "camped out" at a site just hoping to catch
someone. If I did they'd probably wish that I'd call the police to rescue
them.
> From: "Bill " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 13:31:56 -05
"My guess is that the thieves made @$600 on the scrap copper for all
the damage they caused."
The proceeds no doubt used to finance that "victimless crime" of
recreational drug use.
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1982 300TD
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One wonders at point thieves will break into cash registers in order to
steal the copper PENNIES and leave behind the worthless paper money (US$$).
On Dec 19, 2007 1:39 PM, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We had 3 a/c units hit at work a few months back. Just yesterday, a bishop
>
We had 3 a/c units hit at work a few months back. Just yesterday, a bishop in
Argentina that works with us (we publish Catholic books) let us know that there
is no point in calling as "they" have stolen the phone lines AGAIN - obviously
for the copper. That was in Argentina. So, it seems to be a
Had breakfast with my pastor last week; thought he looked a bit like someone
who had a bad day or so. Turns out thieves destroyed 6 AC units from the
church the morning before - including three we just had replaced for about
$15k. $33k damage this time [$5k deductable]. From talking to the poli
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